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    Recently at my club a new girl has started. From Day 1 she was able to outsell many other girls in terms of VIP rooms. Everynight she does at least 2. Now most girls at my club including me have already understood that the VIP at my club screws the dancers. For 1/2 hr we only get $75 if the guy pays cash and $50 if he pays by credit; $150 for the hour. Now if I do straight laps for 4 songs that's $80. Anyway some of my customers have been telling me that she strokes their crotches when she joins them at the bar. Is this a technique that many girls use? I asked another dancer I know and she pretty much told me what's wrong with that.. Am I alone here or is that pushy the boundaries? I mean I'll touch a guys leg or arm or face but not the crotch..

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    Default Re: Touching customers to get dances

    I worked at one club where all the girls grabbed the guys just as soon as they sat down. And then all those girls ended up taking the guy to VIP for a hand job or head. If you grab a guy they are going to think you're up for anything. My advice is don't do it, touch their arms and legs just as you are.

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    I know some girls use that tactic, and they're usually the ones who offer more 'service' in the vip. Like a silent signal that she'll go that extra mile so to speak. I wouldn't suggest doing that unless you're planning to go further in private.

    Why does anyone even bother to sell vip at your club? $50-75 for half hour???? That's fekkin ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    Why does anyone even bother to sell vip at your club? $50-75 for half hour???? That's fekkin ridiculous!
    Yeah, no shit, aren't dancers supposed to get MORE money from VIP rooms than doing regular dances? That doesn't make any sense. If dances are $20, even if all songs are 5 minutes long (which most aren't-most are shorter), you could make $80 in 20 minutes from doing dances, which is more than you would make doing a VIP room. I don't get it.

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    I know at the club I worked at, they are stupid assholes and charge the customer 125$ for the champagne room for a half an hour, then the girl gets 75$ of that. What the FUCK, ya know!?? Ld's at that club are 30$ a song, so 2 songs you already basically have what you would have made in the room. Fuck the vip room there!

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    Default Re: Touching customers to get dances

    Ebony, I would have to strongly agree with the other dancers in regards to what you do and don't touch on a potential customer (patron/punter). Keep it light and flirtatious. Touching or stroking their genitals usually indicates that you are more "high mileage" and/or provide services in relation to that body part.

    Also.. do not worry about VIP if you can make more dollars doing normal dances. Doing VIP only works if it is to the dancer's (monetary) advantage.


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    Default Re: Touching customers to get dances

    Got a girl at my club who is always grabbing guys in the crotch. She gets alot of dances. As for me, I ain't touching it when we're in the back so I ain't gonna touch it on the floor.

    You almost feel sorry for the girl going the extra mile for less money in VIP. Who thought of that system?

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    I only know one girl who grabs guy's crotches, but she is also the girl who gives out her phone number to any guy she wants to go home with. Soooo.....I'm sure you can catch my drift here. My opinion, keep touching to arms, legs, not crotch. But then again this is just my opinion. As far as VIP's where I work the club charges 250 for an hour, but the dancer only gets 125. Club gets fifty percent of all dances. So a Half our dance at 150 only earns the dancer 75. Kinda crappy, but I suppose that's why I'm gonna be heading to another club. Okay, enough of my rant. **sorry**

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    Default Re: Touching customers to get dances

    Awww, and from the thread title I thought this was going to be about "touching our hearts," wooing us, and whisking us away to the VIP. That'd work well too.
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    Through all of the times I have danced, I would try little experiments. For a period of time I would play innocent and never touch anyone and act very shy and new to the whole dance thing vs. the experienced "nasty" dancer. And guess what, and quote my words.... "If you give him everything he wants right at the front, then why should he pay for more???" If you play the game right and please him a little at a time you keep his interest up.

    Time after time, from 6 years experience, my most successful times were when I kept class to myself. Even when I had a customer, claiming, "well she (the other dancer) did this and she did that," when I didn't I made more. Because men are like hunters, they want the chase and catch.

    Just think, how exciting would the hunt be if the prey laid down and played dead???!!! Then, it's not "hunting", it's "gathering."

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    Well Stated aprilflowers!

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    Default Re: Touching customers to get dances

    If only that were always true! Just last night a dancer "stole" a regular from another dancer.... Well the other dancer was furious and all I could think of was, if he's not gettingon from you, she must be doing even more for him than you do... So I guess the touchers and the gropers can be outgroped by another dancer sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprilflowers
    Just think, how exciting would the hunt be if the prey laid down and played dead???!!!
    Interesting analogy, because hunting preserves cater to guys who want to hunt on privately stocked land in a "can't miss" environment.

    On the larger question, I always thought grabbing just implied more grabbing in VIP. I don't understand why dancers think it's better to grind the top of their heads on pants. That doesn't look or feel very good.
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    LOL I gotta agree with ya there sporty. I never understood the head grinding thing either. Can't see how it's sexy or desirable during a LD

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    Default Re: Touching customers to get dances

    Odd that these high dollar clubs with $30 lap dances can't seem to afford cameras in the VIP
    area... even the $10 lap dance clubs have those. If there's suspicion that a dancer is grabbing
    a customer inappropriately... simply ask management to look at the tape. That should level
    the playing field real fast. Duh. IMHO, any dancer who routinely tries to avoid the cameras
    is suspect. That's why I deliberately choose the most viewable VIP areas possible and keep
    it clean. If another girl has to play dirty or break the rules/law with extras to make more
    money than the rest then she's not worth her salt as a professional dancer. If managment
    doesn't care what goes on, then quit and let the authorities know about it. When the
    club gets raided or shut down who will be similing then?

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    Well here is an update!! That dancer was eventually fired. Countless numbers of the loyal customers to the club complained to the owners about what she was doing (strocking their privates)and also what she was offering to them in the VIP. Our VIP has cameras but hardly anyone watched the monitors while a dancer was in there. Anyway my club is a pretty mild to medium contact club. Most dancers grind and allow guys to touch their legs and butt occasionally. This girl was way way over board. Just this week customers have been asking about her, and when I would give them a LD they would say well so and so let me finger her etc. About 2 customers told me they are not getting dances from anyone else and that she has spoiled them they only want her. CRAZY!! But she got what she deserved she is no longer with the club thankfully.

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    Ebony, I'm glad she was fired. Fingering?!?!?!?!!?!? WRONG!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2

    On the larger question, I always thought grabbing just implied more grabbing in VIP. I don't understand why dancers think it's better to grind the top of their heads on pants. That doesn't look or feel very good.
    I'll do it once in a while, but lightly and playfully and tell the guys it's "faux-llatio". Get it? Like fellatio, but faux, as in fake? They seem to think it's cute, but then I don't do that with all guys because I'll do that if someone is non-grabby and not there expecting extras.

    Aside from that, my hands stay away from the crotch.

    Glad to hear this girl got fired, though the sad thing is I suspect one of her ilk will come to replace her sooner rather than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinaDaisy
    I'll do it once in a while, but lightly and playfully and tell the guys it's "faux-llatio". Get it? Like fellatio, but faux, as in fake? They seem to think it's cute, but then I don't do that with all guys because I'll do that if someone is non-grabby and not there expecting extras.
    Yeah, I agree, that is cute.

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