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This is very sad.





http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/4051214/detail.html
This is very sad.
One of woman's cardinal rule: Body parts can be fake,everything else has to be real.
一个女人的枢机规则:肢体可以伪造,一切必须真实.
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i don't think it's sad. it's what they wanted. they wished to die with dignity, and i support that.
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I see your point Chris,and I agree.The sadness is the loss of life.
One of woman's cardinal rule: Body parts can be fake,everything else has to be real.
一个女人的枢机规则:肢体可以伪造,一切必须真实.
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Now THAT is romantic! When Dea gets old and feeble I wouldn't mind a double suicide, we love together, live together and die together....pure romance
I guess thats what you call true love.
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Nah....it's not sad. They handled what they needed to...together.
"The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind."
-Humphrey Bogart
"Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink."
-Lady Astor to Winston Churchill
"Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it."
-His reply
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."
-David Daye
It's sweet, sort of...Hmm.
--Georg Christoph Litchenberg
I agree with the majority. I don't find it saddening at all. They made the choice, were probably emotionally and physically exhausted from dealing with their ailments, and wanted to make sure that when they did go, they went together.





ummmmmmm what about the families they left behind??
How is this impacting them?
Do they feel cheated out of years that could have been spent together??
Yes the romeo and juliet they did sounds romantic,but i dont think the family thinks so,i know i wouldnt.




I donno, no matter how bad it gets, I just don't condone suicide. There is always hope.
It isn't about hope or no hope. It's a life decision. You only need "hope" when you have a need to continue living. I would want my parents to tell me before hand so that I could say good-bye. And I would discuss it. If it was a sound decision, then I would support them. It's their lives....and it's their deaths.
"The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind."
-Humphrey Bogart
"Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink."
-Lady Astor to Winston Churchill
"Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it."
-His reply
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."
-David Daye





A classic double suicide, in a silver Mercedes as I recall. He was healthy; she had terminal cancer.
They had failing health. They knew what their quality of life was. For some people, the essence of life is more important than the quality of it - for others, if there's no quality of life, it's not worth living. They were obviously of sound minds and made their conscious choice of their free will.
A few years ago, there was a double suicide of two teenage girls driving high speed deliberately straight into a mountain wall. No health issues - just young, depressed, and confused. Now, that was sad.


Multiple sclerosis, diabetes, and heart disease are not certainly fatal ailments. People live many years with these diseases and it doesn't cause physical pain nearly as much as some diseases do.
To be honest (and I hope I don't sound cruel so please don't be mad at me), I think it's messed up that people destroy their lives because they think their life is "bad". People living before 100 years ago, and people now in Asia, Africa, and South America have much harder lives and go through a lot more crap than practically anyone here does. Their lives are a lot harder than any of ours (like the Tsunami victims) and they don't kill themselves. If people wanted to kill themselves because life was hard, none of us would be here because most of our ancestors had very harsh, short lives.
I think Euthanasia when there is no hope that someone will certainly die and they are in immense pain. Diabetes doesn't really cut it.
Last edited by Chani_Fremen; 01-08-2005 at 09:29 PM.
~*~ I must not fear. ~*~Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.I will face my fear.I will permit it to pass over me and through me.And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.~*~ Only I will remain. ~*~
That's partly true, Chani. But, I can speak from personal experience when I say that Multiple Sclerosis is a very vile and merciless disease. My Mother has lived with MS since she was 16 years old. She is now 54, bedridden, paralyzed from the waist down, legally blind, and suffers from Dementia. This was ALL brought on by the disease. MS destroys nerve after nerve, until there is nothing left. My Mother has been bedridden now for the past 19 years. She has her moments where she is severely depressed. She knows she will never walk again, she will never get out of bed without the aid of her hoyer-lift, and her health aide, and even then, she is only allowed to sit in her chair for 1 hour a day, because she also has bedsores on her back and buttocks.Originally Posted by Chani_Fremen
She attempted to take her own life a few years back by heavily overdosing on her many medications. Luckily, they caught her in time.
Believe it or not, she had even talked about contacting Dr. Kevorkian, after she heard that he had assisted another MS patient in a suicide.
I can't speak for anything about Diabetes or Heart Disease. But, I do know about MS, and what it does to a person. That man was probably very very miserable. There is a LOT of pain that accompanies MS, both physically and mentally.
While the disease itself isn't fatal, the side-things are. Because my Mother has limited movement, she is susceptible to heart attacks, blood clots, and gangrene from her bedsores, and much, much more. Those would most certainly end her life in no time.
In short though, I can fully understand the mentality of the MS victim. I've been around it all my life, and watched how it slowly deteriorates its victim. I watched my Mother go from fully walking, to "furniture walking", to bedridden in a matter of months. That man was miserable. MS is incurable, and if the victim is lucky, they will be able to function and get around by hanging onto anything that will support them, rather than spend the rest of their life in bed, like my Mother.
They went out on their own terms. While I would rather people didn't kill themselves, i've always thought it was an individual thing and who am to judge.
Wow. That takes nuts.
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In there words " they were tired of living " . It was there choice they implimented a plan and followed through it had to be tough !
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