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    Default Should Swingers be banned from marriage?

    If it's the "right" "correct" moral" thing to do to ban gay marriage what about swingers ?

    It's adultry is illegal. it's wrong in the eyes of most churches. The more sex partners the higher risk of std. so why not swingers.

    should swingers be excluded from state and federal bennies and protections that marriage offers? What about some of the other rights gays get denied like jobs in at will states. right to see their partner in the hospital.

    let the discussions begin

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    Default Re: Should Swingers be banned from marriage?

    The problem here is that you're comparing a lifestyle (swinging) to a relationship (gay marriage/civil union, or polygamy).

    If a gay couple or say, a man who wants to marry four women at once went to apply for a marriage license, there's no way that the state could not know that they would be dealing with something non-traditional.

    It would be a lot harder for the state to find out whether a heterosexual couple applying for same license were swingers or not, at least short of sending a snoop out to follow them around 24/7.

    Then again, maybe your question was rhetorical.
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    Default Re: Should Swingers be banned from marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ/Mandi
    If it's the "right" "correct" moral" thing to do to ban gay marriage what about swingers ?

    It's adultry is illegal. it's wrong in the eyes of most churches. The more sex partners the higher risk of std. so why not swingers.

    should swingers be excluded from state and federal bennies and protections that marriage offers? What about some of the other rights gays get denied like jobs in at will states. right to see their partner in the hospital.

    let the discussions begin
    Do you know anything about the lifestyle????
    Just from your post it doesnt sound like it to me.
    Im sure you would reconsider using this lifestyle as an example for anything if you knew.
    Try going to a NASCA website and see what you will find.

    Talk about a world that discriminates!!!

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    Default Re: Should Swingers be banned from marriage?

    I believe the point was missed -- It is not that swingers should actually be banned from marriage but rather that many if not most of the reasons people use to say that homosexuals should not have the right to marry can be said about swingers too.

    The church says it is not moral and against God.

    It is outside the norm of acceptable behavior in the US social struture

    Sex is the primary mode of transmission of std's like hiv-- swingers have sex with people outside a monogomous situation an sometimes (if not often) with people they don't know well or even at all. Condoms do break and there is a small risk hiv with oral, most people do not use condoms for oral.

    Before anyone says it, yes I have known swingers, been to swinger parties and clubs (hey I like to watch too and have bartended in a swingers bar so yes--- I am familar with "the lifestyle" - it isnt for me, but they are adults so it's all good ) but any....... what I want getting at is that monogomy with a std free person is the safest beyond abstinance. So the arguemnt of increased hiv risk can be applied to swingers .

    What I and many others question is why just gays but not for example, swingers ?Neither need to be banned from marriage, but one and not the other isn't logical.

    It doesn't just apply to swingers either- many other groups of people could easily have these same arguements applied to them as people who say gays shouldnt get to marry use to explain their case....... that's the REAL point here.
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    Default Re: Should Swingers be banned from marriage?

    STDs have been around since that first very lonely shepherd decided to 'experiment.'

    What if swingers used condoms (as I presume almost all do)? Can they stay married then? What about liars, can they marry? And people who did not honor their parents? Or blasphemed using the name "God"?

    Religion or not, the social and biological purpose of marriage is to raise a family with some stability. The marriage concept is to lawfully support the social and biological purpose of raising a family with social and financial privileges. Remember, raising a family is ENORMOUSLY expensive, not to mention risky. But it has enormous social benefits. (Who will support you when you are too old to work?) Whether or not a couple chooses or can even choose to have a family at any particular time, those privileges should be available to them.

    Women are the administrators of that concept by their disposition. If women didn't have those natural barriers to protect the family concept, we could all fuck anyone we could convince to do it. Now, wouldn't that be fun? See, I'm not talking about religion.

    However, committed people living together (in sin or married) should entitle them to some reduced, but significant, set of social and financial privileges, in return for some social responsibility. I think we can afford that as a modern society, though it isn't a biological imperative.

    (I do take a very long-term view of very important questions, even if I have no family.)
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Default Re: Should Swingers be banned from marriage?

    There are swinger clubs in which part of membership is HIV and STD testing... not all do this only a couple "clubs" that I've heard of.

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