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    i started off dancing in nz, where my club had its own dollars printed up which guys tipped with on stage, so used to this system, when i moved to australia, my club manager told me they had no tipping money, and tips on stage are not expected at all.

    at the time i was quite pissed off,it sounded stupid.he told me how slutty and desperate it lookes begging for a dollar.

    how TRUE this is.

    im back in nz, andf went to work in my old club thursday night. i made about $8 in stage tips ( as opposed to the $100 or so the other husslers made) how sad it looks when chicks go up to customers stretching out their garters asking for a dollar tip. geez go beg on the streets girls. you spent most of your stage time asking for tips, not putting on a show, and you expect to get paid for this?!


    i understand fully now, why some clubs choose not to have dollar bills printed. if the customer wants to tip, he can tip a big one, or not at all.

    sounds greedy, but dollar tips looks seedy

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    Actually, at the SF clubs I work at, the tip rail is exactly what the name implies.. a rail for TIPPING. Personally I find it offensive if a guy sits at that rail and doesn't even give a damn dollar, especially if I'm working at a nude club. Many of the clubs I work at don't receive an hourly paycheck so hell yes I expect to be tipped if I'm standing there stark naked. If a guy wants to sit AWAY from the tip rail, say a few rows back, and gawk without tipping, that's his choice. But if he's up there in my face staring, sitting in the front row, sure I'll nudge my garter towards his nose for a little tip

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    fair enough i guess, maybe its different in the states too, as tipping in all industries is common.

    in the nz club with stage tipping, the stage is in the middle of the room, and there is nowhere else for customers to sit except around it. also, the girls get off stage and go up to the guys ASKING for tips regardless of if they are watching the stage or not!

    i got tips from guys who held out the tips for me, and made eye contact etc, but most girls there went up to every single guys sitting by the stage and expected a tip from them all, without even dancing for a song.

    dunno, i see the cheapness in it now

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    Default Re: stage tipping vs NO tips

    At my club we are expected to do a tip walk. I agree, it is tacky, and a lot of guys hate it. But then again, if they would get up and tip, we wouldn't have to do one.

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    This is exactly what it's like at my club in Sydney - they're called Dancer Dollars and they're actually $2 bills now. That's what they tip, because you can bet they won't tip anything if they had to tip real money - you may get a $10 or $20 tip once in a while, but most of them will just sit there. And since we keep our bottoms on in the main podiums, they're basically tipping for more attention, not to see our pink bits. And guess what - they're not interchangeable with the other two clubs the owner owns!! So people who come from one place to go to another place when it closes can't use any excess they had from the other place.

    Unfortunately the only other way to make money is to try and hustle to sell shows, which are almost $80 for 15 mins. In Sydney there's no lapdances or touching either, so I can see the value in the stage tipping. Australia using coins for its $1 and $2 denominations has led to this situation...you can't exactly tip someone with a coin...

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    wow i never knew it was like that in sydney! i remember pure platnium had tipping dollars actually....

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    In Dc where I worked, we didn't have any lap dances or other way to make moeny except on stage... We also did the tip walk, although I never asked for a tip, but thanked the guys that had tipped me and basically said screw you to those who hadn't. A lot of the time custoemrs will hold out their dollars when I walked by to thank the guys that made it the stage..
    I made money off of the guys I sat down with for a while which was nice, but it wasn't a very high dollar club and the effort of trying to get tips, to make up for no lap dances was too much for me.
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    Yep, Pure Plat, Dancers, and Mens Gallery in Sydney. Not sure what it's like elsewhere in Australia as I've never been, but planning to check out Melbourne later this month. Yay!

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    My story.

    I think it was Monday night.. or Sunday... I don't quite remember. A fellow dancer and myself were having a conversation. I remember her bringing up a part of a conversation she had with a patron that night. The patron said something like "That girl crawling around on the stage asking for tips makes her look so cheap". I remember this dancer responding to the patron something like "What do you think she is doing? She's working.".

    All I remember is that it occured to me that the patron was most likely referring to me. My stage set is 4 songs long (sometimes 5). I dance and give a performance for the first two songs. By the third song since I'm topless... I do crawl around on all fours in a sexy manner and hustle all the people seated in the front row stage side seating for $5 or $10 tips. I crawl as that is the only way to be more on their level with my stage. Then when they tip.. I give them some attention (no touching me or me touching them)... for $5 I don't do much... $10 I will give them more (usually take off my GString).

    Yes... it is a rule/guideline as such that by the last song the dancer has to be full nude on the stage so the patrons can easily just over-look me and hope that the next dancer will be gullible enough to be full nude for free (usually the newer dancers - I'm over giving the free perve now that I've worked there for so long).

    I do not care that it makes me look cheap. My whole philosophy is that I performed for you for free for the first two songs and I always strive to make that performance decent.... now where's my money! Nah... my philosophy is that if I do not ask.. I will never get it (tips in this case).

    Yes there are dancers at my club who do gain tips without asking/hustling those stage side. They are the naturally beautiful dancers (generally). Yet I do find that it greatly enhances my potential to make SOMETHING (whereas we are expected to make nothing) if I do ask.

    Just wanted to add: If I find that I don't get any tips, then I will mainly dance near the back of the stage and/or behind the waterfall feature (see my club's website to see what I'm talking about) and only take my GString off in the last minute... and not show them a damn thing. I will cover the pubic area of my pussy. I really am over the free perve aspect of the stage shows at my club. (The dancers who have been there as long as me or nearly as long are starting to do the same.)
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    getting bigger money tips is cool,and im all for it, dont get me wrong, if a dancer is dancing her heart out on stage she deserves a $10 from a greatful customer

    im more reffering to those ( esp in nz,ive noticed) where tipping dollars are used,and dancers grovvel for one measly buck. lol you have to see some of the girls over here, yesterday i checked out showgirls in auckland, where dancers were full on grinding and open leg work on customers for a whole dollar!!!! OMFG! my bf was most unimpressed,ad it does look nasty if done the wrong way.

    i also went to the white house later that night, to see dancers recieving one dollar tips in a more graceful manner, cheeky,and not expecting, NO skankyness for the undeserving

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    $5 or $10.... I don't grovel. I will ask.. if they don't pay.. I move on. I've had patrons play the "give me something then I'll give you the money" crap on me.... I don't play that game. I remind them that they are in a strip club and that they have to pay to play - money first then I show them what they get for it. Usually they are cheap-asses anyway so I just move on...

    Just do what is within your own comfort zone.

    I don't "need" their tips... I ask for the tips as I feel I am entitled to them (I entertain and perform)... however I can do just fine if I don't receive any tips on stage. I guess that's the difference between the two clubs you saw: one where the dancers must rely on stage tips so they'll do more for less money compared to the other club where they probably earn decent money via private dances so they just accept the tips basically and don't put out as much.


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    I actually really enjoy tipping, as it provides me (and other customers) with a way to show appreciation for a good dance or dancer. I've been to clubs in Montreal where there is generally no stage tipping, and I often feel bad for the dancers who are doing a great job on stage, but there is no obvious recognition whatsoever, because no one tips. At least in a tipping club, I can make sure to let the dancer know she is appreciated with my money. Also, by the amount I tip, I can let a dancer know whether I might be interested in a LD later on. So, IMHO, tipping plays a desired role. And I definitely do not think asking for tips makes a stripper look cheap--I mean let's be honest, the point is to make money, right?
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    You know it's funny to me how much tipping varies from place to place, when I danced in RI I made a lot of money on stage because customers sat right at it and there was a tip rail. Here in FL, most of the clubs have no seating at the stage what so ever and you only get tipped when a customer likes you and walks up tp tip you.
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    Actually I feel the stage needs more emphasis in big city clubs. Clubs traditionally were called Go Go's and we were called Go Go dancers.

    A lot of income is lost in clubs that don't emphasize the stage as well as dances. Las Vegas is a good example. Active stages with a pushy DJ can get the money flowing in the clubs and good stage tips can cover our house fees and tip outs especially when the crowd is young and slow to buy dances.

    It is very important that strip clubs are seen as a party environment with a jivey DJ, drink specials and a place where a guy or group of guys can just "kick it" for an hour or so and "feel obligated" to spend "some" money on dancers while there.

    In a 6 night booking in small town clubs my stage tips range from $300-$700 over the 6 nights.

    Especially with the huge influx of young customers nowadays if a DJ PUSHES the tip rail and tipping throughout the night, the stage can be the difference in making money off of a crowd who isn't into dances or no money at all. it forces most of the customers to spend money on the dancers.

    It also can make being at the club fun and keep the guys minds off of hitting us up for sex.

    An active stage creates momentum in the club if the DJ is lively, and good momentum can hype the guys up to buy dances.

    The fun factor is lost in many clubs nowadays in lieu of owners and dancers wanting the big money and customers are less likely to spend big money now because the club environment has gotten too serious.

    For steady dance income an active stage and jivey DJ who helps the girls make money can actually make selling dances easier.

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    A lot depends on whether or not you're obliged to do a tip-dance, too. In the last couple of places I've worked, you're not going to make more than $20 off stage unless guys tip more than $1 because it simply isn't possible to do a 5 second dance for all of the stage-side customers every song. Thus, guys don't tip every song while stage-side. And hey, yes, I'd rather get $1 from each guy rather than none, but $3 would be nicer.

    In this way, I rather like tip-walks better, they let me focus on putting on a show rather being busy collecting tips, and I can take as long to talk to each customer as I want without worrying interrupting another dancer's set.
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    I zoomed thru alot of these responses, but here in Wi, quite a few clubs rely on stage tips. I'll put on a hell of a show for a flock of guys around me, and then right down the line... zip zip zip... $$$$!!! Fork it over! I'm naked , I danced , no more fuckin' around, let's go go go! Sorry, I'm jaded and just plain old BLECHH! right now.
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    but isnt being on stage ment to be a time of dancing your ass off giving the patrons a reason to book you later for a show?? ive noticed here most girls spent 10 mins of a 15 min set walking around off the stage ( so the stage is bare ) expecting tips.

    hello?? if you dont perform, why the hell should someone tip you??!!

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    yeah I work in DC on breaks and there's no lap dancing allowed, only stage. Some customers don't go tip you when you're on stage. Sometimes they don't go to the stage because they're in a conversation at their table, they're too late after another customer, or they're being lazy and they'll tip me when I go to their table instead of coming to the stage. I never would ask for a tip though, be it a dollar or a thousand dollars, it doesn't sound right. Even pizza guys don't ask for dollar tips. That's like a friend saying "where's my birthday present" or "can you throw me a baby shower", annoying. I always treat tips like an unexpected gift instead of a standard thing.

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