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    Is SS confined to the borders of the SC?

    So I get off work tonight and call Ms. J while on my way home. I get her voicemail on her new cell phone and leave a message. Two minutes later my cell phone rings. It's her calling from home.

    "I'm so glad you called. I was just sitting here thinking about you, hoping you would call" she said.

    So was that some quality SS or do you believe it to have been genuine?

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    Default Re: Is SS confined to the borders of the SC?

    Whenever I've heard SS like that, I just let it roll on by.
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    Sounds like OTCSS to me. But, the goal is the same-to make you feel special. As long as you recognize it you can enjoy the moment for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneywise
    "I'm so glad you called. I was just sitting here thinking about you, hoping you would call" she said.

    So was that some quality SS or do you believe it to have been genuine?
    Quality SS. She's using you to get to Frazier. But hey, life could be worse.

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    Might be genuine, might be Stripper Shit.

    The real question is: why should you care enough to agonize over it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath

    The real question is: why should you care enough to agonize over it?
    I'm not agonizing at all. This is what I do. I post silly questions every so often that I know the answer to but also care to know what my fellow SCJs think as well.

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    OK, seriously -- and please don't think I'm trying to sound critical or censurious or anything, as I clearly have no right to -- one problem I always have with questions like this on message boards is that none of us knows the girl, none of us has been party to each and every conversation you've ever had with her (even if you've posted about them!), and none of us was a party to the conversation you're asking about.

    So the only answer you can expect is everybody repeating how strippers are not to be trusted, it's ALL Stripper Shit, etc. Which is probably right as a matter of the law of averages, but isn't very helpful since it's completely abstract. (On some boards, there would also be a minority intoning that anything is possible, no guts no glory, etc. Which is equally useless, for the same reason.)

    But I'd stick by my answer anyway. Are you planning on making this woman the only woman in your life? Do you have deep feelings for her, going beyond that you like her and have a good time with her? In what way does it matter whether she really thinks about you or if it's Stripper Shit? Isn't the only really important thing that she returns your calls and makes time to see you? (Except for the possibility -- which you must be too savvy to have to worry about -- that once you begin thinking she "really cares," you become vulnerable to being played in the event you're wrong. But that's really a concern for amateurs.)

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    I've been on the phone with her for 20 minutes and my feelings haven't changed one bit. One goal. One prize.

    I keep my eye on the prize bro.

    I'm good listener..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath
    OK, seriously -- and please don't think I'm trying to sound critical or censurious or anything, as I clearly have no right to -- one problem I always have with questions like this on message boards is that none of us knows the girl, none of us has been party to each and every conversation you've ever had with her (even if you've posted about them!), and none of us was a party to the conversation you're asking about.
    I PM a select group of people that know much more about me than anything I post on this board. Therefore, when you say "none of us know the girl" you don't speak for everyone. Knowing is often simply obtaining an idea based upon information only. Isn't that what we do everyday on the internet? Who really knows any of the stories told on this website are true at all? It's more about trust. I trust a few people I met here. Those individuals have a much clearer picture of things than anyone else. Perhaps I could have PM'd the question to them. That would have taken all the fun away though. You know? A message board is just as much about fun as it is about long drawn our responses aimed at making a serious conversation out of something that's really not serious at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneywise

    So was that some quality SS or do you believe it to have been genuine?

    MW
    LOL MW Youre a hoot

    Its always fun to see how close quality SS infringes on the genuine article. Frankly, considering how nicely things have been going with Miss D lately, Im not sure I know the difference anymore

    Yoda mentioned OTCSS, alluding that stripper shit of that nature deserves its own catagory. I think he makes a good point. Maybe Im wrong but a dancer saying in a club "Oh we could have sooo much fun in VIP" versus a dancer calling you from her cell saying "I was just thinking about you and wondered if you wanted to have lunch or something" seem worlds apart to me. In the end, money may wind up exchanging hands in either case but I prefer the more personalized approach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath
    So the only answer you can expect is everybody repeating how strippers are not to be trusted, it's ALL Stripper Shit
    LOL, that about covers it, at least from my experiences, I am a bit of a cynic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Head
    LOL, that about covers it, at least from my experiences, I am a bit of a cynic though.
    RH, its hard not to be but I try

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath
    Are you planning on making this woman the only woman in your life? Do you have deep feelings for her, going beyond that you like her and have a good time with her? In what way does it matter whether she really thinks about you or if it's StripperShit?
    generally speaking, i don't think it's so much about customer's feelings for stripper. it's probably more about his ambivalence about the stripper's true feelings. it's pretty common reaction, IMO. i think lilith partly summed it up perfectly:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith
    The club is a quasi-social setting and making it clear that you're only interested in one shallow aspect of a person is, paradoxically and yet inherently, offensive.
    incidentially, this cuts both ways and it applies inside as well as outside the sc. it's also not the only arena where this occurs between customers and sex workers, but to illustrate an example. usually, guys tend to be turned off (sometimes vehemently) when they are hustled hard by strippers. so, a stripper has to stroke, polish, soothe, and massage the customer's ego in order to get the money. OTOH, the guy knows she feeding him SS, but at the same time he wants to believe she's really "into him". in short, the customer is looking for certainty in a place where certainty is hard to come by. on a side note, it's no wonder most regulars are high-maintenance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rath
    Isn't the only really important thing that she returns your calls and makes time to see you?
    in some cases, no, it's not enough. IMO, for some people, meeting strippers inside or outside of a sc is like the old joke about the guy who complains about not feeling loved after leaving a whorehouse. it's not enough that the stripper is willing to meet a customer outside the club and/or fuck his brains out. she also has to make him believe and feel that she's genuinely interested in him beyond money. it's not enough that she seems to "like" him well enough to go out with him or fuck him, but there has too appear to be some deeper emotional connection as well, not so much on his part, but on her part.
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    I'm glad my little question stirred up some deep discussion.

    IMO OTCSS is defintely on a totally different level than your average run of the mill SS.

    So during the call this morning we talked about favorite positions, protection, pulling out(cancelled out by protection..duh), and endurance. I'm not sure why but I am much more comfortable talking openly about the art of making whoopie than she is. She often became embarassed but did answer my questions and appeared genuinely interested in consummating our little relationship very soon. Funny thing.. she brought it all up but became embarassed when realizing I had no problem with talking openly about what I like/dislike. Hey, there's no room for bashfullness in SCing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    it's not enough that the stripper is willing to meet a customer outside the club and/or fuck his brains out. she also has to make him believe and feel that she's genuinely interested in him beyond money. it's not enough that she seems to "like" him well enough to go out with him or fuck him, but there has too appear to be some deeper emotional connection as well, not so much on his part, but on her part.
    Mr P, sometimes your insights bring tears to my eyes.
    Or at least close enough so that I can think about what might really work.

    Version 1: It's not enough that the dancer is willing to meet a customer outside the club and be sexually intimate. She also has to make him believe and feel that she's genuinely interested in him beyond money. It's not enough that she seems to "like" him well enough to go out and play with him, but there has to appear to be some deeper emotional connection as well, not so much on his part, but on her part.

    Version 2: It's not enough that the dancer is willing to meet a customer outside the club and be sexually intimate. She also has to make him believe and feel that she's genuinely interested in him beyond money. It's not enough that she seems to "like" him well enough to play with him, but there has to appear to be some deeper emotional and intellectual connection as well, not so much on his part, but on her part. He has to feel that she gains something special from this relationship that she could never find in a peer relationship.

    Version 3: She has to be a a girl with no father, a college student who's lonely in the dancing subculture, and a submissive who has no one to play rough with. It's not enough that she seems to "like" him well enough to go out and play with him. She has to look into his eyes and say, "I am sooo addicted to you."

    Version 4: What FBR's got with Ms D. I envy him more than MW, except the laptop was a bit much.

    Version 5: What Mr P has with Jenny. It's not enough that she seems to "like" him well enough to mindfuck with him. She keeps coming back again and again with more surprises.
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    See, silly me, I'm such a naif that I assumed that if a girl returns your calls and makes time to see you that's evidence enough that she "likes" you, at least for these purposes.

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    I guess my point is, I care about whether the girls I "date" like (or "like") me, but I don't see the point of dwelling on it rather than just concentrating on the experience. I mean, I spent six and a half hours with this girl last night. We go out like that once or twice a month. I always have a great time, and she always says she has a great time. We seem to have fun together. She always seems to be eager to repeat. Sure, the money must play a significant role here, but I'm not gonna hypnotize her to try to get her to reveal the inner workings of her true mind. The experience is great, and it doesn't feel like she's just there for the money and nothing else. So even if I'm wrong, what's the big deal? What purpose would it serve for me to agonize (OK I know we're not agonizing here) over her "true" "feelings"?

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    Hey Rath. Just for the record, I was being very facetious when I initially started this thread man. Viva los PLs!

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    OOOOOOOOOOPSSSSSSSSS.

    Sorry.

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    Cheers.

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    It's okay, Rath, your stuff is good.

    You have to understand that MW is just following his boy Frazier around. Frazier is the chick bait, but the girls who fall for Frazier fall for the powder, too.

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    I suppose if she is new to the biz there might be some sincerity but honestly money she is a stripper bro. I'd assume she is hustling. No fault to her but this is what strippers do.

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    The good thing about hustling is that it can work both ways.

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    This is gonna make me sound like more of a wet than ever, but why would you want to hustle anyone? Why not just reach an arrangement that satisfies both your needs? I personally think gameplaying just makes things harder.

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    Why not? Actually, when reaching an arrangement that satisfies both of your needs you will inevitably run across suggestions that don't quite fit into your ideal view of what the relationship is about. For instance, if she wants me to pay her rent or some shit like that she's dealing w/ the wrong individual. However, if she would like to enjoy the fact that I love to wine & dine then she can take advantage of that part of my personality. Hustling isn't really about playing games to me. I see it more as working an angle to get what you want. People do it all the time in all aspects of their lives. I'm hustling right now at work to try and get that sudden promotion that just became available which I am next in line for.

    Promotion = stronger warchest which in turn = dangerous roads ahead for moi.

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