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    Well, aside from the laughter that there would be anyone bigot enough to register a domain of: godhatesfags.com ....

    The real debate isn't whether such mindsets exist, but it's each other's perceptions of what is 'mainstream' or majority versus underground and limited to extremists.

    Some people feel only a rare few Christian extremists are the one's that want to smite down all gays and that the Swede's should all be drowned/killed... other's feel these are the words of the extremist few and not symptomatic of the mainstream Christian faith.

    By the same coin, the voice of 'mainstream' Muslims is often keyed on these blood thirsty, vengeance bearing words of jihad and uprising, as given here in the original post- whereas others feel these are not symptomatic of the mainstream Muslim faith.

    People tend to be hypocritical since they will sit on one side of the fence for one, and the other side of the fence for the other. It's a combined defensive + offensive stance with little balance or tolerance the opposite way.

    Lastly, if there is one thing common amongst Christians and Muslims- it's the human nature to vent or express words that don't have the actions to back them up in moments of trauma and loss. Christians without the ability to hurt a fly were chanting, "Nuke those towel heads until they glow in the dark!" immediately following 9/11. At the same moment, if you rounded up a bunch of Muslim terrorists handcuffed and handed these same people an M16, very few of them could pull the trigger. It's just venting. Muslims do it also- when feelings are extreme from loss and trauma, people always say things they don't necessarily mean. Good natured Muslims might be chanting to kill all Jews when a particularly nasty event occurs in the Gaza strip when Palestinian children or women are caught in the crossfire.

    It's the contagious disease of violence, hatred and bloodshed and people have to exhale this coldness somehow when it enters their lives. Words are much more healthy than actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwanderer
    * Note added - Wow, check out the links at the bottom of that page; I wonder what got that wacko so riled up re Sweeden...truly weird.
    What? I think it is perfectly obvious that God hates Swedes. Why the hell else would they be up there in Sweden?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    true in all cases - but I would point out that christian preachers haven't called for wholesale slaughter of 'infidels' since the second Crusade, while more than a few imams are doing so.

    And there more than a few Christian preachers espousing the "creationist theory" too. This is in spite of little things like dinosaurs, astronomy, etc. Extremist of any position, especially religion, politics, and finances, are often irrational and can become extremely dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madgrad
    Well, at least they didn't blame on the Jew's this time......

    Actually I blame it on Dr. No.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Except for one thing, all the Imams are doing is realying what the Quran says...
    Forgive me, and nothing personal, but that is sheer nonsense.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    [QUOTE=Wwanderer]A brief quote from d-c's link:

    madgrab, I am sure that if you keep googling a while you can find someone blaming the Jews too; I mean if there are people out there who think it was God punishing the Swedes...

    Wwanderer,

    I was being sarcastic. If you looked at the typical Arab news media; whenever some disaster occurs in the Arab world. The Arab news media usually blames it on the JIA [Jews, Israel, and America]. I'm just suprised that the J [in JIA] was not blamed for the Tidal wave this time.

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    I'm just suprised that the J [in JIA] was not blamed for the Tidal wave this time.
    Actually, Al Jazeera and other arab media DID try to blame the Tsunami on an underwater nuclear test conducted by the US and Israel ! For "proof" they attempted to draw the conclusion that the island of Diego Garcia, which is located in the same general area and where the US has military bases, was NOT severely affected by the Tsunami - implying that the US somehow directed the blast in a particular direction towards primarily muslim coastlines !

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    is someone here a little anti muslim or what

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    Humans do not have and probably never will have the power to make such a sudden and huge change in the earth's crust. Certainly we have no possibility of shaping the disturbance to control the resultant tidal wave's direction. This is completely ridiculous and such rumors only show the complete ignorance of those espousing such rumors.

    If it were possible the Russians missed a great chance in our northwest. However, it makes a possible theme for the Hollywood morons.

    The crust is the only part of whole earth that is solid, except for water bodies where the crust extends under the seas too. Below the crust is hot, molten minerals and metals. The crust averages about 100KM in thickness where the earth's diameter is about 13 500 KM. It is of the same proportion as the shell on an egg. So when that molten mass decides to move, or to erupt as volcanoes, there is nothing we humans can do to stop it. I found out that praying doesn't help much either. There is also almost nothing we can do to start or affect any movement of the plates; there is possibly something humans could do to affect volcanoes in a small way.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NurseGoodbody
    is someone here a little anti muslim or what
    After twenty (20) years of...

    Being called satan's spawn...
    Held Hostage...
    Blown up...
    Threatened to have your head sliced off...
    Being the subject of a war based on millions of believers...
    Living in the 13th century...
    Rights recinded because of muslim actions...

    Can do that to a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    Actually, Al Jazeera and other arab media DID try to blame the Tsunami on an underwater nuclear test conducted by the US and Israel ! For "proof" they attempted to draw the conclusion that the island of Diego Garcia, which is located in the same general area and where the US has military bases, was NOT severely affected by the Tsunami - implying that the US somehow directed the blast in a particular direction towards primarily muslim coastlines !

    http://novinite.com/view_news.php?id=43330
    LMAO Melody,

    I guess it just took them awhile to get creative for an JIA answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilly
    That is not, as you clearly tried to imply with the topic header, reflective of the entire or even the majority of Muslim people.

    That is an extreem view held by a small group of Muslims, not unlike how the KKK is not reflective of the entire Christian religon.
    I couldn't agree with you more. I am muslim and I am a stripper. I honestly could care less what an Imam or pastor has to say about my profession or how I live my life. Unfortunately there will always be people with some off the wall view or response. Screw them, I am sure the residents of the areas damged by the recent tsunami after happy to be getting the help the US and other countries are providing. Those are the people who really matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwanderer
    Truly twisted thinking; I wonder if they got the idea from Jerry Falwell's 9/13/01 explanation of the WTC & Pentagon terrorist attacks:

    "The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say: you helped this happen."

    Very similar sorts of "logic", it seems to me.

    Actually, of course, it is not the least bit novel. Clerics of many religions explain various natural (and man-made) calamities with "the gods are angry" theories, and invariably the divine anger is said/assumed to have been provoked by something or someone of which the clergy already disapproved. Muslims certainly have no particular claim on this ancient and none too subtle religious tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    After twenty (20) years of...

    Being called satan's spawn...
    Held Hostage...
    Blown up...
    Threatened to have your head sliced off...
    Being the subject of a war based on millions of believers...
    Living in the 13th century...
    Rights recinded because of muslim actions...

    Can do that to a person.
    Small groups of people have been responsible misdeeds throughout history.
    Hitler was 1 man who caused many to lose their lives. He and his follow German and Austrian commrades. I don't see Jews with that same attitude towards Germany today. Since we're on the subject of wrong doing, what about the inslavement of Africans. I don't see many people of African desent trying to over throw the government or attacking "Whites". Actually its the opposite. I am living proof,I can say that because I am multi racial and many members of my family are married to other races as well.
    I almost forgot to mention the Japanese Americans who were forced into internment camps when we were at war with Japan. They had their homes, jobs and livelihood taken from them. They aren't pissed off and harboring ill feelings towards America.
    The American government isn't perfect either. Lets not forget that its responsible for the training and backing of many of the same people who terrorize our country.
    Having said that I love my country and I couldn't see myself living any place else.
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    I also want to add its very important to focus on the actually person or group of people who are doing the damage and not condemn an entire race or religion.
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    Melonie, did you not state several months ago that the United States should just drop a nuclear bomb on Iran and save itself a lot of trouble?

    Pot, kettle, black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adina
    Melonie, did you not state several months ago that the United States should just drop a nuclear bomb on Iran and save itself a lot of trouble?

    Pot, kettle, black.
    Some researchers should do a study sometime to estimate which would result in fewer deaths over the long term (such as a millenium): allowing the mideast turmoil to continue for centuries at its slow but constant trickle of fatalities, or the fission bomb approach in a mass, one-time extermination. We should go with whichever approach results in the fewest people killed.

    I'm mostly kidding, but a little serious too.
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    Nothing disgusts me more than the whole "Kill them all" attitude I sadly see so common among members of a particular political party in this country.

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    Well ultimately, since we will all die eventually anyway, it might make a certain, perverted amount of sense to simply kill EVERYBODY right now. In fact, if we simply exterminated the human race TODAY then the ultimate body count would be lower, because there would be fewer people to die today than tomorrow, you know?

    Incidentally, I don't know how you'd feel about researchers recommending the extermination of Americans, seeing as they have been responsible (both directly and indirectly) for a whole lot of deaths in the past hundred years or so - and I somehow doubt that a millenia is going to improve your numbers. I think that if we did a world wide poll, probably a lot of people - probably a significant majority - would think the world could be improved by ridding itself of a few Americans.

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    Yep, mass extermination would be the ultimate lowest body count. I bet there'd be good numbers to support exterminating not just America, but probably each country too. Tough sales pitch to make though, we need to keep some people alive or there'll be no supporters for the coming revolution. But how to decide whom to keep? Maybe we should go with biological weapons...that'd speed up evolution a bit by weeding out the societies that haven't advanced far enough in medicine and the sciences to survive the impending plague.

    So there's one solution that we know for sure will work. Let's call it plan B, just to be optimists, and see if there's a plan A. Plan A will be another plan that we also know for sure will work, but isn't quite so extreme. Anyone have any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1
    see if there's a plan A. Plan A will be another plan that we also know for sure will work, but isn't quite so extreme. Anyone have any ideas?
    It's simple- create a new worldwide policy and mindset that any leaders that wish to declare war or mischief against another body of individuals must also lead that force.

    There would be a lot less friction if those instructing others to plunge to their deaths for "freedom" or "jihad" were actually required to be participants- instead of sitting safely in a climate controlled bunker eating figs, or sitting in an historic monument drinking champagne.
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    Didn't Osama fight (I mean actually fight with the troops/wehatever you want to call them) at some time? Though I think you're right in at least one regard: you'd see a lot fewer suidice bombings if the leader calling for it had to lead that charge, LOL
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    omg, why is it so huge?!! lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1

    So there's one solution that we know for sure will work. Let's call it plan B, just to be optimists, and see if there's a plan A. Plan A will be another plan that we also know for sure will work, but isn't quite so extreme. Anyone have any ideas?
    I do, why don't we focus more of our energy on maintain a decent standard of living in the US for a little while. Unless there is an emergency situation.
    We have spent millions putting the same people into power who we are now spending billions to over throw.
    Let us not forget that not only did the Taliban terrorize the US they also terrorized their fellow muslims. Remember Afghanistan.
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    Sorry Farrah.

    But the Quran says to kill me and mine, and everyone like me,or even close.

    Is that true or false,black or white??

    Dont be PC.(I already know the answer)

    Re-write your Quran,much like we,as christians,have re-written the Bible,then maybe we can talk.
    Exclude the part where it says to kill alll none belivers,even wait in ambush(defines terrorism imo), would be my suggestion.
    Keep raising generations to belive that "we"are the "devils" or the "infidals",and we will remain on different sides of the battle lines.
    Much as it has been for 2000 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polecat
    It's simple- create a new worldwide policy and mindset that any leaders that wish to declare war or mischief against another body of individuals must also lead that force.

    There would be a lot less friction if those instructing others to plunge to their deaths for "freedom" or "jihad" were actually required to be participants- instead of sitting safely in a climate controlled bunker eating figs, or sitting in an historic monument drinking champagne.
    I am sure the Hamas leadership will get right on that...

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