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    Over thinking Things

    I have found that when I over think making money I usually end up not making money. I have found that guys can sense how you are feeling, no matter how big your smile is. For example, January has been a horrible month. I have been going home with $50 dollars when I am used to at least $500. Yesterday was Monday, and on my drive to work my boyfriend told me how sexy I looked and made me feel wonderful.

    I went into work feeling super sexy and I was smiling and just glowing. The guys picked up on it fast. I went in at 2:00pm and there were about 15 guys there and 10 girls. I had a full stage each time and I got a dance off every stage.

    I have also found that reading the book Great Sex has helped me in the club. It tells me what men need to feel aroused. I have found that touching sensually on the shoulders, chest and running your fingers trough there hair while looking them in the eye is very effective in a private dance. Your also more likely to keep that guy in the back with you longer if he feels that you too are very turned on. I worked for about 4 hours and went home with $360.

    Just thought I would share what I thought worked best for getting those guys to do a private dance, and keeping them back there.


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    Yeah I have been down in the dumps lately, and haven't been able to make any money either. But then again, the club has also been very slow so who knows.

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    Thanks Lilly, that's very helpful.

    I really hope that guys can't see through us that easily! I've been soooo drained emotionally and physically recently it is insane! But I try to keep my stick on the ice and think positively. The last night I worked blew hardcore and that may have something to do with everything that is going on in my life recently and the fact that I am sick. I was the the lowest selling girl last time I worked and I usually do pretty damn good. So I'm hoping the next night I work I can just blank out everything else in my life so I will do better..... that's probably easlier said than done however.

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    I'm sort of the same way Lilly. I had to save up to buy plane tickets and rent at the end of Dec so I was less relaxed at work and hoping I could meet my goal. I think when I go into work and just relax and have fun then I do better because I'm more cheerful and I concentrate on conversation more. I think for some girls needing money motivates them to talk to more people but for me when I'm more relaxed I think I do better.
    I'm sorry Concubine that you're going through a rough spot now. Take care of yourself and try to get enough sleep. I hope you feel better soon!

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    Thanks so much CottonCandy, you guys are so great when it comes to support.

    One of my friends at work has the same problem. She's usually the top seller because she hustles like a maniac (I have no idea how she does it) but when she really needs the money she does really poorly..... Probably for the same reason as you, she cannot relax and just have fun.

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    Ya know that is also a great idea to stay focused at the club. That way a girl wouldnt be distracted by how many people arent there or how much she needs to make for rent for instance.
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    Here are a few tips from me. I may not be the top top earner however every time I employ these tips together... I can guarantee myself a good night (anything over $400 is a good night to me) and it feels like a breeze (like I worked less for more).

    1. Remember the person's (peoples') name(s). Use it the next time you go back to ask if he said he would be interested later. I've found that I have a good chance of success when I do this.

    2. Think sexy thoughts on stage and act like you've already made bank and then some. Thinking the sexy thoughts on stage does help you eminate the right "vibe".... same with acting like you've just made great $$ in tips on stage... you will attract the money with that type of attitude.

    This leads into:

    3. Have an "abundance" type of attitude about the whole shift. It really is true that if you think you are rich, that you will be rich. (Good ol' Napoleon Hill) Have true faith and belief that the Universe is abundant, that there is unlimited money out there.... abundance attract abundance. (On that note...another good book is One Minute Millionaire as well as Think and Grow Rich). If I'm finding that my mind is starting to drop out of abundance and into lack... I repeat the affirmation found in One Minute Millionaire and it works.

    Oh yeah.... last but not least... be adaptive and know how to sell. If you have to promote a lesser $$ dance... promote it.. yet promote it in a way so that it encourages the person to go for the bigger $$ item.. (or if you find that they go for the lesser $$ dance.. do a dance so that they will either tip you or stay for longer)
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    Very good advice GCG. Especially the part about acting like you already made enough $$$$. Guys can sence when your desperate.

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    Something else to think about too. I know whenever I go into a deal, it's done, and it's done in my favor. I KNOW this before ever walking in the door. I visualize the paper being signed, the handshake at the end, the whole bit. I don't hope it, I KNOW it. The other difference is that when I focus solely on making money, I rarely do. I look at business, in any form, as a game. I look at how I communicate with my customers no differently than a chess player eyes his moves on the board. I never look at doing business as out there making money. Rather, I look at it as going out to have fun because it’s what I love doing. Don’t look at going in to your club as a necessity to pay the rent this month or you need to make X number of dances for your car payment. Rather, you should start looking at the club as one big game, and you need to start loving the game more to start doing better. EVERYTHING begins in thought, so just start thinking in the right direction and the money will follow.

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    Well said GCG and Dancerwealth!!
    All the big money nights Ive had (500 or plus....in Sacramento) I felt as if it was some soft of how-many-people-I-can-talk-to game instead of worrying about my bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lillylove
    I have found that when I over think making money I usually end up not making money. I have found that guys can sense how you are feeling, no matter how big your smile is...
    In any kind of environment where you have to interact with people, attitude is always going to make a big difference. Whether you think you're showing it or not, most people will pick up on the (many, varied and often extremely subtle) clues that, for whatever reason, you're not completely comfortable. (whether that be feeling down, concentrating too much on the money, just don't feel like working, whatever)

    99.9% of the time, they won't realise why they aren't as attracted to you as they might otherwise be, or what you're feeling, but it will get processed on an emotional level nonetheless. If you feel good, so will they, and the converse is also true.

    (Aside: This is why a professional poker player will fleece an amateur without even trying. Unlike most of us, they have trained themselves to read these signs - "tells" - and know what they mean. Many could probably take Joe Average without even looking at their own cards, just by telling how he feels about his hand.)

    As a couple of other people have said, especially in anything to do with sales (you are selling a service, even if it's not the one that people would normally think about if you told them you were in 'sales') it's all about adapting your thinking. If you're feeling sexy, then you'll be sexy, it's as simple as that (if you're feeling like you're going to sell a dance, you will sell a dance). Ever been sitting at a cafe/restaurant/club and have a woman walk in and catch every guy's eye in the room? Then looked closer and thought she's not that pretty or striking, in a purely physical sense? Chances are she walked in knowing that she was the hottest thing there, which translates into a whole bunch of signals that then make her the hottest thing there.

    Quote Originally Posted by lillylove
    ...I have found that touching sensually on the shoulders, chest and running your fingers trough there hair while looking them in the eye is very effective in a private dance. Your also more likely to keep that guy in the back with you longer if he feels that you too are very turned on.
    Absolutely! Mind you, any guy that actually thinks you are turned on is immersing himself in the fantasy a bit too much...But yes, we'll agree to fool ourselves that we believe it if you agree to pretend to be turned on.

    Despite the fact that men tend to be visual creatures, most guys I know would vastly prefer this more 'intimate' style of dance to the close up of your pink bits that many dancers tend to assume we want. Here's another tip - when you're leaning in close, let your breath tease over our neck. It's hot. (I know that I can't help but continue to buy privates when I manage to find someone that does this style of dance)

    (I have also run across the 'ear-nibble'. While, as a customer, I love this and it drives me nuts - I can't help but consider the hygene issues involved with putting other people's bits into your mouth, and so am loathe to recommend it)(not that I will ever complain, from my standpoint)

    Just be careful with the fingers through the hair sometimes. Check how it's styled first. Some guys (particularly those of us who used to be called 'gay', but are now referred to by the laughable buzzword 'metrosexual') can get very thingy about it. Even if I tamp down my irritation at having my 'do messed up, it still may affect your chances of more of my money.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    Here are a few tips from me...

    1. Remember the person's (peoples') name(s). Use it the next time you go back to ask if he said he would be interested later. I've found that I have a good chance of success when I do this.
    Hell, yes. Make 'em feel special - even though they know they're not.

    Hell, all of GCG and DW's points are good, as always.

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