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    Somewhere I recently read that claiming to be a college student is one of the common "stories" that dancers often like to tell their customers, presumably because it's a turn-on for some. And yet the dancing "students" who I've met recently were able to discuss in detail and with intelligence the courses that they're taking, so if they aren't really students they ought to be. Anyway, ladies, I'm curious, what percentage of the dancers in your clubs would you guess are really college students? And what percentage of those are full time students? Seems to me that there are a lot more students dancing in clubs than there used to be.
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    Well, I'm one! I'm at uni fulltime but only dancing part time.

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    I'm a full time student and dance part time. :-)

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    I know a few at my club who say "oh, yeah, I go to that college" but in reality went once and have dropped out or just taking time off or uses it as a reason they can't see customers outside the club. I'd say about 1-in-4 actually attends - at least at my club. May be different elsewhere.
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    When I first started dancing part time I was going to college part time. But, soon after I started I dropped out. I kept it real and told people I was just dancing...and most tried to give me the lecture that I should go to school "blah blah blah blah". I hated that they tried to do that. Shoot, Im young and I can take a break from school if I want to. (I started when I was 18 right after HS)
    And when I return Im going to attempt to go full time and dance part time. Those who go full time on both ends I dont know who you do it but WOW!!
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    A lot of dancers I've worked with are college students.

    I've had customers ask questions about my course load, which college I went to, etc, etc. But that's dropping on the 'too personal note' for me. If they ask me questions pertaining to something I can help or offer advice about, I'll gladly answer.

    But I am curious....You said "Somewhere you read"..... Where did you read this? Can you offer us a link? I think a lot of them possibly drop out and decide not to mention it. I haven't come across that. I would think there are many college students in stripping though. Hours are flexible, and can work around your class schedule.
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    I find it so irksome that customers are so often thrown into a state of disbelief when I mention that I go to university. Are sexuality and intelligence really so mutually exclusive?

    However, I can't say that I blame the guys for being skeptical. Girls will tell customers anything that they think guys want to hear, me included. I have known a number of dancers who tell their customers they go to school as part of their fake life story. Or for some it works as a business strategy to get extra cash out of regulars because they will say they need money for tuition or whatever.

    I don't see why you customers care whether we are telling the truth or not. If you like a dancer and you have a good time with her at the club, does it really matter if she is going to school or not, has a boyfriend or not, blah, blah???? It's not like she's going to go out with you anyway....
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    I'm in college full time, and I dance on the weekends, and sometimes a few nights during the week. As far as I know, I'm the only dancer in school at my club...but that doesn't mean that there aren't others who lie. I'm not sure why you would lie about this...does it somehow validate your choice to dance? I think that's silly. I do find it offensive though, that so many customers are so suprised that I'm a student...it's the whole ugly and smart or beautiful and dumb stereotype that still exists, even to this day...so frustrating!


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    With how much it costs for tuition these days, I'm surprised more girls aren't college students by day, strippers by night.

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    We get a lot of guys in our club saying 'Oh, I bet you're a nursing student' sarcastically, so I don't even try to use that story. We do have quite a few actual nursing/medical students here, but they don't tell them that. I think a lot of it is that guys assume we must be doing this for some pressing reason (school, supporting 18 kids, etc), and ususally they ask a whole bunch of questions if you say you are NOT a student. God forbid we dance because we want to! I think saying you're a student cuts the questions a bit.

    And to answer the first post, we have about 1/2 fulltime strippers, 1/4 part time students and 1/4 fulltime other-job-havers. I don't think we have any full time students right now.

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    Ugh! Sick of being asked if I'm a student. The line I always use to custies who ask is ''I like to keep my personal life outwith the club''. It's none of their biz.
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    Ladies, thanks for the very interesting mix of responses. They range all the way from being very open and honest to being dishonest to none of your damn business, just like the mix of dancers in a club. Personally it's a question I often ask (if the girl seems intelligent enough and I usually look for the ones who are) because it gives us a lot to talk about. And often times a girl will volunteer the info without my ever asking. (Frankly I think it's amazing how open and aboveboard some dancers are and how secretive others are, but that's another topic.) The other reason I sometimes ask is because I'd much rather give money to a girl who is trying to better herself than one who will just snort it up her nose. Anyway, to whoever asked where I read aboubt it being a typical "story" it was on TUSCL's message board and was posted by a dancer under the heading "Top Ten Lies That Strippers Tell Customers." It's an interesting thread.
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    full time student here.

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    Im a full time student and I have guys that think I am lying all the time! But they are the ones who ask why I started dancing. It's true, I am a student.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayln
    I find it so irksome that customers are so often thrown into a state of disbelief when I mention that I go to university. Are sexuality and intelligence really so mutually exclusive?
    No, but going to college doesn't make one 'smart' either. I've known folk that had more than one degree and were still about as smart as a sack of hammers. And i've known other folk who skipped college altogether who had me thinking that NASA missed out big time when they skipped out on rocket science school.

    Nitpicking, i know. But any idiot can memorize stuff out of a book, or cram before a test. Real intelligence is something totally different.

    As for 'who's going to Uni and who isn't,' it's not my biz. I'd rather small talk about concerts or something fun than about someone's long term career choices. That strikes me about as fun as listening to grass grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    No, but going to college doesn't make one 'smart' either. I've known folk that had more than one degree and were still about as smart as a sack of hammers. And i've known other folk who skipped college altogether who had me thinking that NASA missed out big time when they skipped out on rocket science school.
    Nitpicking, i know. But any idiot can memorize stuff out of a book, or cram before a test. Real intelligence is something totally different.
    I completely understand your argument, and agree, however I wasn't trying to discuss epistemology or what distinguishes an intelligent person.

    Rather, I was questioning the judgment of customers who refuse to acknowledge that a dancer might also be a full-time student. They seem to have this idea that dancers must fall into this category of individual with certain characteristics, and unfortunately, intelligence is not one of them. (And we are assuming that college attendance and intelligence go hand in hand here )

    I had a customer once who refused to believe I had taken a good number of calc classes and to make me prove it, wrote a series of equations on a cocktail napkin.
    Despite him being an ass about it, I did the equations and took a lot of his money afterwards. Same situation has happened with a guy who did not believe I was valedictorian, so I brought in my certificate.

    I find these situations to be really frustrating, and I would love nothing more than to call them what they are and walk away, but I have found that the best way for me to deal with it is to be nice and get compensated, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayln
    I completely understand your argument, and agree, however I wasn't trying to discuss epistemology or what distinguishes an intelligent person.
    Oh, i know. It was just a tangent.

    I think it's that a lot of people assume that Dancers are 'taking the easy way out.' Maybe it's easier for them to think so. But as for someone lifeless enough to actually waste the time to make some girl 'prove' that she's in college, he's already living his punishment. God, i wish i had that kinda time to waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayln
    Rather, I was questioning the judgment of customers who refuse to acknowledge that a dancer might also be a full-time student. They seem to have this idea that dancers must fall into this category of individual with certain characteristics, and unfortunately, intelligence is not one of them. (And we are assuming that college attendance and intelligence go hand in hand here )
    I don't appreciate the customers that don't believe that we're not all drug addicts if we're not in college...
    I graduated two years ago, but I choose to dance because I like the income and no one can take away my degree... I'm not naive, I know there are people who use drugs in this line or work, but I do know that not all the non-college students are druggies... Everyone has different reasons for being dancers, it's not always drugs. I know quite a few that have their own businesses on the side, from selling dance clothes, hair styling or even house cleaning... None of the dancers go to college and none of them use their money for drugs.
    I just wanted to point out that just because we aren't in college it doesn't mean we're pissing our money away on illegal activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap

    As for 'who's going to Uni and who isn't,' it's not my biz. I'd rather small talk about concerts or something fun than about someone's long term career choices. That strikes me about as fun as listening to grass grow.
    To each his own I guess. Personally, I enjoy talking to people who are working towards a career goal. If dancing is that goal, fine. OTOH, if a woman is using dancing as a means to make money so she can get her education etc thats even better if for no other reason than in the real world, the dancing window of opportunity is so brief.

    As far as some dancers streching the truth a bit, yeah it happens. But from my experience, most of the ladies are being truthful.

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    I have known a few who lied about going to college or even which one they were in, but usually it was so that they would be excused from getting to the club on time. A few lived HOURS away, but unless they were students they had to pay a fine if they were late. I could def. see their point of view, but I's sure it got tought to keep up the charade when customers probed for info about their studies.
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    Well, with a scantily clad smiling woman sitting next to me (or on me) Calculus and Aristotle are very near the bottom on my list of conversational topics...

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    LOL Madcap

    Maybe one tends to mellow with age (or dry rot )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    Well, with a scantily clad smiling woman sitting next to me (or on me) Calculus and Aristotle are very near the bottom on my list of conversational topics...
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    Really?

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    I get this too. Everytime I happen to mention that I am in school, guys look at me crazy too. It's almost like you can't win. If you say all you do is dance than your labeled as a "lifer" or like you don't have enough brains to make it in the real world. But if you say you are a straight A student ( which I am by the way) they look at you like that is impossible for me to actually be using my job to better my self. I don't think I come off as making it look like school makes you smart, but like I said, guys almost ALWAYS get funny about it.

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