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    Default Getting over cocaine...

    Last week I chipped in for the funeral of a cute dancer who died of cardiac arrest while doing lines. Several months ago an early-30s housemom had a heart attack. My #2, 4 and 7 favorites started doing lines, and I got sick of the lies that go with covering it up. Now I'm having bad dreams about one of them.

    Does anyone know dancers or friends who are getting over cocaine? How did you reach them? How did they straighten out?
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    I had a buddy who for years ran a halfway house for people coming out of detox for alcohol and or drugs. There's one thing i've learned. You can't talk them into stopping. They've got to hit a point that makes them want to give it up. As much as you might care about someone and want the best for them the only thing you can really do is not enable them.



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    I'm sorry to hear that your friend died.That's nice of you though,to pay half for the funeral,They are so costly.Drugs are horrible.I have never done them myself but I see how they change people and make them their worst for the most part of it.

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    Could you possibly point out reasons for them to quit? For example: children, families, jail time, death.

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    My ex was very addicted to coke......He'd do it often. I think he started doing heavier drugs soon after. It's hard to get someone to quit, if that's what they want to do. I pretty much got sick of it. It made his attitude and everything about him change. I was kind of stupid for dating him anyways because I had an 'idea' that he did this stuff before getting with him. His friends, and I thought that we could "Talk him out of it"....But that didn't really work. I don't believe in the idea of "When they hit the bottom, They'll stop"....Well, what if they are dead? The idea is to get them help before they ever reach the bottom.

    Nothing we did really helped him though. He checked himself into rehab after he realized that this life would bring him nothing but pain.

    A few years later....He started back up again. So I don't know...

    Onto your question:

    Maybe talking to them about and seeing what's going on in their lives. Although since you're just a customer....I am not sure you can actually say much that'll change their minds. Are you close to them? That might help out more.

    Sorry about your friend though *Hugs*


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    Try to get them to go to this link: http://www.crackcocaineincamden.co....0of%20crack.htm

    I think you'd have to be completely numb inside for this to have no effect on you.

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    I was hooked on coke for a while. The one thing that got me to stop was my daughter and the fact that I OD'ed. My daughter is only five but very smart. She knew exactly what was going at the hospital the night I got my stomach pumped. Just the look on her face, the tears running down her cheek, and her telling me to stop or she would never forgive me was enough alone to get me to stop. Honestly, she saved my life because if I never gave birth to her I would still be doing it and I would most likely be six feet under. Sorry about your friend. I had a friend who died from what they call a drug cocktail. I feel for you and my prayers are with you and her family.

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    I know 3 people who have kicked through rehab. None of them where dancers. In all 3 cases they checked themselves in and ultimately, I think that is the only way to kick successfuly. Once you are an addict, it doesn't matter how you got there. If a boyfriend, girlfriend, lover, customer, whoever got you hooked, well that sucks but now it's YOUR problem to deal with. Drugs are an addiction-no different than being an alchoholic. One of the people I'm talking about lost a child to social services and another lost a career oportunity kind of job. In both cases, they saw the trajedy coming but couldn't clean up until the damage was done.

    Sporty, it sucks to see someone you care about go through this hell. I bust your balls alot but I wouldn't wish the helpess feeling you have right now on my worst enemy. Be an honest friend, offer support but understand that that's all you can do. You can't cure someone's addiction. Only they can.
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    I think it is very difficult to get a serious drug addict to stop using. I used to go to Narcotics Anonymous support meetings with my ex-girlfriend who is a former IV speed junkie, and she feels the program has saved her life. I would have to recommend the group to anyone who seriously wants to quit, but don't know how. It's also a good place to meet new friends who no longer use, but know the issues you are dealing with.
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    I never understood what the big deal is with cocaine,I never liked coke.But,I always seem to get associated whether it be friends,or relationships,with people who have tried it and liked it.They were'nt necessarily addicts,but,occassional line sniffers.It makes my heart race and hurt,talk a mile a minute,make weird faces,swing my jaw back and forth etc.It's crazy what people will do for a quick thrill.I mean,You're heart can burst,seriously,that's seriously scary.

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    Some people are dyed in the wool addictive types. One of the saddest things I ever heard was a guy saying, "I'm the kind of guy who has to try a little bit of everything at the party. If someone lays out a line, I gotta do it." Ironically, some of these people are terrified of death, but risk dying a disgusting, painful death by overdose.
    I know I sound bitchy to people who have struggled with addictions, but I grew up with an addict in my house and I swore I would NEVER hurt anyone like I had been hurt by him.
    You cannot change these people. Some will go to the grave addicts. You can show you care, but even then you need to be wary of manipulation and lying- the addicted brain works differently- promises and such don't mean the same thing.

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    Just went through this with my 43 yr old sister Sept 03.. But alcohol. Addiction is addiction however. She coded inthe hospital with me working on shift there with me holding her hand.

    I fought, talked, cried and everything else in-between for years with her. Bottom line is THEY have to WANT to stop. As i sit and blame myself for not trying harder, except checking on her daily and nightly, watching her waste away, she thought the doctors would fix her, as her role model for many many years was my step father who said it was ok to drink in our home at the age of 15.....

    I was just her baby sister. You can't get through to these people if they love their addiction, they have to hit bottom and then still want help, it's not easy. Also they need to stay away from people who have addictions as well.

    I almost had her baker-acted a few times. SORRY i did not.

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    Thanks everyone for the advice and information. I stopped seeing the #2 favorite, thinking she would open up and ask for help. Instead, it was the #1 who opened up and told me her temptations. That added a lot to the friendship.

    I had previously helped a favorite who understood that she was an alcoholic, wanted help, left dancing, went into AA, became a CNA, and started nursing school. But if they don't want help, it's sooo frustrating.

    For those who don't know about the Baker Act in FL, here's a URL:

    Those Camden pictures were scary.

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    Edit: I didn't pay for half the funeral. It was more like 100+ customers and dancers chipping in $10 each because the family didn't have enough money.
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    this was a sad read.... but as Pamela explained the truth is you cant help anyone who doesnt already want help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamela
    Bottom line is THEY have to WANT to stop.
    I agree 100%.

    I've seen people who've OD'd and the next day they're back to using. Others who've never OD'd just get sick of it and/or see how it's progressively ruining their life and they stop.

    I'm glad I've never even tried that stuff, but seen indirectly the damage it causes.
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    sports.. I hope your not talking about fantasies or cadillac lounge. I have friends at both.

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    Yes, Fantasies and Cadillac, but not peeps you know. The Cadillac dancer who died was 20 and fairly new.

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    i managed to get one girl off of it. she so much that when she had her baby, he died in her arms. i started talking to her about budgeting the money we made, then i talked to her about vegan & natural foods and yoga, which then led to her asking me to read her palm (she had never had any type of readings done before, i also did a card reading). i covered everything in her life to a t. i told her what had happened in her life (major events), what was going on and what would happen & how she could change it. she burst into tears cause she couldnt believe how accurate i was (hell, i couldnt believe myself!). she stopped doing coke after that...
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    that sad thing about this industry is that waaay too many girls use it to support drug/alcohol addictions. look at the money we make! all that $$$ going to waste...imagine what a wonderful future these people could build for themselves if that crap didnt go on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    Yes, Fantasies and Cadillac, but not peeps you know. The Cadillac dancer who died was 20 and fairly new.

    I dont know the housemom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer
    I dont know the housemom?
    You might. I sent you a PM.

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    any of the girls from cadillac on their website? I think i know the housemom you are refering to..

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    I think most people don't realize they're addicts. I know a few people who've died from drug cocktails. I have a friend that passed out after doing a line of speed and then having to take a valium about 15 minutes later to appear normal for the guy she is "dating", just the other day.

    Most people I know are "recreational users". Recreation is every weekend. Is that an addict?

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    It's helter-skelter when it comes to some consequences/ OD risks.....my brother is a druggie cockroach- he took everything and survived. He claims to have OD'd a few times, but is alive and kicking...it annoys me how I've been so straight by comparison, and he's still chugging along, same as he was before he started using. Ironically, it's the legal drug that dogs him the most- good old alcohol.
    Some people don't change. As hurtful as it is, you have to let them live out their own lives. Or cut their own lives short. Sounds heartless, but it's not your fault. This is a free country.

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    Just thought I'd toss out there that I've gone on hiatus from my "recreational" fun stuff. Got a little out of hand recently, decided to take a break. As of early Saturday morning. I love this place, I know I can count on everyone here for support!!

    I really do think it can be recreational, and it has been for me in the past, but at the moment, I'm feeling a little dependent on it, and the negs are outweighing the positives. So I'm done for a bit. I've set my date for a month, and will reevaluate then. May not pick it back up then, or I might. Hopefully this month will get my priorities back in order and then I can be smarter about my choices.

    Everyone cheer me on!!

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