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    Default Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    On the one hand, this does lend some 'mainstream' approval to exotic dancing as an acceptable career choice. On the other hand, it also promulgates the impression that all exotic dancers earn unbelievably high amounts of money. Comments ?

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    The don't know how it is to work during the slow seasons lol.

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    I liked his guess-timates about extra inches up top equaling wage increases in $50,000 increments.....
    I think his viewpoint comes from the relative cleanliness of some South Bay clubs, if he hasn't seen the "underbelly" of the SF scene.....to quote a boyfriend of mine about a seedy strip bar: "I wouldn't want my daughter working in there." Which of course is the whole point. That's why there's an uproar.
    Kids are growing up too fast these days anyhow......(sigh.)

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...tripping_x.htm

    William Fried told eighth-graders at Jane Lathrop Stanford Middle School that stripping and exotic dancing could be lucrative career moves for girls, offering as much as $250,000 or more per year, depending on their bust size.
    If that conclusion is drawn from personal participation, he must be a helluva tipper. Wonder what club he frequents.

    -Ev

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    Biggest problem here (or question) is whether we want 12 and 13 year old girls being told by school officials that any kind of adult activity/career is good. Not that it isn't, just I'm one for preserving childhood until every (or most) of the kids in the class have made it through puberty.

    And postponed talk of careers that don't require finishing High School until the finishing is almost assumed.

    But that's just me.

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    LOL, that's funny! He probably did it to wind them all up.

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    Ever being the pragmatist, I also found it disturbing that the publicity generated by this incident is basically telling every Californian gov't official, in a state with a 35 Billion dollar deficit, that there is an entire exotic dancing industry out there with tens of thousands of 'employees', all of whom are earning up to $250,000 a year, with very few state and federal tax payments coming in to go along with that high income !

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    Ever being the pragmatist, I also found it disturbing that the publicity generated by this incident is basically telling every Californian gov't official, in a state with a 35 Billion dollar deficit, that there is an entire exotic dancing industry out there with tens of thousands of 'employees', all of whom are earning up to $250,000 a year, with very few state and federal tax payments coming in to go along with that high income !
    Hmmmm! It seems we have a way to resolve all of the local-state-Federal budget woes by cracking down on the tax scofflaws from just one industry.



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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    I think it's terribly damaging. Almost any attention brought to exotic dancing offers the rabid anti-adult industry people an excuse to crusade against it. And I really wouldn't equate one public speaker with "mainstream approval", especially since he is losing the speaking engagement and now a whole school district is in an uproar.

    Also, the $250K thing is crazy, at most clubs. Working four days a week, never taking a day off or a week for vacation, you'd have to make $1200 every night, without fail, after house fees and tipouts. Yeah. That's likely. But if a lot of women are told they can make that much as exotic dancers, they might flood the field, and then nobody will make any money, or the clubs will hike the stage fees because they can, etc. Not to mention the IRS.

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    Default Re: Well this is certainly something new - good or bad ...

    For one thing, I know for fact there is no way I will come even close to $250,000 this year. For a second thing, I am not a mother, but if I were I would not want some guy hired to speak at a school telling my daughter that stripping is a career option. In a way it's telling them you really need no education to make money, just boobs. There goes all motivation to finish school.

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