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    Default Repub effective campaign compared to DDD

    I have replaced the word group with the word Republican to show how Bush & co have used DDD( Deception, Dependency & Dread- The Conversion Process) to gain control of voters.

    Although the process here described is complex and varied, the following appears to occur in the prototypical cult conversion:

    The Repub (leader[s]) deceptively presents itself as a benevolent authority that can improve the prospect's well-being.

    • The prospect responds positively, experiencing an increase in self-esteem and security, at least some of which is in response to what could be considered "placebo" The prospect can now be considered a "recruit".
    • Through the use of "sharing" exercises, "confessions," and skillful individualized probing, the group [leader(s)] assesses the recruit's strengths and weaknesses.
    • Through testimonies of Repub members, the denigration of the Repub's "competitors" (e.g., other religious groups, other political parties), the tactful accentuation of the recruit's shameful memories and other weaknesses, and the gradual indoctrination of the recruit into a closed, nonfalsifiable belief system, the Repub's superiority is affirmed as a fundamental assumption.
    • Members' testimonies, positive reinforcement of the recruit's expressions of trust in the Repubs, discrete reminders about the recruit's weaknesses, and various forms of Repub pressure induce the recruit to acknowledge that his/her future well-being depends upon adherence to the Repub's belief system, more specifically its "change program."
    • These same influence techniques are joined by a subtle undermining of the recruit's self-esteem (e.g., by exaggerating the "sinfulness" of experiences the recruit is encouraged to confess"), the suppression or weakening of critical thinking through the repetitive message that only disaster results from not following the Repub's "change program." These manipulations induce the recruit to declare allegiance to the Repub's and to commit to change him/herself as directed by the Repub's. He or she can now be considered a convert embarking on a path of "purification", "enlightenment", "self-actualization", "higher consciousness," or whatever. The recruit's dependency on the Repub's is established and implicitly, if not explicitly, acknowledged. Moreover, he/she has accepted the Repub's authority in defining what is true and good, within the convert's heart and mind as well as in the world.
    • The convert is next fully subjected to the unrealistically high expectations of the Repub's. The recruit's "potential" is "lovingly" affirmed, while members testify to the great heights they and "heroic" models have scaled. The Repub's all-important mission, e.g., save the world, justifies its all-consuming expectations.
    • Because by definition the Repub's is always right and "negative" thinking is unacceptable, the convert's failures become totally his or her responsibility, while his or her doubts and criticisms are suppressed or redefined as personal failures. The convert thus experiences increasing self-alienation. The "pre-cult self" is rejected; doubts about the group are pushed out of consciousness; the sense of failure generated by not measuring up to the Repub's expectations is bottled up inside. The only possible adaptation is fragmentation and compartmentalization. It is not surprising, then, that many clinicians consider dissociation to lie the heart of related distress and dysfunction (Ash, 1985).
    • The convert's self-alienation will tend to demand further psychological, if not physical, alienation from the non-Repub world, information from which can threaten to upset whatever dissociative equilibrium the convert establishes in an attempt to adjust to the consuming and conflicting demands of the Repub's. This alienation accentuates the convert's dependency on the Repub's.
    • The Repub. supports the convert's dissociative equilibrium by actively encouraging escalating dependency, e.g., by exaggerating the convert's past "sins" and conflicts with family, by denigrating outsiders, by positively reinforcing or other "thought-stopping" activities, and by providing and positively reinforcing ways in which the convert can find a valued role within the Repub's .
    • The Repub's strengthen the convert's growing dependency by threatening or inflicting punishment whenever the convert or an outside force disturbs the dissociative equilibrium that enables him or her to function in a closed, nonfalsifiable system (the "dread" of DDD). Punishment may sometimes by physical. Usually, however, the punishment is psychological, sometimes even metaphysical. Certain fringe Christian groups, for example, can at the command of the leadership immediately begin shunning someone singled out as being "factious" or possessed of a "rebellious spirit." Many groups also threaten wavering converts with punishments in the hereafter, for example, being "doomed to Hell." It should be remembered that these threats and punishments occur within a context of induced dependency and psychological alienation from the person's former support network. This fact makes them much more potent than the garden-variety admonitions of traditional religious, such as "you will go to hell if you die with mortal sin."
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    I would like to encourage all those who feel that Bush & Co used a campaign of fear to write your Dem. State Rep's and ask them to consider implementing the process used to get people out of cults to hopefully wake the American people up and get them to start using their critical thinking skills again rather than be victimized by another fear based campaign in 2008.

    Knowledge is power, so lets give the US voters the knowledge to fight the brainwashing that was so effective in the Repub. 2004 campaign.

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    Oh - and here I thought she was describing the democrats with all their divisionist class-warfare politics.

    You are different from the rest of america. You have no chance with the rest of America. You need us.

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    Alcoa loves shit like this...
    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

    William F. Buckley, Jr.

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    Default Re: Repub effective campaign compared to DDD

    ofcourse it's pretty common for those who have been indoctrinated in cults to deny it and I didnt really expect anything less anyway.

    doubts about the group are pushed out of consciousness
    Because by definition the "group" is always right and "negative" thinking is unacceptable
    the refusal of said conservatives to even consider the similarities to Roves brillant use of DDD in his campaign for Bush shows how very afraid you are that the possibilty exists. Ofcourse that is also common behavior for victims of brainwashing.
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    Please don't be mean to people. Try to respond to their ideas, rather than their identieties. Please take personal issues to PM or put people on ignore.

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    Back to the topic...

    I agree that these strategies can be and have been used by most political parties. I think the american public is possibly more susceptable to these strategies than at almost any previous time, due to the threat of imminent terrorism, war, and crime, and the effectiveness of modern media.

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    I agree that many political parties worldwide have used these tactic and imo it was used very effectivly in the 2004 election by the Repubs.

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    Default Re: Repub effective campaign compared to DDD

    I wonder how this is different from other techniques intended to motivate people into any sort of organization, for example network marketing, military/commercial task teams, religions, families, etc. -- in short anything that attempts to dispel powerful outside forces by ramping up people's self-assurance.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Default Re: Repub effective campaign compared to DDD

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilly
    I agree that many political parties worldwide have used these tactic and imo it was used very effectivly in the 2004 election by the Repubs.
    The democrats screwed the pooch themselves.

    They wanted more taxes when already a lot of people feel they already pay to many taxes. You do realize that if you make over 50K a year you're considered "rich."

    They had no plan for terrorism - but they did manage to talk about a war that happened 30 years ago.

    The gay marriage thing had just the worst timing. It wasn't Karl Rove who rallied the christian right to come out to vote - it was the gay marriages. Old people, rednecks, black baptists, and just about every other group that has a cross in the house came out to vote.

    Until democrats come to understand the rest of the country is not as progressive as they are and have never been - they are going to loose election after election after election after election.

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