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    Default I need help with writing a speech....

    In my public speaking class I have to give a Informative Speech about a person, place, or event. The professor wants us to speak about a topic that will catch the attention of the students and keep their attention.

    I chose to write my speech about a place, strip clubs. I basically want to talk about what they are, all of the misconceptions about them, who goes to them and why. And also talk about the girls that dance in them. Alot of people have negative misconceptions about them, I even did before I started to dance, and I just wanted to inform the class. I could write the longest sppech ever, but I wanted to get ideas from other dancers and people that go to strip club views about this topic.

    If anyone could just throw out some ideas, or things that would be interested for some college kids to hear. Or if you know of any negative things about strip clubs that you want to straighten out.

    Thanx sooo much for anyones help

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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    are you outting yourself?

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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    I would give that idea a second thought only because if I heard some chic in my class talking about SC's in a positive turn the real truth over way I would think she's a stripper.
    In some ways if someone were to make a speech like that no matter what they said Id still think they strip.
    But, I just wanted you to give your speech a second thought. However, I do have a solution: when you write pretend that you are writing about other girls. Make up names and things. But, you can still provide real information for them to hear. I just wouldnt put myself out there like that. Stay safe hun...
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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    I guided a dancer through a community college course in composition with an uptight woman who made $35K/year. Trust me, you're taking a BIG chance giving anyone a hint that you're a stripper. Maybe in a graduate sociology course, but not in an intro speech course.

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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    without doubt....

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    I'm with SW2 here; save it for grad school.
    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

    William F. Buckley, Jr.

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    Yep. Murphy's Law makes it a fact that:

    The professor is not nearly as liberal as you think.

    Exactly every other woman is also taking Theory of Feminism and they just last week covered the evils of the adult entertainment industry.

    Three male classmates will show up at your club to ogle you naked for free and prove to everyone that they know your real name, even if they have to hit every club in town to find you.
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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    Also, sweetie, every new dancer thinks that bringing the whole sordid world of stripping into academia is a brilliant, and new idea, but it's not. Honestly, it can be kind of incendiary, depending on where you go to school, but overall it's not a great topic unless you have a particularly brilliant take that has never been done before - and even then, you are just making yourself a target. If you feel you absolutely have to write on this topic, I would actually rec. taking on Lilith's point above - the role of sex trade in "third wave" feminism, and "grrl power" vrs "grrrl power". Actually, I take that back - I only recommend that if you are in first or second year.
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    Lots of good advice here. I would avoid the topic. College students and professors are not always as open minded as you might think.
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    I gave a speech last semester about the objectification of women, and inteviewed local strippers on the effects that this had on their lives, their views of men, self-esteem, substance abuse, etc., and how they handled being a sex symbol, and if they internalized the stuff they heard, or could separate their job from their "regular" life. I also included the definition of objectification and some research I found that was really shocking, just to spice up the speech. I think if you approach it carefully, you could give a very enlightening speech, and still not exploit yourself for the sake of a speech class. I am a stripper and did not reveal it to the class. I just tried to show people some of the effects of this profession on a person. I had a VERY liberal prof, though, and my class was pretty tightknit. It was a intro class. The whole class was very affected by my speech. I don't know why, but I just felt the need to do that topic. Later, I found out I had previously in my career given one of the guys in my class a lapdance. If you want help finding research, let me know, I have lots.

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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    Personally, I would avoid giving a speech about strip clubs in a speech class. And this is coming from a student who took a speech class at a very small school where most anything was accepted. Ultimately the decision is up to you. But if you do, remember that someone, might know someone, that knows someone else, who knows someone that you don't feel needs to know you talked about stripping. This in turn can lead to conflict, and what for? a speech in a class. On the brighter side, if you are still wanting to give a speech on stripping, limit the scope. for exampe only speak on common misconceptions or cosmetic surgery in the industry. Don't give yourself too broad of a topic. Good Luck with your decision.

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    As a general rule, I agree with most of the above posters. A public speaking class is probably not the best place to ensure a receptive audience. If you know your professor and fellow students pretty well, and think they would be receptive, then that's your call. If you don't know all/most of them reasonably well, then your running the (pretty high) risk of finding the bigot(s).

    You need to pick your forum. A couple of months ago I joined a friend for one of his 3rd year Philosophy tutorials. The venue - the local strip club. The (female) lecturer had received a whole bunch of requests for an extension on an essay. Her solution - anyone who came out to the club got a two week extension. The difference here though was that we're talking
    a) Third years, who should have grown up a bit by then.
    b) Philosophy students, for whom not being open-minded is the ultimate sin and leads to failing grades (if you can't argue both sides, you should have quit two years ago).
    c) A topic that had already been discussed ad nauseum in tutorials, this was simply the culmination, and;
    d) A group that included both my informed friend, and a girl who worked at the local club. (and me, as a graduate of the course, as an observer)

    Combined with an obviously sympathetic professor, who wanted to take the debate to the next level by giving her students some first-hand experience. In the end, you're the only one who can make a call on your specific situation but as others have said - be careful.

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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    Okay, well I will take you all up on the advice and not speak about it.

    Thanks for all of the advice, maybe I should not have waited until the last minute. The speech is tomorrow and I have nothing to write about .

    Thanx
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    ^ Write about the ostensible academic freedom that supposedly exists on college campuses, yet enlighten the class about the presence of polemic academics pursuing agendas made safe by the archaic institution of tenure.

    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

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    In addition to the risks of outing yourself, as a pure speech there is the risk of knowing TOO much about a subject. Knowing too much makes it easy to drift away from the central premise and into minutia and to go astray from your planned remarks when presenting.

    As a topic you want to carefully consider the time factor and stay narrowly "on topic". Just look at the mistakes that a lot of politicians make in debates of drifting into minutia rather than getting to the point before boom--time is up.

    In my experience the best topics for speeches are things which are mysteries to most people. then you can hammer home the point that if A is true, then B is true and if C is trued then D is true. It presents facts supporting a and facts supporting C and lets the listener weigh the evidence for himself. I had a speech class at work 25 years ago and I still remember the guy who was talking about wheter the universe was going to keep expanding or ultimately collapse back on itself.

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    I would recommend against it, for pretty well all the reasons mentioned by most posters above. People can be fucking mean and narrow minded when it comes to this shit, and I too have experienced bare-faced lie acceptance from supposed "liberal" folks only to find out they have dissed me behind my back. You don't want that at your college, babe.
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    Default Re: I need help with writing a speech....

    Okay, so I saw this topic and was immediately gung-ho to help, since I am a speech teacher. but when I read your post I have to say I agree with what all the other posts cautioned you against. The few posts that said to save it for Graduate school, well, that seems like a feasible solution, but some of you may remember the post I had awhile back about presenting my paper to a 2nd year grad school research class and how well that went over. Suffice to say, our industry is taboo and will remain such as long as people are scared of their own sexuality. Even in the world of acadameia, we are doomed to keep our thoughts on the subject to ourselves, and that makes me sad.

    But, how did your speech go anyway and what did you decide to do it on?

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    Well I did not do my infromatice speech on Srip clubs.

    Instead I did it on another topic that I learned about in strip clubs and that is DATE RAPE drugs and how to protect yourself. A topic the we have to be informed about.

    Trinity2005

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    I'm glad you didn't talk about it to your class, you'd have regreted it... at least 99% chance

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