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    tonight a friend and i went to our local club. we both have VIP status there as we are somewhat decent spenders. we also both have our favorite dancers that we patronize above others.

    tonight we walk in and sit at a table close to the stage and my friends favorite dancer comes to sit with us, he had just repaired her computer for her and we went there tonight just to drop off the computer. we weren't even planning on staying that long. at any rate, he gave her her laptop (which he fixed fro free) and she got called onto stage. then my favorite dancer came and sat with us. she asked me if i wanted a dance and i said i would get one later. she knows that i usually like to just sit down and relax for a few beers before i get a dance so it wasnt a big deal. my buddy then said he would like a dance, and they then went to the back.

    while they were back there the first dancer got off the stage and came back to the table and wanted to know where my friend went. i said he was in the back with dancer #2. at this point dancer #1 compleatly flipped out on me and started bitching me out for him being "disrespectful". i told her that he had a lot of money with him and would probably get a dance later and that he always got dances from multiple girls and she should know that. she continued to hassle me until i told her there was nothing i could do and she needed to move on.
    when my buddy came out from the back i filled him in on what happened. he told me he had been planning on getting a dance from her after he finished his beer. so, i was right in that respect. dancer #1 came up to him right after he said that and went off on him for about 5 minutes solid about how he was a complete dick and shouldn't treat dancers that way. he tried to explain that he was planning on getting a dance from her. i asked her why she was acting like that as he had just spent the last 2 days fixing her computer for her for free. she then told me to mind my own business and walked off.

    my buddy and i got up to leave as our night was pretty much ruined as we were both pissed off beyond belief. dancer #2 stopped us as we were approaching the door and asked where we were going. i told her that dancer #1 had bitched us out for nothing and we were gonna go get some mcdonalds and a movie for the night. she called the head bouncer over and he told us that he would deal with dancer #1 and bought us a pitcher of beer. he then promised us that she would never pull that stunt in the club again. later the owner approached me and asked if everything was cool. i told him the bouncer had taken care of us and gotten us a pitcher and talked to the offending dancer. he then confermed that she had been "delt" with and got us another round of drinks. all in all we wound up having a great time. i really can't understand why she went balistic like that though, my friends and i all have our favorite dancer that we always get one dance with, but we also like to get dances from other ladies as well and our favorites know this and dont really care because they are still making 40-80 bucks a week off us.

    no real point to this rant. i'm just still kinda irked about it all.

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    Maybe she was just having a bad day or was stressed or had PMS or felt sick or is psychologically damaged or who knows.

    Did you ask her?

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    word spread like wildfire through the club and within 30 minutes every dancer there had come up to us and told us that she had pulled similar stunts with other regulars.

    this girl also told us, before the incedent, that she needed to go take another couple of xanax as the 2 she took earlier were wearing off. when she said that, i knew trouble was around the corner.

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    People aren't perfect. Sometimes, otherwise congenial individuals will lose it. You may never know why. She might be a total whack-job......and she could just have easily have found out her mother was dying.
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    i would have mabye given her the benifit of the doubt, but when i heard this was a pattern of behavior with her, i stuck with being pissed. also, the fact that she is taking 3-4 times the recommended dosage of the most powerful and addictive anti depressant is very telling.

    i highly doubt that a reputable doctor perscribed her that much xanax. besides, when xanax is overused, part of the addiction is a severe instability in mood that makes the user think they need to take more and more. from the way things sounded when my friend and i spoke to the head bouncer and owner, she probably wont be back any time soon. if so, she probably got a hefty fine for antagonizing the custies. i know my club does that as another dancer told me she got a 200 dollar fine for yelling a custie who said he didnt get dances from ugly girls. (i'm not saying i agree with that particular fine, just pointing out the club does it)

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    I guess you answered your own question then. Looks like it's time to find another favorite.

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    wasnt my favorite, it was my friends. and yeah, she is never getting another cent off of us again.

    like i said before, there was no real point to the post. i was just pissed about it all and wanted to see what you girls thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafushpu
    like i said before, there was no real point to the post. i was just pissed about it all and wanted to see what you girls thought.
    Sorry you had to endure that. Unfortunately, it's a fact of SC life that some dancers have drug abuse problems, and it sounds like you were hit by one whose problem came out in an obvious way. Also unfortunately, some people need to hit bottom before they wake up to how bad it is and get their act together. I mean, best of luck to her sorting it out, but it's her problem. It's good that the club tried to make up for your stress from the drama because it sounds like you tried to be polite and did nothing wrong. Hopefully, you've got plenty of other gorgeous dancers behaving like civilized vamps to appreciate now.
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    She was totally out of line. I don't care if she was having a bad day, bad week, bad night ... no excuse for her behavior. And thereis absoluytely no excuse for the Xanax comment. I hate when dancers feel the need to talk about their many drugs that they need to take. It's very trashy.

    Kudos to the club for making it up to you with the beer and round of drinks. They value you as a customer.

    What state was this club in??

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    That's the beauty of the club that I go to. None of the ladies I've ever had dances from have ever acted that out of line. If they ever did, I would definitely find another place to go.

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    Okay - first. Fucking drag man. I personally hate it when dancers pull that kind of crap, and I understand that you might not want her around anymore. But was there really a need to get her in trouble at her work just because you were ticked off? I mean, the last club I worked at I saw a similar problem - a customer who came in about twice a week and didn't really view himself as any girl's "regular" was being "claimed" by a girl who behaved very inappropriately - confrontations with him, other guys at the table and other dancers that he got dances from. He, however, contented himself with just NOT spending money on her, or further socializing with her. I don't think he was even ever rude to her, let alone was a complaint made. It just seems mean to feel so much better because she got in trouble, and is that much closer to being fired. Also - if you and your friend go in so regularly, and have never been "exclusive" to this chick, what do you think happened that night? I mean, maybe she was just having a really bad day. The fact that other dancers shared some bitching about her (which is also very inappropriate by the way - I can't even stand that - like, raise your hands, everybody here who would go over and bitch about a dancer after she had a confrontation with her regular, and had been bitched out by the bouncer? Even if she was stupid and bitchy? What the fuck is wrong with people anyway? Maybe you should just find a whole new club) doesn't really prove anything.

    And by the way - if I asked a guy for a dance and he said he doesn't get dances from ugly girls I would have yelled at him too. Well, I probably wouldn't have actually yelled, like raised my voice, but I would have said something mean and cutting. Or sent in a letter of complaint to somebody. I think every dancer should yell at rude customers. I think every dancer should yell at customers who are rude about other dancers. Then we might have better trained customers.
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    I mean seriously. Her behaviour was completely out of line. You just don't yell at customers or anyone if you work the clubs. Just like dancers are quick to turn in a customer, why shouldn't a customer tell about his dealings with a very rude dancer.

    See you guys were going to leave...the club was going to lose money because of her. Everything was taken care of and you two stayed, had more fun, spent more $$!!!!

    A dancer in a bad mood could almost clean house. Very bad. The right thing happened.

    Good luck in the future! And i firmly believe if a dancer is having a bad day/night, don't go to work...This is sales.

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    She must have been having a bad day and you guys were an easy target..Unfortunatley. Don't take it personally..she was in the wrong. And for someone that did something for her she certainly did not show any graditude. Infact she should have offered a couple of free dances ..at the least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Okay - first. Fucking drag man. I personally hate it when dancers pull that kind of crap, and I understand that you might not want her around anymore. But was there really a need to get her in trouble at her work just because you were ticked off? I mean, the last club I worked at I saw a similar problem - a customer who came in about twice a week and didn't really view himself as any girl's "regular" was being "claimed" by a girl who behaved very inappropriately - confrontations with him, other guys at the table and other dancers that he got dances from. He, however, contented himself with just NOT spending money on her, or further socializing with her. I don't think he was even ever rude to her, let alone was a complaint made. It just seems mean to feel so much better because she got in trouble, and is that much closer to being fired. Also - if you and your friend go in so regularly, and have never been "exclusive" to this chick, what do you think happened that night? I mean, maybe she was just having a really bad day. The fact that other dancers shared some bitching about her (which is also very inappropriate by the way - I can't even stand that - like, raise your hands, everybody here who would go over and bitch about a dancer after she had a confrontation with her regular, and had been bitched out by the bouncer? Even if she was stupid and bitchy? What the fuck is wrong with people anyway? Maybe you should just find a whole new club) doesn't really prove anything.

    And by the way - if I asked a guy for a dance and he said he doesn't get dances from ugly girls I would have yelled at him too. Well, I probably wouldn't have actually yelled, like raised my voice, but I would have said something mean and cutting. Or sent in a letter of complaint to somebody. I think every dancer should yell at rude customers. I think every dancer should yell at customers who are rude about other dancers. Then we might have better trained customers.
    Ummm...Hello?? The customers should complain, or they may never come back, and say bad things about the club to their friends and total strangers on the internet! The girl should be fired, and it is not the customer's fault that she went balistic.

    Training customers? I would be willing to bet that youare not long for this (or any sales) business.


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    Xanax isn't an anti-depressant. It's an anti-anxiety drug. Totally different. Although a lot of people who are depressed use Xanax like that.

    Maybe she's just having stripper burnout and needs a break. Maybe her father got diagnosed with cancer in the last few weeks. Maybe she's an undiagnosed bi-polar. Maybe her best friend and her have been fighting.

    If you had bothered to ask, maybe you wouldn't be so harsh to judge.

    Too bad customers sometimes forget that we're also people with feelings and not just a pair of tits to stare and try to grope.

    I know there are two sides to every story, we just haven't heard hers. I can only speak for myself, but when I have bitched out customers, I feel it's been for very valid reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    Training customers? I would be willing to bet that youare not long for this (or any sales) business.
    Well, really, I hope not. I fucking hate dealing with people. And, as for this job, I've already been doing it way longer than I would personally like. And yes, "training" customers - you may not like the term, but the reason you hate clubs where the girls do "extras", sit with the guys for free and dance at half price is because that is what they are teaching (training, if you will) the customers to expect. So, yes. If girls sit around tolerating rudeness and insults it certainly teaches the customer (trains, if you will) that it is an okay way to behave.

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    Ummm...Hello?? The customers should complain, or they may never come back, and say bad things about the club to their friends and total strangers on the internet! The girl should be fired, and it is not the customer's fault that she went balistic.
    Well okay then. We will just have to disagree on this. I myself am not a big complainer - if a waitress or a hairdresser does not perform correctly or adequately I will happily satisfy myself with using a different waitress or hairdresser in the future - it doesn't make me feel at all better to get them in trouble or (god forbid) fired - in fact, that would probably make me feel bad. Whereas just not patronizing her anymore would not. And I completely agree that it wasn't the customers fault she went ballistic, and I never implied that it was. I hate it when girls do that kind of thing. Maybe she did "deserve" to be fired - I would still feel bad.
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    Oh my god, Jenny!!! Paris is absolutely right ... The club makes money based on customers!! It doesn't matter if the CUSTOMERS are in a bad mood, good mood, foul mood, whatever mood. They are there to spend money and have some drinks. Dancers and waitresses are in customer service. We are there to make customers happy and of course make money. No one has the right to be rude to a customer! NO ONE! If they grab us offensely, say something illegal and offensive, then we take it to managemetn and let them handle it. But in no way, no terms, DO WE TALK TO THE CUSTOMERS RUDELY! They are the clubs bread and butter. REMEMBER THAT!!!

    if the dancer is having a bad night, bad mood, off her medication, then friggin stay home! That dancer could have potentially taken money away from the rest of the girls and taken it right into another club and given them the business!!

    The dancer will just move on to another club. They always do. And if she is a Xanax junkie, I'm sure she won't last in the business for too many more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Well okay then. We will just have to disagree on this. I myself am not a big complainer - if a waitress or a hairdresser does not perform correctly or adequately I will happily satisfy myself with using a different waitress or hairdresser in the future - it doesn't make me feel at all better to get them in trouble or (god forbid) fired - in fact, that would probably make me feel bad. Whereas just not patronizing her anymore would not. And I completely agree that it wasn't the customers fault she went ballistic, and I never implied that it was. I hate it when girls do that kind of thing. Maybe she did "deserve" to be fired - I would still feel bad.
    That is the exact reason why you should complain. Complaints are communication. If the business that you are forking over your hard eaned money to is not giving you what you have asked for- Then speak up! My husband has employees and if they are not performing thier jobs, they need to be replaced by someone who can. This is business, not charity. If I want to help somone out I will give my money or time to charity, but my business is my personal reputation. I have my blood, sweat and tears invested into my business, and having some person driving my customers away with out my knowledge is a troubing thought.

    I'm sorry that you don't enjoy being a dancer, but I personally love it!. I have never had so much fun, met so many awesome people and seen so much of the world in any other career. I certianlly don't want some unbalanced girl driving away my regulars, and am happy that this customer did the exact right thing in talking to management. I think any girl should have a chance to make her money as long as she is an asset to the club. When she becomes a liabilaty then she needs to move on. This particular dancer was messing with the livelyhood of all the other employees and dancers of that club.

    If one customer complains to management that means there are probaly 10 others who simply said nothing and either didn't return, or took their business elsewhere.


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    Paris, AGAIN, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!

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    Okay, I surrender - no mercy for the weak! Or for those who had a bad day. You're right actually, I know this - the girl was massively inappropriate, and I'm sticking up for her because I'm nasty and contentious, and because I feel sorry for girls that get reamed out at work. It's completely irrational.

    Except:
    If they grab us offensely, say something illegal and offensive, then we take it to managemetn and let them handle it. But in no way, no terms, DO WE TALK TO THE CUSTOMERS RUDELY! They are the clubs bread and butter. REMEMBER THAT!!!
    Are you out of your mind? I'm a little rude even to the customers I'm nice to - I just think it's funny. Under no circumstance be rude to the customers? I'm sorry, I just can't even get my head around that. I'm trying, I'm expanding my head - nope, no good, not going to happen. I'm sorry, if I were going to get management every time a customer behaved inappropriately they would hate my guts - like "Jenny, will you please leave me alone? Learn to handle yourself. What do you want now?" "Jenny what exactly do you want me to do?" I'm sorry, in customer service? Yes. Am I a human punching bag (even a metaphorical one)? No. Even in a strip club there is a limit to what we are expected to put up with, and if there isn't I'm probably not working there.
    if the dancer is having a bad night, bad mood, off her medication, then friggin stay home!
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    Maybe she has feelings for your friend that were more than dancer/customer?

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    Ok, now, the person who's really not long for the biz is the girl who lost her shit and yelled at a guy for getting dances from another girl.

    Most of the customers I know wouldn't go complain to management, they would brush off an incident like this and just not spend any more money on the offending psycho. Besides, if she does this kind of thing on a regular basis, management knows it. They don't need a customer to tell them; they'll see it themselves or hear it from other girls.

    I personally can't stand behavior like that, but I don't know that I'd complain to management. I'd complain if someone tried to rip me off, though. But it isn't like it's going to fuck up your world if a stripper acts poorly. For crying out loud, it's a stripper in a bar, not your mechanic and not your doctor.

    That being said, or rambled, I think dancers who act like that are completely bush league. Perhaps she was having a bad night. But if I were in a club that tolerated behavior like that, I'd run. No better way to alienate the customers and get a bad rep for the club than having employees who go off on the customers. Unless people are in the mood for the Soup Nazi of strippers or something.

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    I'm inclined to agree with Susan that a dancer shouldn't be in the biz if yelling at guys for getting dances from another dancer.

    Common sense would dictate that a dancer should stay home in the event of a crisis, but we have all had those "I do not want to work but I need some money" nights. You might have had just one or two in your career, but I can almost guarantee at some point it's happened if you've danced for more than, say, a year.

    The customer was right to complain, but I think the behavior merited a warning. She's not ready to be fired, IMO-yet.
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    I agree with Daisy..so many men forget that women have feelings and emotions too, even if they are dancers. I also agree with Jenny..perhaps if the girls started saying something back to the men when they make snide or rude comments about the girls or any of the girls that work there, they would have better sc ettiquit. Of course there's no need to yell as long as your comment was "mean" and "cutting" enough. Good wording Jenny

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    Also, if a guy tried to stick his finger in me or grab my boob, you better believe I'm gonna tell this person where to get the hell off at. They think, for some reason, that since we are strippers, they can try to grab us and treat us like little sex toys. Sorry for ya bub, I'll introduce your face to the bottom of my heel. And this, by the way, is why I'm not in the business anymore..I can't deal with mens' shit they pull. Bleh.

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