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    Default Superior moralistic repubs take porn $$ contributions

    Gee! What kind of porn would Jesus watch?

    While its previous owners considered adult entertainment "immoral," Adelphia Communications Corp., the country's fifth-largest cable television provider, last week became the first to offer hard-core adult films on pay-per-view to its subscribers [...] Viewers can watch such sexually explicit movies in the Hilton and Marriott hotel chains on video services like LodgeNet or on "On Command," which is owned by Liberty Media, formerly a part of AT&T; at home via DirecTV, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp; or via virtually every cable company, including Cox, Time Warner and Comcast [...]

    While the corporations generate millions in profits from providing adult content, their political contributions are often given to those elected, in no small part, because of their stance on "moral values."

    According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Comcast Cable has given millions in political donations since 1998. The national Republican Party committees are its biggest organizational recipient, with donations totaling $851,000. President Bush is its biggest individual recipient with $109,000 in donations.

    Adelphia has given $166,000 to Republican committees, $17,000 to conservative Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., and $12,000 to Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., one of the most conservative members of the Senate.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=478984%26page=1


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    No biggie. Democrats take gun and tobacco money when it's offered. The standard politician will tell you, "Just because they want to give me the money doesn't mean I have to support their policies." Uh-huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    No biggie. Democrats take gun and tobacco money when it's offered. The standard politician will tell you, "Just because they want to give me the money doesn't mean I have to support their policies." Uh-huh.
    The difference is that the democrats really don't advertise themselves as the anti-gun or anti-tobacco party. Sure there are elements in the party that are, but the vast majority are not. It's the GOP that has marketed the democrats as the anti-gun/anti-tobacco party, not the democrats themselves.

    The dominate theme of the GOP is "morals", of which they have none.


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    Here's the part I don't get. When a strip club (or what have you) holds a fund-raising drive and a church (or what have you) refuses the donation, it's a bad thing. So if you take the money you're a hypocrite and if you refuse the money you're uppity and heartless. Can I add that Tom Daschle, my erstwhile Most Hated Public Leech, was deep in the pocket of the notoriously high-polluting tax-dollar-guzzling corporate agriculture world? And here we thought Dems were supposed to be pro-environmentalists. (In other words, all politicians fuck the constituents. The difference is that the Dems swear it's only second base whereas the GOP tells you in advance that they won't respect you in the morning.)

    On another note, don't even get started with the whole Adelphia thing, because that's a rant all by itself. Corporate welfare queen extraordinaire, and yet another company giving outrageous bonuses to the CEO who drove it into the ground and laid off thousands. You think they're going to hire their people back now that they've got all this porn money?
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    Default Re: Superior moralistic repubs take porn $$ contributions

    Yet you completely missed the point where the main basis of the GOP platform of 2004 was morality and the main rant of the right (especially pundits) was that the left has no morals. I find it amusing that the supposedly "superior moralistic" right, has more skeletons in their closet than Jeffery Dahmer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate667
    Yet you completely missed the point where the main basis of the GOP platform of 2004 was morality and the main rant of the right (especially pundits) was that the left has no morals.
    Oh but I did get the point, and offered a corresponding point of my own before tying it all together that politicians are professional assholes. That I pointed out that people will bitch about Republicans no matter what they do was an addition- not a negation- to the asshole factor.
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    While the corporations generate millions in profits from providing adult content, their political contributions are often given to those elected, in no small part, because of their stance on "moral values."
    Fantasy.

    Corporations make cold, calculating decisions with regard to their political donations--in order that they will achieve the maximum benefit when it comes time to lobby influence. This is also why many industries hedge their bets on both sides of the political fence.

    Moral values don't play into the equation with corporate lobbying; it's all about the influence you hope to gain, and how much favor you can curry.
    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

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    Thank you for your articulate response. However, my post wasn't condemning the corporation, now was it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith
    That I pointed out that people will bitch about Republicans no matter what they do was an addition- not a negation- to the asshole factor.
    LOL! I also find it aumisng that you held up crazy stereotypes propagated by the right and then whined about the democrats being hypocritical about them.

    Are elected democrats anti-corporation? No, that is a myth cooked up by the right.

    But thanks for your responses, they were entertaining.


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    I got your point, too. I just disagree with the notion that it's the Republicans who are singularly hypocritical and sanctimonious. I see it everywhere, in both parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate667
    The difference is that the democrats really don't advertise themselves as the anti-gun or anti-tobacco party.
    No, but they advertise themselves as the public health and gun control party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate667
    LOL! I also find it aumisng that you held up crazy stereotypes propagated by the right and then whined about the democrats being hypocritical about them.

    Are elected democrats anti-corporation? No, that is a myth cooked up by the right.
    Oh, I see. It's all stereotypes, propaganda, whining and myth (unless, of course, we're bashing only Republicans). My bad, I had you mistaken for a serious poster. Carry on with the agenda.
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    I don't get this... politicians accepted donations BEFORE they switched to porn, now
    they are supposed to give the money back (AFTER the company decides to put on porn) to prove
    they are moral? First, I guess the assumption is that porn is immoral (I don't agree).
    Second, what if they had gone to porn ten years from now... ? and should politicians that
    accepted money ten years ago give it back now? is there no time-limit? how is a politician
    supposed to know what a company is going to do at some future date? and a politician is
    supposed to be responsible for the morality of what a company does in the future?
    Doesn't make sense to me at all. I agree with Lilith (as usual)... it's silly... just an excuse to
    bash. Now if the money was obtained illegally or accepted illegally or given as a bribe,
    then sure, give it back.

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    I've had adelphia digital cable for over two years (I wish I didn't) they've always had pay per view hard core porn.

    I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myssi
    First, I guess the assumption is that porn is immoral (I don't agree).
    WHOA! I never said that. I don't give a crap about porn. However the "moralistically superior" loony right thinks porn is immoral. FOr God sakes, they think a boob covered with a pastie is the devil's work and will destroy society!

    Quote Originally Posted by myssi
    Second, what if they had gone to porn ten years from now... ? and should politicians that
    accepted money ten years ago give it back now?
    Except they took porn money in the recent election and the GOP is still taking Adelphia's donations. WHOOPS! Pesky facts!


    All I am asking is that if the GOP are going to lie about having phony morals, they should at least have some courage to live up to what they claim to be. Otherwise, they just become laughable hypocrites with no credibility.


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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate667
    All I am asking is that if the GOP are going to lie about having phony morals, they should at least have some courage to live up to what they claim to be. Otherwise, they just become laughable hypocrites with no credibility.
    Awwww...I wouldn't worry about it too much. I am sure that they thoroughly was the money before they use it.

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