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    Does anyone have experience doing paid cam shows? Did you do it from your apartment using a PayPal account, or did you join a service like ImLive.com.... and was it profitable?

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    Sure you can make money doing cam. Just find the right company for you.

    Setting up an account for you alone is harder these days with laws, also Paypal wont take you.

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    I do it solo from home and get customers mainly through chatrooms. Pamela is right about PayPal, they don't like anything that's considered an adult service. I know a lot of girls who had their accounts frozen.

    For the moment other options aren't so hot. I've heard Stormpay is a pain in the ass, and also heard just recently that they're getting away from adult vendors to. Ikobo isn't bad, although their fees are a bit high, the only problem is that they've been unable to accept Mastercard for a couple of months. You can use CCbill, but if I remember correctly they're a huge fee you have to pay (around 8 or 9 hundred bucks) to accept Visa (but you can accept the others for free. Or rather for just their regular user fees).

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    I did cam shows on ifriends for a while. It can pay real good. I got burned out. I personally got tired of being 100% naked and touching myself LOL. But I did some Domina cam shows too. Technically you dont HAVE to do anything you dont wanna or that is personal or whatever, but you make better money if you get nekkid and masturbate. I was making $1000 a week minimum for a while. ifriends takes half of what you make, and has some limits as to what you set as your price per minute. They make it fairly easy to set up a webpage for yourself, and a store to sell items. Their rules/laws aren't too unreasonable and it can be really fun at times to "camwench".

    Give it a try, cant hurt too much
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    I know this is kind of off topic, but does any1 know if there is a way to do webcam without giving your social security #?

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    Not with ANY cam companies i have heard of, and there are alot out there.

    It's not worth the trouble you could get into just to make a few $$$ doing cam.

    Pamela

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8eyespyder
    I know this is kind of off topic, but does any1 know if there is a way to do webcam without giving your social security #?
    Assuming you're referring to doing a PAID webcam, the answer is absolutely no. Every online credit card processing service, whether directly processing customer charges for the webcam model's own online credit card account, or indirectly processing customer charges for the webcam model through a webcam chat host's blanket account, requires that the model's true name, address and social security number be given before these accounts will be established. A major reason for this, of course, is that the online credit card processing services must issue a 1099-MISC to the IRS for the customer money they have collected and paid out to every webcam model at the end of every year.

    In the very near future, even an UNPAID webcam model will be required to list their real name, real address, etc. on her webcam page. This is an outgrowth of the 'Tracy Lords Law', which was originally intended to insure that it would be impossible for other girls under 18 to be able to work in any aspect of the adult entertainment industry as Tracy did. While this law was immediately applied to adult magazines, adult videos etc., the standards regarding how to apply it to adult websites have been rattling around the Justice Dep't for several years. Last year Atty General Ashcroft issued preliminary standards. One provision of those preliminary standards was that 'live' adult content (i.e. a 'live' webcam stream versus posted pictures or posted recorded videos) must be accompanied by proof that the models on camera comply with the Tracy Lords Law. This has been interpreted by entertainment attorneys to mean that the webcam model must basically post their real name, real age, and real address on their webcam page for any potential webcam viewer to see, or risk being charged with a felony violation of Section 2257.

    Besides webcams, models appearing in photos or recorded videos on websites would also be required to give their real names, real addresses, SS#'s and other personal info to the 'Custodian of Records' of that adult website. Under the Tracy Lords Law, anyone authorized to do so by the Justice Dep't is allowed to approach an adult webmaster and request to see the personal info on all of the models appearing on that adult website WITHOUT probable cause, without a warrant, or without any stated reason. This of course flings the door wide open for IRS agents, family court investigators, and a Pandora's Box full of potential interested parties to access personal info on internet models. It was because of the recordkeeping requirements of the Tracy Lords Law (along with outrageously high online credit card processing fees and charges) that I shut down my own pay website last January. According to entertainment attorneys, full compliance with Section 2259 and CYA measures in regard to child pornography laws will lead to adult webmasters having to essentially maintain an online database of personal information regarding ALL models appearing on their websites - a database which can be accessed at any time by 'authorized' gov't officials, but which can arguably also be accessed by hackers.

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    (snip)" Explicit streaming video and live feeds are almost certainly among the kinds of material generically described as "other matter" in the Statute. Therefore, the producer of explicit feeds must in every respect comply with the provisions of Section 2257. Special practical difficulties arise that are distinctive to live feeds with respect to a location for the mandated disclosure statement and for the name or number of the work. The information acquisition and record keeping must go on continuously. Because an approved method of compliance is described neither in the Statute nor in either the existing nor proposed Regulations, the scheme of compliance for those who produce such feeds should be designed in close consultation with a lawyer and a technical expert, and provide for notice all the way through to the destination subscriber."(snip)

    (snip)"Although simple nude, erotic photography without sado-masochism and without sexual conduct (on a spectrum starting from masturbation and reaching to the limits of the imaginable) is, strictly speaking, not within the mandates of Section 2257 and inasmuch as there is no duty to harvest identification documents and information, though the photographer may not successfully be prosecuted as a violation of that Statute, nevertheless any erotic photography of a person under the age of eighteen creates the very serious potential of indictment and conviction for the far more serious child pornography offense. It is not enough in this circumstance to testify that the model looked old enough; It is not enough to testify that the model said he or she was eighteen; It is not enough to testify that the photographer saw an ID document that the defendant half-remembers - not in an age when Section 2257 compliance is the prevalent standard industry practice of competent professional adult content photographers in all erotic photography in the adult market. For "mistake of fact" to work as a defense, it must be both a sincerely held belief and a reasonable belief: Failure to examine and/or to obtain copies of documents, to harvest the other information required, and to maintain those records, will invite the conclusion that the photographer's or webmaster's sincere opinion of the model's age was simply not reasonable and will, moreover, cast doubt on the sincerity of the belief. Finally, ready access to identity information concerning each model may, at the right time, under the right circumstances, with the right investigator, stop a criminal investigation in its tracks - before an arrest takes place, and before the arrest is reported in the press to the ruination of a professional career."(snip)

    (snip)"The producers of adult content video have been around for twenty years, long enough to remember what raids and arrests feel like, and they possess a knowledge base that many webmasters, new to adult entertainment, have yet to acquire. It is a knowledge base that gives reality to the word "risk": It is the knock at the door, the arrival of a squad of agents to execute a warrant, it is the experience of witnessing them go though your home or studio or office rummaging for sometimes hours, and then carting off your computers and scanners and discs and papers and records and server for further inspection at their leisure while your business, income, and expression goes straight to hell. While thus far there have been few obscenity prosecutions arising from the internet; it cannot be fairly assumed that obscenity prosecutions will not resume, and a reasonably cautious webmaster will make content decisions based on an assessment of how he would defend his site against allegations of obscenity where he is located and in all the jurisdictions where his content goes, using the community standards of each."(snip)

    ... thus even though the Tracy Lords Law doesn't technically require that detailed records the real name, real address and SS# of 'non-explicit' internet models be kept, the potential risk to adult webmasters of not being able to prove that EVERY model on their website was 18 in the event of a future bust will essentially require that all adult webmasters collect said personal info from every model and include said personal info in their adult model 'database' - which is then available for viewing by any authorized person or gov't agency without probable cause, without a warrant, and without any stated reason at all.

    This is scary stuff - which is the reason I took down my adult website and stopped doing live webcam to avoid having to get involved with it in any way (as well as to keep my own personal model info out of as many other webmaster's personal info files as possible). It's also distinctly possible that models now appearing on adult websites and adult webcams have already had their personal model info entered into the webmasters' adult model files, and that it's already available for viewing, as adult webmasters attempt to get a 'jump' on Section 2259 requirements suddenly being enforced on internet adult marketers as it already is on adult magazines, adult videos etc.

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    Thanx for ther reply's on the ss#, now I have a way better understanding of why an all that. Oh well, too bad.

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    Do you think there is more money in camming if you use voice chat with it? I have been doing it with no sound, and i'm starting to think sound might increase my pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julzgulz
    Do you think there is more money in camming if you use voice chat with it? I have been doing it with no sound, and i'm starting to think sound might increase my pay.

    I had a lot more demand for sound, and got much more traffic when I promoted sound in my cam room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by julzgulz
    Do you think there is more money in camming if you use voice chat with it? I have been doing it with no sound, and i'm starting to think sound might increase my pay.
    I have made even more money by using a simultaneous 900 phone line rather than the sound option of the webcam host. This allows me to charge them cumming and going LOL !

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    ^^^^ So true! Voice chat kinda sucks. No matter how good the connection always seems to break up at times. Phones and cam greatly increase you're earnings. I have even called them when i did not have an 800 # anymore.

    There is a freature that will let you know they have turned off their caller ID. And i just block my number before dialing.

    Did not sound right. Most caller ID's today tell you the caller knows about a call (or what ever) but you must un-block you're # to enable the call to go through. That means the person has caller ID ON. I chat again, and say you're caller ID is on because i can't block out my number. It works. And i think for all states call blocking is free, at least in Florida it is.

    Like Melonie says, you get more $$ because they call a 900#. IF you call them, charge more for phone and cam!!!! Just let them know first.



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    Do you use a phone sex line to do that?

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    Not me. I call from my work line. It is far too tough to be sitting around trying to look hot for the phone sex guys. I will sign on to cam (when i have done it) at a cam site and use phone.

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    I have been doing webcam shows for about 2 years now

    Making a decent living and enough pay rents and for school

    I work on 2 webcam networks that are reliable pay direct deposit into mybank account every month no need to stand in line with a cheque

    A day for me on 1 of the webcams sites I work on would be 179.08 to 210.69$ YES I included the cents

    I use a Shapr Digital Camcordor with remote control zoom on a small 29.99 tripod and a labtec microphone to conect the camera I use a Dlink Video Capture Device with my p4 computer with 80 gig hard drive. Works Great and the custumers in my room love I can zoom in on thier favorite part during the paid session.

    People ask me why not do something else and find a regular job but they have no idea how HARD WORK is invovled in being a cam model. The webcam sites tell me that the girls who do well on the sites are the ones who treat it like a real job

    work 4 to 8 hours per day set daily targets and interac with thier custumers. So I figure I would try the sites advice it actually WORKED Brought my daily average up by about 20 to 40 dollars a day.

    so now I do from the time I wake up until I go to bed is webcam work trying to maximize the amount of money I can make online without leaving my house. I will not stop until I stop getting a cheque.
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