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    Smiley Do you do this?

    These are a few things I see many of the girls I work with do and from what Ive read here alot of girls here probably do to.

    1. When it's slow do you sit at the bar, or playing the video games at the bar, even when customers are alone?

    2. When you see a customer come in do you look at how they are dressed or what their apperance may be and judge their ability to have money based on that?

    3. If you see a guy walk in wearing a sweatshirt and jeans and one walk in wearing a business suit do you lock in on the businessman?

    4. When you're on stage and you have no customers do you sit there looking depressed or do you perform as if you have customers 2 deep at your table. The attitude one shows in that circumstance shows more than when you have tons of customers.

    Ive seen way too many girls do these things and quite often theyre the ones complaining about not making any money. When I first started girls would tell me who to dance for and who not to dance for or talk to. When I stopped listening to them my income went up as theirs went down or stayed stagnant.

    You really limit yourself when you judge people based on what your perceptions are in regards to them. The guy in the sweatshirt who looks like he hasn't shaved could very well have a bigger bankroll than the guy in the business suit. If you don't treat every customer the same you will never make any money and you set yourself up to fail.

    If you treat every customer like theyre a vip member you will see your income go up dramatically. The naysayers who continue to do what I talked about in 1-4 will continue to struggle and whine and yes they will accuse you of doing extras etc, when in fact you can be the cleanest dancer in the club and make more than the one who breaks all the rules. Presenting yourself as a professional helps make a customer feel at ease and makesit more fun and profitable for both of you.
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    I am sooo glad you posted this I feel the excate same way. When its slow in my club which it tends to get on the weekdays I mean come on its a tuesday for goshsake.

    I usually still do my rountine i just keep my clothes on or I try out new pole moves and smile tons. I recently made myself not look at myself in the mirror because believe it or not the men see you staring at yourself and that isn't too cute.

    If there are only a handful of guys I make my rounds and chat up about 2 songs and move on and I always tell them well when you are ready to have some fun come to my tip rail or look for me and we can play in the VIP room. I smile and hug them bye before I go and I shake their hand and tell them again my name.

    And this goes a long way believe it or not its crazy how much men just love being catered to and taken care of that is why they are there right? If they want to be ignored or see us sitting watching t.v or chatting on our cells then they will go home and watch there girlfriends or wife.

    I was once new and didnt know any better so i would listen to them and sit down like they did and talked to only the high rollers. I never sat in their lap just squatted down in front of them and ask would youlike a lap dance and wondered why i never made any money. So I changed my sales pitch and now sit in there lap if they say its okay to and chat for a few. I am a clean dancer and don't feel that at this time I need to do extras.
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    1. When I sat at the bar and played games, there was absolutely not one single customer in the establishment.

    2. I do look at their appearance. The only way I wont talk to a customer is if he smells and is dirty, has greasy hair, looks as if he hasnt showered for days. You know the type.

    3. I go for both.

    4. I always did a great job on stage whether the house was packed or nearly empty. It really does show if you arent excited about your work.

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    Ive noticed the men with $$ tend to come in not looking like they have $$.. watches can tell a lot. Guys in business suits can work everywhere from a McDonalds manager to a car sales man to a lawyer... business suits for some reason tend to turn me off.. kinda like guys in short jogging shorts.. gross. I danced for a surgeon the other nite and he did not look like he had money... jeans and a sweatshirt with nikes...

    I see a lot of girls sit around and i catch myself sitting on a couch and 2 seconds later i get up and walk in the back. Ill look and see 5-6 girls sitting together and it just doesnt look right. if you want to chit chat.. go in back...

    My sales pitch is pretty simple.. walk up - say hi, ask how they are, exchange names, ask for dance... if they say no depending on my mood and their tone ill stay and chat a min or move on. For some reason this "Wanna Dance" routine works at our club. Or Ill joke with a guy that ive watch 10 girls in a row go up to and say.. "wanna skip the routine and go play?" I get a laugh and a yes or no.. breaks the ice to chat for a min if no and theyll usually get a dance.

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    Quilty of 2 and 3. I have even checked the type of cars in the parking lot. Gosh how pathetic that seems now.

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    1. When it's slow do you sit at the bar, or playing the video games at the bar, even when customers are alone? - We are not allowed to sit at the bar unless we are with a customer and we don't have video games.

    2. When you see a customer come in do you look at how they are dressed or what their apperance may be and judge their ability to have money based on that? - I try not to judge, but in my experience, the nicer dressed guys usually have a little more cash.

    3. If you see a guy walk in wearing a sweatshirt and jeans and one walk in wearing a business suit do you lock in on the businessman? - No, I lock in on him based on if he makes eye contact with me, if he is buying drinks, tipping, etc...

    4. When you're on stage and you have no customers do you sit there looking depressed or do you perform as if you have customers 2 deep at your table. The attitude one shows in that circumstance shows more than when you have tons of customers. - I perform the same if there are 30 guys or 3 guys.... I love performing on stage.



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    I never stereotype customers. Girls who do this act as if the guys bite.

    Unless a dancer is prejudiced, there is NO reason why she should avoid certain customers. And a person who is prejudiced or uncomfortable with certain types of people should not be dancing.

    The only exception to this is if a guy is giving a dancer good eye contact and above average tips on stage. Then she should approach this guy first BEFORE working the rest of the customers.

    Amy Lynne, you make some very important points.

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    Ive noticed so many girls that do these things. I'm going to add about 10 or so more things Ive noticed. I think alot of us do disservice to ourselves by how we treat customers.

    If we treat them like theyr vultures or dirtbags or they just want in our panties (some Im sure do) then we are assuring ourselves of not making any money.

    If you treat every customer like a VIP you will see your income dramatically increase, practically overnight.
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    1. When it's slow do you sit at the bar, or playing the video games at the bar, even when customers are alone?
    If I've already approached them and been rejected, yes (although not video games, never video games - you look like a little old lady at a slot machine). Absolutely will not sit with customers for free, unless I am pretty damn sure that it's an investment or they are incredibly fucking charming. If I've talked to every customer in the place I hang out with the waitstaff. They are generally the cool people.

    2. When you see a customer come in do you look at how they are dressed or what their apperance may be and judge their ability to have money based on that?
    Never judge how much a guy will spend by anything except how much he spends.

    3. If you see a guy walk in wearing a sweatshirt and jeans and one walk in wearing a business suit do you lock in on the businessman?
    Yes, but not because I assume that he has more money, total, like in the bank. Because, really, who ganders around in a suit for anything except work? A sweatshirt and jeans are perfectly appropriate leisure attire for most strip clubs. When guys come in sweatshirts they tend to look like they want to move in, set up a little cot in the corner and live there. As a result they want girls who will spend a lot more time with them bang off than I will. They guys that come in wearing suits are generally on there way somewhere - you get the "power-club" experience.

    4. When you're on stage and you have no customers do you sit there looking depressed or do you perform as if you have customers 2 deep at your table. The attitude one shows in that circumstance shows more than when you have tons of customers.
    I don't think I sell anything based on my stage - like ever. Except once when my manager let me go on wearing my feetie pyjamas. Nothing gets attention in a strip club like flannel pyjamas with feet. It's just so weird looking. So I can probably safely say that this doesn't matter in the slightest hereabouts.

    Although - just small point - I tend to go around and nickel and dime all night. $100 here, $100 there, kind of thing. I once worked with a friend who wouldn't do it - she just waited for the whale. Our weekly averages generally came out about the same, even though I made more money than her most nights. It's nice to work with friends who share customers. I would share my tadpoles with her, and she would share her big ones with me. It was fun, and it definitely advantaged us both. But I would DIE of nervousness - and boredom - if I just sat around all week waiting for someone to spend $5000.00. But she thought that it would always come in, and there was no need to work harder for the same money.
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    Cool it, girl. She said she'd do that after she'd talked to every guy in the place. No namecalling necessary, either.

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    AmyLynne - please do not follow posters around and post negative things like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej
    so rather than spend time with someone who may pay you money youd rather go hang with the waitstaff cause theyre the cool people. Wow. Another primadonna.
    That was totally unnecessary.
    I have now seen a few posts of yours where you have personaly insulted someone.
    If you don't like someone on here then IGNORE them .There is no reason for personal insults and name-calling.
    If you disagree with someone then fine, but calling someone a 'primadonna' is out of line.
    Tell me who you are again to judge? Please keep your negative comments to yourself from now on.


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    Yeah, the primadonna thing is TIRED.

    I've been here what? 3 years? Go travelling for a month, come back, and there's some newbie who just showed up last week calling everybody primadonnas

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    well my thread is designed and written to help some of my fellow strippers out, maybe help them make more money not to go after anyone but if people want to keep the same bad habits who am I to stop them. So Ill take the high ground and be a positive influence.
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    Don't take this the wrong way, but there are a lot of dancers on this site with more tenure in the business than yourself. Attempting to present yourself as an expert on the industry and insulting those who may have a different style at work than yourself will endear you to no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej
    well my thread is designed and written to help some of my fellow strippers out, maybe help them make more money not to go after anyone but if people want to keep the same bad habits who am I to stop them. So Ill take the high ground and be a positive influence.
    Congrads! You are now number one(and only) on my ignore list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej
    well my thread is designed and written to help some of my fellow strippers out, maybe help them make more money not to go after anyone but if people want to keep the same bad habits who am I to stop them. So Ill take the high ground and be a positive influence.
    guess what!!! You are not helping!

    And juding by your attitude, there is NO WAY you are a top earner at the club, Your advice is not only inaccurate, but arrogant.

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    i agree that some of my posts have been too harsh. Please chalk it up to frustration when i see so many not making the money they could be making.

    I apologize for the harshness and rudeness and will try to be more positive. I respect that people have differences in opinions and ideas and some have more experience than I do but I still feel like in the time Ive done this Ive seen a few things work better that I have tried and been successful at.

    Again Im sincerely sorry for the harsh tones.
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    please refrain from negativity. It doesn't look professional and isn't helpful when wanting to have a positive, thought provoking discussion. if you disagree please say so without sniping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    Don't take this the wrong way, but there are a lot of dancers on this site with more tenure in the business than yourself. Attempting to present yourself as an expert on the industry and insulting those who may have a different style at work than yourself will endear you to no one.
    What she said.

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    1. When it's slow do you sit at the bar, or playing the video games at the bar, even when customers are alone?

    Nope, if I've talked to every guy in the bar, and nobody is buying or even wants to talk, I go in the dressing room and read for ten minutes. I work day shifts a lot, so it's entirely possible that an hour after opening we only have eight customers. And if I go up to all of them and say "Hiya, how ya doing? Mind if I sit with you a moment?" and all of them say no, I don't stay on the floor.

    Ohh, how I used to hate my old manager that would yell at us for not talking to non-paying customers! That drove me nuts, if I've talked to every guy in the bar for five minutes, and none of them are buying, I'm not going to go and talk to them for free. >.<

    2. When you see a customer come in do you look at how they are dressed or what their apperance may be and judge their ability to have money based on that?

    Nah, too many guys in suits who don't spend, or spend miserly.

    3. If you see a guy walk in wearing a sweatshirt and jeans and one walk in wearing a business suit do you lock in on the businessman?

    No, and I'll comment about the guys just walking in - a lot of times, when a guy just walked in or is on his first drink, I'll ask if he just got there. If yes, I'll say "great! welcome, I hope you have a great time, I'll check on you later." I don't like to hit customers up when they first walk in the door, most need at least ten minutes or so to "get into things."

    4. When you're on stage and you have no customers do you sit there looking depressed or do you perform as if you have customers 2 deep at your table. The attitude one shows in that circumstance shows more than when you have tons of customers.

    I always dance like I'm having an awesome time, and get full nude, even if the club doesn't require it. Three times I've had a completely random guy come up during my first stage set and say "you're great, let's go into a private room when you're done."
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