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    So, I was in my favorite club last night, and one of the waitresses who had been in a pissy mood all night pulled this stupid stunt- get this- when my ATF is on stage during her set, this waitress pulls her aside, like literally off the stage, during her song.

    I assume she is talking about the VIP I reserved a couple of hours prior. Nope, in fact, it's to loudly inform my ATF what a crappy tipper I am. Now, I like to tip, but I'm not usually in the mood to tip pissed-off waitresses who deliver crummy service. I was glad my ATF told me what the waitress said, but I'm also mad that the waitress chose to bad-mouth me to the dancers about my tipping.

    Here's the prices at my club and what I tip every time. Ladies, would you consider me a crappy tipper? My club is rather blue-collar and girls seem to have a hard time getting some of these guys to tip, so I thought I was doing pretty well comparatively.

    LD's are $20 per song or $30 per 2 songs. The first few dances I get, I usually don't even have the girl dance. I usually just cuddle and talk. The first few dances I tip $5/dance every time. Later dances, when I'm getting the <cough> extreme mileage I come to expect from ATF, I tip $20/dance.

    VIP is $150 an hour. I tip $20-$40 after the hour is over to the girl every time.

    My drinks are $3.50 each. I always pay $6 total to the waitress (so, basically double).

    Dancer drinks are $15 each. I always lay a $20 for them and I never get change.

    Cover is $5. I always tip the door girl $3-$5 on top of that.

    I give the guy in the bathroom $5-$15 per visit depending on length of stay.

    So, am I a cheap bastard? I know I am not an especially wealthy individual and the $ is not exactly flowing like water, but when I've dropped over $1000 in this club in three week's time, I expect the waitresses not to bad-mouth me to the girls about how cheap I am.

    Ladies, am I honestly tipping enough? I hope this waitress was totally out of line? I'm kind of new to the SC scene and would like some feedback.

    PS - This club is in Kentucky, not SF or New York or anything, if you are wondering why the prices are so low. The cost of living is very low here in the Ohio Valley. Also another reason why I thought I was tipping pretty well.

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    I think you are being very generous with your tipping. When I dance for a guy I rarely get tipped after the dances, and I find it very aggravating when a guy asks for change. Especially since these guys are mainly all creeps.

    Your tips to the waitress I think are great tips. She only needs 15% anyway, but some waitresses in these places expect more. Girls at mine expect 20% or more. You just had a bad waitress, that's all.

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    Dude, In the clubs I got to you would be nominated for customer of the year for tipping like that. You caught a girl on a bad day-she probably should have stayed home.
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    If anything you are probably the best tipper in the entire club. I wouldn't worry too much about that waitress because everyone else knows how generous you really are. In other places with that kind of tipping, you'd get a VIP card or something. For the record I don't think many of the other patrons at my club bother to tip at all, its no wonder the waitresses and dancers remember who I am.

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    I think you sound like a good tipper, especially for dancer who frequently don't get tipped at all. 2.50 on a 3.50 drink is good - the waitress obviously has issues. Even if you were a terrible tipper they could talk about you after you leave like normal girls rather than going up to her stage (?). I probably still wouldn't have told you about it (like for what?), but I already got severely told off for evincing sympathy for bitchy employees, so now she shall have to be killed. We will hang her body over the bar as an example.
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    Tipping after dances is always exceptional, not many guys do it. And it's sooo appreciated when it happens.

    You are tipping more than enough. I would be impressed by your tipping if I were a waitress.
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    Seems rather odd to me, I wonder what other customers tip there?? Here, most guys tip a dollar or two for their drinks, which are $5-$8.50, depending on what they order. Dancer drinks are $10, once again most guys tip a dollar or two if they buy 'em separately.

    Rooms start at $125/half hour, rooms have free drinks, so most guys tip the waitress between $5-$20 - and the dancer $0-$100 - but the dancer gets a cut of the room, so I don't get too upset when the guy doesn't tip for a room.

    Dances are $30, I'd say a bit less than half the guys tip. Is always appreciated, but it is already pricey, sooo I'm always grateful whever it may be.
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    You sound like an awesome tipper! The ladies here are def correct in saying most men do not tip for dances. Tipping is voluntary and means a lot to us. I think that you are over-tipping the waitress and with an attitude like that, she's lucky she got a tip at all!!

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    Just for basis of comparison:

    Quote Originally Posted by 9_World_Series
    LD's are $20 per song or $30 per 2 songs. The first few dances I get, I usually don't even have the girl dance. I usually just cuddle and talk. The first few dances I tip $5/dance every time. Later dances, when I'm getting the <cough> extreme mileage I come to expect from ATF, I tip $20/dance.
    $20-25 a song here. I usually tip nothing, but I'll sometimes tip an extra $5 after three. Some clubs upstate have $10 dances, I'll usually pay $40 for three. Tips go up for exceptional dances or favorite dancers.

    My drinks are $3.50 each. I always pay $6 total to the waitress (so, basically double).
    For me usually $1-$1.50 per drink.

    Dancer drinks are $15 each. I always lay a $20 for them and I never get change.
    Dancer drinks run on a graduated schedule here starting at $10 (the more you pay the more time you get with her). The whole thing is confusing, so I don't buy them.

    Cover is $5. I always tip the door girl $3-$5 on top of that.
    $5. No door girl here. But I'll tip $1 at clubs that have one.

    I give the guy in the bathroom $5-$15 per visit depending on length of stay.
    I loathe piss monkeys, but I'll tip $1 per trip to the bathroom. Anything he can do for me, I learned to do by the time I was four.

    So, am I a cheap bastard?
    I'd say if anything, you're being way more generous than is neccessary. Tipping is good protocol up to a point. Beyond that I think you're throwing your money away, but hey that's just this cheap bastard's opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9_World_Series
    So, am I a cheap bastard?
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    I hope this waitress was totally out of line?
    She's lucky no one else overheard her or she could have been fired. She also could have cost a lot of people business. There's "a guy in the bathroom"! He doesn't even have a title, he's just "that guy in the bathroom". Anyone who'd tip THAT guy MUST be generous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen
    There's "a guy in the bathroom"! He doesn't even have a title, he's just "that guy in the bathroom". Anyone who'd tip THAT guy MUST be generous.
    Hell, i'll tip him out of sheer pity. He's got what has to be the shittiest job in existance. What GUY wants to work at a STRIP CLUB and have nothing to look at but a bunch of guys taking a piss?

    That is a poor soul, indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    Hell, i'll tip him out of sheer pity. He's got what has to be the shittiest job in existance. What GUY wants to work at a STRIP CLUB and have nothing to look at but a bunch of guys taking a piss?

    That is a poor soul, indeed.
    Yeah, that's why I try to be as generous as possible with him; I mean, I know his name now and we talk a bit when I go in the bathroom. Admittedly, it's a little creepy having this guy hanging about and trying to ask me questions about the girls while I'm trying to take a whiz, but hey, whatever. If i'm in this particular strip club there's not much point about being embarrassed about anything. Screw the waitresses, That guy deserves a tip. Supposedly, he doesn't even get salaried so he works purely on "piss tips"

    Grrrr, I am still so mad about this waitress talking sh*t about me to the ATF. If she is not fired by the time I get back, all of her tips next time I'm giving right to the dancers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9_World_Series
    Yeah, that's why I try to be as generous as possible with him; I mean, I know his name now and we talk a bit when I go in the bathroom. Admittedly, it's a little creepy having this guy hanging about and trying to ask me questions about the girls while I'm trying to take a whiz, but hey, whatever. If i'm in this particular strip club there's not much point about being embarrassed about anything. Screw the waitresses, That guy deserves a tip. Supposedly, he doesn't even get salaried so he works purely on "piss tips"

    Grrrr, I am still so mad about this waitress talking sh*t about me to the ATF. If she is not fired by the time I get back, all of her tips next time I'm giving right to the dancers...
    I think it sort in between cute and unnecessary that you are worried about the waitress tarnishing you in the eyes of the dancer. Don't worry about it. Also - very few waitresses would bitch about a 2.50 tip on a 3.50 drink - that is weird. It is a good tip. So your girl MAY have misunderstood. But - I would recommend using a different waitress/sitting at the bar/sitting in another section rather than just not tipping at all.
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    I think you tip way too much. Think of all the other things there are to spend money on other than strip clubs. If you have enough money to spend $15 dollars to take a piss, I suggest you donate some of it to curing breast cancer or something more useful. I used to get pissed off when 25 cents were required to use the restroom in fast-food restaurants, but then again I make $7 an hour.

    Tell all the customers sitting at her tables to give her zero tip and see what she does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexymrJonny
    I think you tip way too much. Think of all the other things there are to spend money on other than strip clubs. If you have enough money to spend $15 dollars to take a piss, I suggest you donate some of it to curing breast cancer or something more useful.
    I knew this was going to cause confusion!

    When I said I tip the bathroom attendant $5-$15 per visit, I meant per visit to the strip club, not per visit to the bathroom. If I could afford to tip him $15 every time I took a whiz, I'd be a rich man. I just meant he gets $5-$15 for the whole night (3-8 hours).

    I have been reconsidering this tipping thing. I'm sure not going to go super overboard now that one waitress has been rude. I'm going to start to somewhat decrease tipping others at the club (door girl, bathroom guy, waitresses) and slightly increase my tipping of the girls themselves. I believe this will get me better "service" in the end.

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    I think you are a great tipper! If only more people were like you...

    But, is there any way your ATF was being sarcastic?



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    Your tipping is above and beyond the call of duty.. which will occasionally result in situations like you have encountered.

    You were just tag-teamed by a pair of gold-diggers, nothing more. They'll do this when they smell a big tipper and think they can pull one over on him. The pull-aside in front of you was an act. Your ATF being 'nice' enough to mention it to you was also an act.

    There are a lot of slow-points during the year where money just isn't coming in very well. In the SC dynamic, some personality types will do this ritual of trying to milk dry the better customers. It happens here very often and such performance art accompanies a false notion that the bigger spender just isn't spending enough.

    I'd cut back on your tipping slightly... maybe $10-$20 for VIP's, and cut the waitress off nearly entirely ($3.50 drink? Throw only 4 bucks down)... but the restroom valet you should continue to tip regularly. Any guy that spends his whole night locked up with the sights, sounds and smells of the men's bathroom earns every penny. If any future acts surround your cut-back, just tell them that since you've been labeled a poor tipper already, you could be saving a ton of cash without any difference... anything unpleasant, mention you've been to other clubs that you are thinking of visiting instead.
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    I don't tip a crappy, pissy waitress either

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    WS, come to my club! That you care about the dancers makes you a great customer. Your personality counts. I give the best dances I can to known tippers because they deserve it.

    About the waitress, shit. This happens to me often. If one of my customers doesn't tip for drinks, I get pulled aside and am asked to pay her. Hah! And then, here's one of my better experiences: a customer ordered a few drinks, which weren't served in a timely manner, so he left. I was expected to pay. I didn't because I didn't order the damn drinks.

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