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    Hi fellas. I am a dancer and would like to know the least offensive way of asking for a tip. My customers don't know the etiquette. I would hate to make them feel as if they are just money. I do appreciate most of them as human beings and do not want to belie that sentiment. I do not want them to feel used.

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    I have bills to pay.

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    Hmmm...I've never asked for a tip before. I just hope that most of the time they tip cause it's common sense!

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    There is no inoffensive way to ask for a tip. That's not to say you don't deserve one. I don't know what's customary in your club so I'ts difficult to offer suggestions. Tipping, of course, is a way of showing appreciation for good service.
    I tip when I feel it's deserved. How often and the amount depends on the price structure of the club and the dancer involved. If a dancer askes me for a tip after we are through I will give her a something but she's pretty much off my list for future dances.

    There are a lot of variables depending on the club. Have you asked the other girls you work with about this?
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    I've never felt compelled to ask for a tip, because most of the clubs I've worked have had good enough dance prices that I feel I'm getting enough. Even though the new club I started at takes 1/3 of the VIP room, that still means at worst (funny money 10% cut, customer doesn't cover host's tip) my take is $320 for an hour. That is totally acceptable.

    But what about the girls who get, like, $90 out of a $250 private room in clubs that take a huge cut? Yes, the guy's already paid a lot, but the dancer gets comparatively little of the total, so is it inappropriate for her to let a customer know about her take and how she'd appreciate a tip in that case? Or if she only gets to keep $10 out of a $20 lapdance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    But what about the girls who get, like, $90 out of a $250 private room in clubs that take a huge cut? Yes, the guy's already paid a lot, but the dancer gets comparatively little of the total, so is it inappropriate for her to let a customer know about her take and how she'd appreciate a tip in that case? Or if she only gets to keep $10 out of a $20 lapdance?
    I don't think it's inappropriate at all for the dancer to make sure the customer understands the price structure and dancer/club breakdown. To be honest, I always ask if I'm in a new club. If a club is getting a large proportion of the ld fee I will tip accordingly. Personaly, I wouldn't do a VIP if the dancer was seeing anything less than 50 or 60% of it. I'd rather just buy individual LD's and see the dancer get a larger chunk of the cash. Again, it's a slippery slope. There are definitely some clubs where tipping may be an essential factor in a dancer having a good night or a bad one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    Hi fellas. I am a dancer and would like to know the least offensive way of asking for a tip. My customers don't know the etiquette.
    I suppose to answer this question more thoroughly, I'd have to know under what circumstances are you asking for a tip? Is this a tip for your stage show? Or a tip after a dance?

    As for situations where management is taking a high percentage of the price of a private dance/CR, I think the best "tip" that I could give dancers in those clubs is to not work in them. If I've had an experience at a club where I've had multiple dancers asking for tips on top of the dance price, I can assure you it will probably be my last visit to that place.
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    I agree with most of what Yoda and D/C have said. It depends on what the tip is for, tipping the girls on stage, yes I take plenty of ones, and always try and make a point of tipping the girls when they are up there, the only exception is if she, in the past has been some kind of A-hole with me, then I figure she has burned that bridge and I don't feel as compelled to do it. As far as after a number of L/D or C/R I figure I have already spent a pretty good amount of money and generally you get most of it, so I don't need to add more to that, I may if I really liked what you did, but if you ask for more and sometimes it almost seems to come across like a demand then as both have said you are probably off my list for the future and might be on that previously mentioned one. As far as the "well the club takes most of it" thing, that is not our fault, that is between you and the club, like a lot of other issues, IE "the club makes us do stage sets no matter what" or "we hate that dollar dance" These things are not our fault/probelm, if they turn out to be the case, then as D/C said then the tip is go somewhere else

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    The reason I ask is that many out-of-towners tip. You should see my face light up when they pull out an extra something.

    Most of what I earn comes from tips. My cut is $8/song, $30/VIP, $60/champagne. I work in a nice upper-scale club. This is common. I can either accept it or leave. I choose to stay.

    Whenever I am asked for a VIP, the hurt must show in my face. I make more doing $10 dances on the floor, though the VIP room is much, much more comfortable than both the floor and the champagne. Because I am new and have a bad poker face, the custy's ask why I look so sad.

    Again, because I am new and have a bad poker face, I tell them my cut ... to their astonishment. The out-of-towners give me an extra $50-$100. This is the part where I lose my breath. Once more, because I am new and have a bad poker face, I ask, "This is too much. I can't accept it." After he tells me that I'm "worth it," I take it.

    This is not a tactic and should never be. My poker face will go up eventually and I will not spill problems with my cut to the customers. It's not their problem.

    I guess I should just cross my fingers for generous customers and dance my best, tip or not.

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    This sounds like yet another club extorting money out of a dancer because they can. If you can make more money doing floor dances, try doing those mostly. Most customers will tip you if they feel the dances you gave them are truly outstanding. Asking them to tip, will possibly cost you their future business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedZ28
    This sounds like yet another club extorting money out of a dancer because they can. If you can make more money doing floor dances, try doing those mostly. Most customers will tip you if they feel the dances you gave them are truly outstanding. Asking them to tip, will possibly cost you their future business.
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    If you ask me for a tip after a LD, then you're probably not going to get it.

    The reason that you only got 1 dance is that I didn't enjoy it.

    If I got multiple dances, it means that I enjoyed your company and dances and am probably going to tip you above the normal fees anyways, so no need to ask.

    As I've previously posted in another thread, I usually tip an extra $20 to good dancers on a 3 for $100 set. Sometimes it could be 2 sets with the same dancer during the night and she could be looking at $40 in extra tips.

    Anyways that's my 2 cents or 2 Jacksons depending on your perspective.

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    I would avoid asking for tips after giving dances. I think it's more likely to work against you, and leave the customer with a bad feeling about you. Sometimes, I have intended to give a dancer an extra tip, and when they ask for it, I decide not to. I agree with calif visitor in that getting extra dances is the tip, and when the customer decides to stop, they have generally reached the limit of their spending with you, and if you ask for more, they can feel like you are trying to bleed them dry.
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    In an ice cream shop down my street called "Coldstone", the workers stop and sing everytime someone tips them. You should see how much they make in tips.

    Maybe you could do something similiar. Reward the people who actually do tip and try to make sure people know about it. Not something crazy, like an extra kiss on the cheek or something.

    And I agree that it is a huge turn off when you blatantly ask for the tip. It rips the fantasy to shreds and reminds them that you are only getting money out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    Most of what I earn comes from tips. My cut is $8/song, $30/VIP, $60/champagne. I work in a nice upper-scale club. This is common. I can either accept it or leave. I choose to stay.
    You don't tell us in your post what the customer's price is for these dances so I can't tell if your deal is good or bad. In any event, I probably a good idea to work on that poker face. Showing disspleasure when a customer offers to spend money on you is never a good thing. If it was me, I wouldn't ask you to do a VIP if it looked like you where going to make more money doing regular dances.

    I've had lots of dancers mention to me that out-of-town guys tend to tip more. The local guys know how everything works in a particular club where the traveling guys may be afraid of being considered cheap and getting nothing of value on their visit to a new club.

    I stand by my original thought. There is no good way to ask for a tip. Your best bet, since you have accepted the pricing structure at you club. Is to also accept tips graciously from those who offer and also accept graciously from those who choose to pay at list price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us
    You don't tell us in your post what the customer's price is for these dances so I can't tell if your deal is good or bad. In any event, I probably a good idea to work on that poker face. Showing disspleasure when a customer offers to spend money on you is never a good thing. If it was me, I wouldn't ask you to do a VIP if it looked like you where going to make more money doing regular dances.
    $10/dance, $50/VIP, $100/champagne in a city of over 1 million in a club where on the night shift the dancers are 8+. Mgmt could make a killing if the VIP price were raised. I stay at this club because the hotels send their guests here.

    I love out-of-towners. It's not about the tip. They tend to be better company.

    I talk to the customers for at least 10 minutes before dancing is mentioned. They usually bring it up first. So if I mention my cut, it's that I was asked and I feel as if we have a good rapport.

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    It really sounds like you are taking the right approach in this situation. You may just have to accept the fact that some guys aren't going to tip no matter what. At any rate, I wouldn't be shy about working the price breakdown into the conversation in whatever way you can. Most guys feel that the clubs already make plenty of money. The hard part for the dancer can be convincing them that those "sticker prices" don't go directly into your pocket. Use your personality to get them on your side.

    Your club's price structure is very different from what I've experienced in the Northeast. One club I frequent charges $30 for a topless dance and the house gets $10 of that. They also charge $130 for a fifteen minute Champagne room-the dancer gets $100. Depending on how the DJ is cutting songs on a given night, the C-room is a better deal for both the customer and the dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us
    Your club's price structure is very different from what I've experienced in the Northeast. One club I frequent charges $30 for a topless dance and the house gets $10 of that. They also charge $130 for a fifteen minute Champagne room-the dancer gets $100. Depending on how the DJ is cutting songs on a given night, the C-room is a better deal for both the customer and the dancer.
    I am being really ripped off! My VIPs and champagnes are 1/2 hour. No wonder the out-of-towners tip outrageously. They probably come in expecting to blow a load and discover that the prices are lower than a video rental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us
    There is no inoffensive way to ask for a tip. That's not to say you don't deserve one. I don't know what's customary in your club so I'ts difficult to offer suggestions. Tipping, of course, is a way of showing appreciation for good service.
    I tip when I feel it's deserved. How often and the amount depends on the price structure of the club and the dancer involved. If a dancer askes me for a tip after we are through I will give her a something but she's pretty much off my list for future dances.

    There are a lot of variables depending on the club. Have you asked the other girls you work with about this?

    EXACTLY!

    There really is no inoffensive way to ask for a tip. I personally never ask for one. I feel that if a custy wants to tip extra on top of the LD price then that's great. I hate it when I'll hear a girl say to a custy "How about a tip... " with a passion.

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    You shouldn't ask for a tip, a customer should just give it and not be told to give it.

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