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    do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    After viewing the "raise your hand if you make less than 200$ shift" thread. It made me wonder... Is it just me or some girls just lie about how much they make in a night?!

    Let me explain: Sometimes when I ask certain girls (that I consider work friends) how was their night, they tell me "Good, I made 700$" and I'm thinking; "700$!!! I had to hustle my ass off for 500$ or 400$ and I was just as busy as them. I mean I didn't stop! My feet are killing me!

    Of course this could be explained by a really great custy but come on, these girls always seem to make a 100$ or 200$ more than me! And I know (or at least I'm pretty sure) they are clean.

    Now I know I should'nt compare myself to others and that asking what someone made is rude, but I dont ask for the amount of $$ they just tell me. Besides who's not curious about that. The "raise your hand..." thread proved it!

    So this my question; Are these girls full of shit? If so, why? Or are they just better hustlers than me? What's the deal here? And do you think some girls lie about their earnings?
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    Girls lie about their earnings for the obvious reasons - that (right or wrongly) in this particular industry your self-worth and your perceived worth are tied up in how much money you make. So yes, they lie. Yes, some girls here lie. There is no way to know, and really no reason to concern yourself with it. Ultimately, it doesn't matter. You are working your ass off, etc., meeting your own potential - other girls' potential has little to do with it.
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    You've obviously missed the new advertising campaign:

    Stripper Shit: It's not just for customers anymore.

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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    I think lots of girls do. I remember having terribly shitty nights. The club will be nearly empty and someone will always say their night was simply "fabulous". Then, there are cases when its absolutely true. I think dancers who have "regulars" bank the most. And, I tend to believe them when they say they have banked for the night. I know when I was dancing at my home club about 75% of my money was due to my "regulars". It's probably best not to be concerned with other peoples earnings, it can sometimes make you unfocused.
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    And, sometimes it's just the luck of the draw. One guy tipped me $800 on stage and another tipped me $500 on another day. These things happened but not often......not to me anyways. Sometimes, you get lucky for the night, so maybe you friends just got lucky.
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    Well they're lucky a lot! I don't know why they just dont buy a lottery ticket!! Seriously, I don't give it that much thought but I was wondering what your views are on it.
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    People just like to brag Celeste...........other than this forum. I never discuss my wages. If asked at work by my co worker, I give a very general non chalant (sp) it's sucks in here tonight or a it's been okay.........
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    and if they were telling the truth, so what?

    If you are happy with what you are making (and you should be), then that's all that matters.

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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    Smile, nod, know in your head that a large percentage of what you hear is probably bullshit, and move on.

    They probably ARE exaggerating at least part of the time and if you let the numbers get into your head too much it can drag down your confidence and effect YOUR sales, so don't pay much attention to it except where it's useful to you (like determining good shifts to work or something).
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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    you never know, someone could be thinking '"$400??" I had to hustle my ass off and left with $20'. anyway, I can't tell for certain about your situation, but I believe you that it looks strange. I think a lot of girls exaggerate and I don't know what they get out of it. But I don't like when people ask me. If you're doing better than they are they might try to mess you up or cramp your style. If you're doing worse they may look down on you. I wouldn't even say "how was your night?" or "slow night" I don't see how that can possibly help you mentally with your hustle. What if you're doing great and you find others complaining that it's not a good enough night, trying to downplay it with their stripper shit, or say it's a great night for them when the place is almost empty? That can lower your morale.

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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    A LARGE amount of dancers "exaggerate" their earnings.

    First off, many dancers don't work STEADILY, meaning they don't put in a full weeks work on a regular basis. They "pop" in to work during an event or busier time and tell you what they made on a good night but fail to tell you what they make EVERY night.

    Personally I don't feel there is anything to hide. EVERY dancer who works regularly has nights of $100 or less I don't care how good a hustler she is because clubs just don't have enough business, or the "right types" of customers to justify high earnings every night of the month.

    As was said above dancers worth is measured by how much in demand they are by male customers and many dancers don't want to look like men don't want them so they stretch the truth.

    Much of this comes from lack of dancer training, and dancers not treating this job as a serious career.

    You can tell how much girls make in the long run, because let's face it, this business has slowed down a lot over the last 6-7 years, and in many clubs you can see how many dances are actually being sold.

    A lot of these girls are saying guys give them money every night just for sitting and you know that doesn't happen on a regular basis.

    Some of these $500+ girls haven't even made $100 AFTER tip outs half the time and I'd bet money on it.

    Take what they say with a grain of salt.

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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    Sometimes I've lied. I'll raise my hand and admit that. When someone else is saying they made real good money, I'll raise my amount a little. It's sort of like with guys, who's dick is bigger. Like someone said earlier in the thread, we judge ourselves on our self worth by how much money we make.

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    hahah i almost ALWAYS lie about how much i make, but i UNDERESTIMATE> not over.


    but i do that with everything, so its a nice suprise if i actually have a hundered bucks more then i was expecting lol

    ie, phone bill i put aside extra $60 or so to what i think it will be, when it comes and its $80 less then expected, then im overly happy cos i "saved" 80bucks.
    or if a girl asks how much ive made, ill ALWAYS say less by quite a bit, so it looks like im an underachiever ( and i kinda am) so poeple dont think im a threat.


    i hate chicks that brag about how much theyve made, although if its one of the chicks who normally REALLY hussle their asses off, and never make more then a hundered or so a night, i LOVE hearing them brag if they made 200+ cos they REALLY deserve it, and its so much more genuine.



    what i REALLYYYYY hate is the chicks who make good money,and the complain especially loud in front of the other girls " ohhh what a shitty night, i only made $800+ " grrrrr even if your lying SHUT UP! lol

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    another thought.

    why lie and say you made more then you did?? then you have to constantly live up to that figure, and your only lying to yourselfs....

    imagine telling everyone you made a thou a night, and then you got caught out cos you had to borrow money or after a few months of this bs someone picked up on the fact that you were lying. feel a bit stupid wouldnt ya?!

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    My fav is a new girl at our club.. it'll be dead and everyones making a couple hundred bucks. One night she walks in and says "This sucks, I only made $600 tonite. Oh, well, my regular is going to give me a check for $1000 tomorrow" to no one in particular. She has persisted to say that her regular gave her $4000 (yes, 3 zeros) for meeting him for coffee.. another dancer, her friend "confirms" this. And she says shes going to ask for $9000 for a car (but shes going to tell him that its for school and bills). Anyway... girls were getting pissed about this bragging (even when we know its BS)

    One night girls were chatting about it so I said "thats ok, my regular is going to buy me a jet" and another girl said "Oh yea, mine just got me a yaught (sp?)" Point being, luckily it got turned around into a long running joke on slow nights but it can get you so singled out you wont want to come back to the club.

    Yes, girls lie about earnings. I always say "I did ok, I did crappy, I did well" without a dollar amount but others tend to want to make themselves feel better by giving dollar amounts and high ones. Its kinda like the bully syndrome... make yourself feel better by putting others down. She KNOWS no one made sh*t so by saying she made a lot (when she didnt) she makes herself feel better and you feel like you do... like WTF?

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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    MANY girls lie about their earnings IMHO...but who cares...worry about YOUR REAL EARNINGS! and how to improve them...that was/is my philosophy anyway...

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    ha i WISH i had a customer that could even AFFORD to by HIMSELF a damn jet...

    actually, a girl in japan got AUD$45,000 from a customer so shed leave LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! she wasnt the best of looking "girls" / suspected to be a man....lol she took it and ran.cant blame her really.

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    Yeah, definatly! When I was fairly new to stripping I used to belive some of the girls who said they'd made $5, 6, 7 hundred a shift but then after a while it just became obvious that they wern't. I felt alot better after I realised that, buisness was so hard at that particular time (no customers)! Subsiquently I moved to a club which had all the earnings on the books and discovered that the girls were regularly making $700 - $1,500 a night which I still didn't manage to do, lol!

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    Default Re: do you think some girls lies about their earnings?

    Yes, some do. I have a friend that just started dancing and she always lets me know how much she has made that shift. I never tell her a dollar amount so it is kinda strange how she is so focused on telling me how she banked.
    We sometimes have $10 dance night or for a few hours and she told me that she lets guys know that she is a $20 dance girl. Well, I know most of the regulars at the club and she has not said that to any of them. I think she just may be insecure.

    There are a few girls that do make mucho dollars, but they are "providing" a lot more than a dance

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    I always lie, but I lowball.

    I don't give an F what the other girls at the club think of me based on what they think I earn- I just like to fly under the radar and make my money . I've had people react very badly to me out of jealousy (not that I make THAT much), so I like ot keep it to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste25
    I'm thinking; "700$!!! I had to hustle my ass off for 500$ or 400$ and I was just as busy as them. I mean I didn't stop! My feet are killing me!
    Dancing money is not just made with the feet. Dancing money is also made by talking the cash out of the wallet. Sob stories abound and sometimes girls happen to be just plain charming. The ones who are just plain charming may very well consistently make $100-200 more than someone who is not. No offense intended, of course. You may be new and not have your game face on straight yet. My game face is sometimes on and sometimes my dog ate it.

    Of course this could be explained by a really great custy but come on, these girls always seem to make a 100$ or 200$ more than me! And I know (or at least I'm pretty sure) they are clean.
    Of course, it depends on the girl, but yeh, I believe... no, I KNOW that some girls regularly make $500+/night working 3-4 nights a week.

    So this my question; Are these girls full of shit? If so, why? Or are they just better hustlers than me? What's the deal here? And do you think some girls lie about their earnings?
    Some of these girls may be completely full of shit and some may be telling you the truth. You can learn a lot just by sitting and WATCHING. Myself, if asked how much I've made, I tend to LOWBALL the figure. I do NOT want anyone thinking I'm their competition.
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    I have never lied about my earnings, although sometimes i have "lowballed it"
    I usually dont share my earnings with girls i am not friends with..

    But if they are friends, sometimes i ask.. (am i wrong?) and i tell them mine. Just to make sure i am still "doing ok" i guess.

    Maybe i shouldnt be as honest. I certainly dont want anyone to view me as competition!!

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    When girls ask how much I make? I just tell them a nuff to fill up my gas tank and lil bit more. I do hear how girls fib a tad bit.......if it makes them feel better....do it then.

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    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!they do, girls at my club do it, especially the newer ones, they say it i think because one they think they have something to prove, and 2 they do it because they want other dancers to think that there great,we had this one girlwho would brag about how much she made when other dancers where complaining about there night,for instance: one dancer would say i'm having a bad night i only had 2 dances, then the next would say basically the same thing, them the one girl would say yah i'm having a bad night too, i only have 500$, she wanted girls to think that wow a bad night for her is 500$? but really, she made about 2-300 a night, we could all see how good someone is doing.

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    We had a newbie at Pure Platinum, and she was so damn happy on her first night after tipping out and paying the house she made $300. I remember her counting the money right there for other dancers to see.

    Well, she became the enemy after that night. Other ladies got jealous....her first night?

    I never told or asked what others made, as i did not care for the dancers to be in my business.

    On a message board it easier to tell what you HAVE made, and Pure Platinum was a money maker that's for sure, very up-scale, but health issues came up with the certain people and it closed.

    Anyway, i never lied, i like to throw money around because i could be dead tomorrow. I worked 6 nights a week 4 hour shifts. Made damn good money, no extras,. no grinding...because i was a stage dancer, and then i would spemd time with a regular for say an hour perhaps after the stage.

    Alot is location, the club, and the person. I went in with an attitude that said, "yes i like you, and i will dance/spend time with you." That was all that was needed...then.

    Today i have no clue if i worked 6 nights a week what i wouold make. But guys to get attached, and some of these "stories" are not too far out there.

    At Pure Platinum it was the "norm" to make at least $800 every fucking night, IF you worked you're ass off, much work, lots of BS and no sleep as i traveled to another job days. Wed. always slow. Did i make that much? I would laugh at the money that was made.... and even more. It's like wtf? Ok, this is happening, i am doing something right....Keep it up. I was too skinny i thought, tired and hungry...i was too driven.

    But i would never count out $$$$ in front of any dancer to prove it, that was just wrong.

    Pamela who has her bragging rights.....And damn proud of it! Because i am done with that part of my life......It was HARD.

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