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    Default Re: No money - No shopping! No telephone - No number!

    Oh no Mermaidz, you are in for a helluva time now!!!!!

    Kat be gentle with "young grasshopper".

    Anyway, Naomi I don't think it's a very good idea to do this all the time. I have never done it for the fact I hear too many guys complaining about the girls who do pull that scam.

    But if it works for you over there.... I'm just saying it probably wouldn't work well here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine


    Aaaaaah, young grasshopper, I have much to teach you about how badass Russian Texans are when I come down there. teeeheeeheeee. <eeexcellent>
    heh ok master,teach me the ways of the wicked! hurry up and get down here too

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    Hello all you dancing GODDESSES.

    Okay, on the aforementioned subject of playing on a man's sense of "chivalry";
    Miss Naomi works in Greece, a different culture than I, and the respondents to her
    No Money - No Shopping post. I am no expert, but, it would make sense to me that (some/most?) Greek would men like the "damsel in distress" scenario.
    It plays into their whole macho (strong patriarchal society) self image.
    "I am big man, you little woman" - "Big man" will give "little woman" money to stroke his own ego and feel good about himself. It's pure narcissism.

    Lest we judge Miss Naomi for taking advantage and preying on this type of man.
    Neither is the victim here.

    Basically, aren't we all manipulating these men whenever we feign attraction towards them?

    Where does one draw the line?

    I believe it starts with yourself, and how committed you are to your own growth. Your own integrity and sense of self-worth determines how much "faking it" you will put forth in order to make a buck.

    This, I believe, is at the root of the dilemma that we dancers eventually choose, or choose not to deal with.

    Also, these men can fend for themselves.

    I want to say again, "they are not victims", to drive my point home.

    We, each of us, chooses to put ourselves in situations to further our growth.
    Yes, even the people that may seem the most insignificant to you play a role
    in the evolution of your beautiful soul.

    He has a choice, we all do.

    If you want to do something to enhance the reputations of you and your fellow dancing GODDESSES...... to CHOOSE to love ourselves may be the place to start.


    Peace.
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    Default Re: No money - No shopping! No telephone - No number!

    Oh, come on, you didn't want to edit for using Dostoevsky?

    Fair point about the difference in cultures. But, um, yeesh.

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    Default Re: No money - No shopping! No telephone - No number!

    I think customers would rather spend time with a dancer who has her sh*t together because she's not golddigging or desperate.

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    oh my gosh you are all so negative...

    i am not a girl who talks about problems to my customer pff ...
    i am a verry happy girl and have a lot of fun in my job and get enough money don't worry about that!!! i just thought it was funny what happends to me that night... and of course i am not stupit to do it like a new "working way" i just wanted to let you dancers now how stupit men can be... and just to give a hint to dancers when they have costumers asking there phone numbers... but it went the other way and all of you think that negative oh i think you are all to seriues in your job...my english writing is not that good so maybe thats why you don't get my point sorry for that

    one wrote...that she can buy a new phone what's the point deh ??? yeah what's the point!!! You think i can't afford a new phone??? every stripper can.
    i just liked it the way i told him about my dog eat my phone OF COURSE HE DIDN'T EAT MY PHONE!!!! ohhhuh

    .........xxxx.........

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    Is this a joke? HELLOOOOOO it was just a night of fun i was bored!!! oh i can't believe this really... please don't see me like a little girl who is complaning about my life ect.... don't you have a day that you think f*ck... so i had a night of that and was totaly not in a good mood and my period that's happens one's in the month!!! and i just didn't care for the men that night and give him silly answers... so my bad night went into a good and funny night! that's it

    don't say something about the GREEK men because it doesn't matter from where.... but they are all the same YES ALL! like we women we are all the same! only we show in many different way's





    Quote Originally Posted by Monet
    Hello all you dancing GODDESSES.

    Okay, on the aforementioned subject of playing on a man's sense of "chivalry";
    Miss Naomi works in Greece, a different culture than I, and the respondents to her
    No Money - No Shopping post. I am no expert, but, it would make sense to me that (some/most?) Greek would men like the "damsel in distress" scenario.
    It plays into their whole macho (strong patriarchal society) self image.
    "I am big man, you little woman" - "Big man" will give "little woman" money to stroke his own ego and feel good about himself. It's pure narcissism.

    Lest we judge Miss Naomi for taking advantage and preying on this type of man.
    Neither is the victim here.

    We will each continue to find mirrors of ourselves in order that we may recognize the things we need to change/heal in ourselves.
    We do this in our own time.....when we are ready.
    Naomi's spirit will, at some point in time say "no" to this type of self-defeatism.

    If we condemn this lady for "manipulating" this man, we may be seeing something in her that we dislike in ourselves.
    "That which we perceive, we posess."
    I have learned to be careful about casting stones, and instead I welcome examples of behavior that illicits a negative response in me.
    Thereby, showing me another part of my self that I have disowned because it is "bad", giving me another opportunity to accept that part of me.

    You would be well served by considering those things in others that make you the most livid, as opportunities to embrace the same trait in yourself.

    She is beautiful, so are you
    He is talented, make that two
    (A couple of lines from a poem I wrote.)

    I'm getting a bit off track.....

    Basically, aren't we all manipulating these men whenever we feign attraction towards them?

    Where does one draw the line?

    I believe it starts with yourself, and how committed you are to your own growth.
    Your own integrity and sense of self-worth determines how much "faking it" you will put forth in order to make a buck.

    This, I believe, is at the root of the dilemma that we dancers eventually choose, or choose not to deal with.

    Also, these men can fend for themselves.
    I want to say again, "they are not victims", to drive my point home.
    We, each of us, chooses to put ourselves in situations to further our growth.
    Yes, even the people that may seem the most insignificant to you play a role
    in the evolution of your beautiful soul.

    He has a choice, we all do.

    If you want to do something to enhance the reputations of you and your fellow dancing GODDESSES......
    to CHOOSE to love ourselves may be the place to start.
    Love ourselves for our shortcomings, our bumps and bruises.
    Love ourselves unconditionally, simply because that is what we, and everybody deserves.

    Dostoevsky, typically a very dark man wrote the following poem on this kind of love....

    Love all creation
    the whole of it
    in every grain of sand
    Love every leaf
    every ray of God's light
    Love the animals
    Love the plants
    Love everything
    If you love everything
    You will perceive the divine
    mystery of things
    and once you have
    perceived it
    you will begin to comprehend
    it ceaselessly
    more and more
    everyday
    and you will at last
    come to love
    the whole world
    with an abiding
    Universal Love


    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    I think customers would rather spend time with a dancer who has her sh*t together because she's not golddigging or desperate.
    That's also not always true...

    we have a dancer ad our club and she is really like this complaning and complaning but she goes home with a big smile
    she ask customers to give her money for rent... tickets... and things like that. and she get it!!! she get's everything!

    We go for dances in the private room topless two songs... i get 9 euro the customer pay's 24 euro....
    she tels the customer to buy 10 privates and she dance about 5 songs.....
    many girls like to do the same but till now .... it's only she who can make things happen and believe me she don't do extra stuff all the privates room are half open you can see inside and with camera protected...
    it is just the way she talk... and she doesn't loose here customers. she gets even more ~champagne~ dances~ pressents~ and tips.

    she don't give a shit about the men who come in the club. she is there to work to get her money and don't care what people think about her... it is good if you think like that. i can't work like her because i life here and the most people know me... but if i could WHY NOT!!!

    she shout say: Are you working for a good name or for MONEY? and all i can do is to give here right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamela
    Hmmm you may have had a good night. I don't see this working much. They are giving presents. Wont they expect something from you for these presents, say a free dance or date. You accepted a guys personal phone. He just handed you his own phone? That is odd......

    But more power to you!!!!

    Pamela
    come on pam you know better ... this you said here i could believe it came from you... ALL MEN EXPECT MORE FROM US ANYWAY!!!!

    Why you think they would come to a stripclub??? you really think for that stupid dance???? come on!!! please be serieus now.

    it was a new phone by the way he got it only 2 day's and even when it was a old phone i did not care about the phone ad all, i cared about what men do to get a phone number!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondhottie
    Sorry Naomi, but I don't think what you did is a very good idea. It might have worked for you this time, but you're going to turn more guys off with that strategy than anything. Guys come to clubs to relax and have a good time, not to hear complaining about having no money. I know a couple of dancers who bitch about being broke to custys all the time and the custys hate it.

    to relax??? sorry what kind of men come into your club?

    Here the men don't like to relax thats for sure....

    strange... shout it be .. different country different men?

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    i wrote a lot now sorry ha ha just one more thing for all of you... i know in amerika it is normal men tip you on stage... here in Greece you must be very VERY happy when you get 5 Euro tips in a week! here they don't tip at all...

    I work very hard, hussle around all night long from 23:00 till 06:00 i try to smile all the time even on my bad day's even when i am tayerd, even when my shoes are killing me i dance on stage with all i have and give the customers a good show even when there is only one men left I DANCE!

    i was complaining that day and saw what could happen when you are complaning... for me it was a lot of fun because i didn't expect that.

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    Default Re: No money - No shopping! No telephone - No number!

    In re: the complaining and so forth. There are some customers who do like me complaining or whinging or so forth. They feel because I'm doing this that I'm being more 'real' with them .... that they have a special place because I'm venting to them... and so forth. Some of them do get a little "kick" out of this type of behaviour.

    At the same time, I believe in dancing with integrity. Anyone who has done any study in "abundance" type of thinking and behaviour (ie Think and Grow Rich) will realise that integrity and more positive traits will get you somewhere more often than the more negative ones.

    In closing, I just wanted to say that we all have those nights where we just want to go and strangle all the men... we just do not want to be at work however have to be that night (due to being on contract, for instance)... it's nice to know that other dancers' have had these nights.. and what their experience has been.

    Naomi was just trying to share her experience when she was feeling in a bad mood. It was her bit of fun that made her night more bear-able and also made her realise that some men can be soooo stupid.

    As for when a man asks for my number... I say that I don't have a mobile phone anymore. If they ask for my number still knowing this.. I then tell them straight: "Please forgive me I just do not feel comfortable sharing my phone number with people who I meet inside this club." Or else I will tell them that it is against the law as it is regarded as solicitation.


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    So girls pretent to be poor....sad..on-lucky. After a gift smile show you are very VERY happy!!! customer love to make womens happy [/QUOTE]

    your so funny! and what a smart idea! thats funy i always kept my probs to myself no matter what and pretend i was always happy because when i started thats what ppl told me that i shouldnt complain or lie becuase customers dont want to talk to a depressed dancer. But you did it in such a cute way they probably couldnt resist!

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    it wont work here...american men are smarter than that

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    The only problem guys want to here about is that you are not doing well in school (means you are not leaving anytime soon) and your boyfriend problems (he thinks he has a chance)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Texas is the strip club capital of the US mermaidz. We invented the "lapdance".
    <eeexcellent>

    Hmmmm..... I've heard from many resources that Mitchell Bros. in SF was the first in the US to sell the lapdance. (one resource was an interview I watched with our old mayor Willie Brown, he's always been very supportive of the SC scene in SF)
    "We all must suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while regret weighs tons. In order to achieve what others don't, you have to do what others won't."


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    Default Re: No money - No shopping! No telephone - No number!

    My experience here, frankly stated is that they don't want to hear whining. They come in to relax, talk to their buddies and spend time with a pretty little thing that will fulfill their every fantasy.. well up to a point. But you get it, so that sob story whiner BS just wont work here.

    Miss R

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