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    at my club, we have taken on quite a few girls who have never danced before. they make good money cause they are new. one problem: they tip out most of it. we have minimums. on bad nights, i tip the minimum. on good nights i tip a percentage more than the minimum based on what i make.

    the minimums are as follows:
    10% total to dj (before other tip outs)
    $25 to house
    $3 to valet
    $5 to bouncer
    $3 to bar

    quite a bit of money if you are repeatedly making $150 before tip out.

    here's my issue. my bouncer and i always got along very well, but since these new girls have come in, i've been getting s**t on. there are several girls who work at my club and get trashed all night and make no money. or they lie about how much they make to avoid tipping out. i almost always can pay at least the minimum. there have been about 7 nights in my 1yr & a half working there where i couldnt. honestly, i believe that if i'm walking out with under $100 i shouldnt pay the house fee. i have no problem tipping the others. most girls i work with have this attitude. most of the time, they dont make us pay house fee if it's been super slow- as long as we take care of everyone else. except the new girls, they happily dig into their wallets for tip out if they have to. and this isnt a super big money club! it's wrecking it for the rest of us. these new girls tip out half of what they make! one time a girl made $200 and tipped out half of it! this isnt required! last night i walked out with no money cause my bouncer made me pay the $25 house fee. i have never had to do this before- ever. and i dont lie about how much i make. he accused me of lying about my money. i was so pissed!

    ever had to deal with this issue? my club is getting bad. they are getting very demanding on us and it's been very slow. it isnt our faults! i dont mind, but on monday, three girls didnt pay house fee (same bouncer collecting) and they dont pay it as much as i do. i just dont like being told repeatedly that if i dont make it, i dont pay house fee and then have to pay it. my bouncer also got mad at me cause my vip customers werent tipping him. usually they do, but lately they havent been (even when i ask them to!). i cant help that! i try my best! he got mad cause i havent been getting as many vips as i used to. i try, but it's not happening. if i could change it, i would.


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    omg. makes ya hate new girls aye!

    have you told them that they dont have to tip out so much???

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    yep. i did. they just dont care. too easily persuaded. when i first started working there, most were afraid to approach me for tip out. the whole club could here me punching a table and yelling last night. everyone stayed out of my way when i went to my car. so pissed last night, i couldnt remember exactly what i yelled. if my bouncer does it again and acts like a prick, i'm gonna blow my nose on the tip out money- just i did when the valet yelled at me to tip him. he was gonna get it, but bitching 'give it to me now!' when i'm struggling to get into my pants means i hock loogies on ur tip out.
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    Well, you could cut the cost a little if you needed to.

    10% to the Dj is standard

    I tip my Dj $5, if I have a really shitty day and make less than $110. If I make my $110 or up I then tip my $10 or 10%.

    $3 to valet

    Easy to stop this one, don't use the valet service. Get to work early when there aren't as many cars, so it's easier to park.

    $5 to bouncer

    That's ones a toughie, but if you only have to pay $5 to the bouncers and it gets split between them all, it's not so bad. but if you have to tip each one $5, that's pushing it a little. Especially if none of them actually did any work for you.

    $3 to bar

    Do you mean bartender or the bar itself? I usually tip my waitresses and bartender, but it's because we are friends.

    $25 house fee

    Talk to your mgr. Tell him you had a really really bad night. They will usually let you carry the fee over, or let you pay $5 on it. We have had a few very bad nights where the owner just said, "Don't make the girls pay anything to work tonight." I mean our top money girls ($800-$1,000 a night girls) walked home with like $200. And everyone else left with less than $100, more like $50 each. But we had a really bad ice storm and a few of us ended up staying in the bar for hours till the snow crew came by on the roads.

    You might want to also talk to your mgr about the newer girls "overtipping". Tell him/her that they are essientially paying out 1/2 of what they make. Maybe they don't know any better or maybe they are just really generous. If they don't know any better, they might change their ways; if they are like that by nature then your screwed.

    Anyway good luck and hope your club gets better!

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    Default Re: overtipping *rant*

    10% to the DJ is a lot if you're making decent money. He'd better be earning it.

    Your club doesn't sound that great, imo- a valet who screams 'give it to me?'. A bouncer getting mad at your because VIP customers aren't tipping him? Is there another club nearby you could switch to?

    As for the newbies tipping out lots...well, it may be annoying, but it's their right. I don't GET that, but maybe they're calculating it as a long-term investment thing. Tipping well is a great idea, but only if it's deserved. Maybe the bouncers/other staff have gone way out of their way to help the new girls? In any case, if these girls are there to make money, the $$$ will stop flowing so freely soon, and the heat will be on them, not you.

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    10% to the dj is not standard, unless you are working in a club where a) you make most of your money on stage and b) you aren't making all that much of it. A $10 or $20 minimum is more standard, at least in clubs where you are earning more money, and earning most of it on the floor.

    TG, this is a crappy situation, but if you are regularly making $150 before tipout, you need to seriously consider switching clubs or looking into other jobs. I know a lot of girls here say that "Hey, $100 a night is more than I'd make at such-and-such job," but it's not enough more to strip for. Where are you that (the new) girls will dance for no money?

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    i work in atlanta.

    as far as valet goes. the tip out is required. i pay it. i'm nice like that. all the guy has to do is make sure no one touches my datsun. i dont care how rusted out it looks, it's mine. i never give him my keys. they make most girls but me do it. this is because: 1 i dont drink, 2 i have a psycho ex who's on meth and would steal the keys & my car, should he decide to come there. he carries a gun. dangerous jerk! some girls let him warm up their cars and leave it there started. i never let him do that. gas is pricey these days. i'm from ny, we're used to cold cars. i dont want my car stolen, even though it's surrounded by running mercedes and cadillac escalades.

    i'm pretty easy going. these guys have to ask me to help with my bags. usually i get them myself, no problem. i'm very self-sufficient. on wed, i walked out by myself to my car. no assistance whatsoever. it's cause i didnt make the money. not my fault. i busted my ass trying to!

    as far as bar fee, the money is tipped to the bar itself and they divide it up. often though, i have my custys sit away from the bar and when they want a drink i holler at the waitress (whom half the time is in lala land) so she can get her tip instead of the guy going to the bar. we have only one bouncer. he gets all the money. i manage myself. he doesnt even do anything for me. i dont have him help me get vips or tell me the big spenders. i find out on my own. he never checks on me in vip. if someone's out of line, i take care of it myself. involves lots of kicks and punches. they think cause i'm some squatter punk i can handle myself. most of the time, my coworkers look away. unfortunately, my former lifestyle has made me very used to having to handle myself. i need to change this about myself. one problem: girls dont make a big deal when these guys are out of line. i do. that's why i'm known as a bitch. i'm not going to giggle if a guy yanks my nipple rings. i deck him.

    i was making more. i was the top earner of that club for awhile. but the club is small and we have about 7-10 girls per night and the same guys come in over and over. it's getting boring. no fresh faces. other issues: when i work i'm there to get dances- not talk or get drunk. the club thinks i'm making more money than i am. they're being assholes. they're pushing me. further than i push myself.

    we have one new girl who doesnt like me. i dont know why. she told my bouncer the other night i was stealing customers from her (wtf?). the only time i would come up to a table where she was, was because 5 guys are sitting there and there's no one else in the club. i always asked if i could join them first. we BOTH danced for them! what am i supposed to do? sit playing video games?! she's been getting lots of vips cause she's breaking the rules. i do have reason to believe she's saying shit about me. my money has gone down. if i get proof, i'm gonna slam her fat head with a chair and watch her bleed. i've unfortunately done it before to other girls.

    i do like this club. it was small and friendly environment (except when i get mad). the problem: not enough customers and too many girls. on wed, the club was empty. i think we had 15 people come in all night! it's even slow on saturdays!

    *sigh* maybe it's time to move on. i didnt want it to come to this, but i'm not left with much choice. i get there on time (most girls dont) or call otherwise. i do my job completely sober and i work hard. i may be a bit scary looking, but i'm not an a**h*** until you give me reason to be- and the reasons are clearly outlined.

    just wish i didnt have to pay for those damn permits...
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