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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    If you are 5'6" and under you are clinically obese, and that is not considered beautiful by most people (there is a nitch fetish market who will pay a lot to worship the big girl).
    You're close. Actually, it's 5'4" at 174 pounds that rates 30 on the BMI chart posted at the CDC, which is considered obese.
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    Figure out your BMI and if you are over 23 you should consider taking measures to reduce that number, if only for your own health, if not for your look.
    18.5 to 24.9 is classified as normal on the BMI by the CDC. In addition, there are other physical measurements besides weight and height that can determine one's health risks, such as percentage of body fat and waist circumference, but that's another discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    I consider myself thick with a BMI of 21, and would like to be around 120 pounds (am currently 135 and 5'7").
    120 at 5'7" would be down on the borderline of normal and underweight. Granted, BMI is not the only factor in one's health assessment so that doesn't necessarily make being borderline underweight unhealthy, but neither is 23 or 24 necessarily unhealthy because it's at the upper end.

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    The girl who is closest to their physical ideal, gets their money, period.
    True. That's the $$$ bottom line, and the point of this thread is about making more money, but in discussing that, let's not confuse it with what may or may not be healthy. The range of BMI normal and what's most profitable in a SC may overlap but BMI normal probably has a wider range. Most dancers at a BMI of 23 may find it more difficult to make money without extras (extra smile/confidence/hustle - not those other extras), but they don't necessarily need to lose weight for health reasons.

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    Hang in there chik. In my area NoVa/DC, unless you've got some ass, you won't make a dime. The WOMEN rocking toned size 8/10 bodies make bank. The "ribs sticking out, looking like their 13 years old" types are on the bottom of the food chain. Times are changing!

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    I'm thicker also, and curious about how the men are going to react when I start dancing on Thursday.

    Alot of the girls were tiny at the club I will be working at. I only saw one thick girl, and she had a lot of cellulite on her legs. It wasn't that flattering. I have a tiny bit on my butt when, but it isn't there all the time, if that makes sense. It depends on how I'm moving, ect.

    Definitly hit up the black men for dances. They love thick girls. My boyfriend and his friends vouch for that.

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    not really on topic, but as far as ceollulite on your hiney...try splurging on the Malibu spray tan and ask the sprayer to go a shade or two darker on the problem spots. It does wonders. On the cheaper side, try using a dark tinted moisturizer. In club lighting you can't tell the difference.

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    I would love to get a fake tan to make everything appear a bit smoother, but I'm trying to rock the whole pale skin/auburn hair look. But if I'm not making money with it, I am definitly getting a Mystic Tan.

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    Ok, this is a good subject for me. I am a thick dancer. Confidence is definetly the most important thing. And not only for dancing, but in your everyday life. If you don't think your beautiful, no one else will see you that way either. And when and if you see people pointing or covering there face, that should build your motivation that much more. You can't let what other people say bring you down. As far as working as a big girl in the club. I am from the midwest and from what I've seen men prefer the thicker girls. I am more of the well paid dancers at my club and I'm the biggest one there. But I think that out of all the customers, I don't have a problem with getting tips, except from younger white men. I usually go for the older men anyways, cause they usually have more money. But, it's easier to dance for black men, it may be I'm more attracted to black men anyways from my heritage, but they will appreciate you a lot more. But, if you are that insecure about yourself, maybe you need to get some you time and get more comfortable with yourself before you start dancing again. Insecurity can be sensed. That may be where your tips are going. Not because you are thick.

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    Yeah, the tan is a must for me. The stage is virtually all blacklight and I'm so pale I look like I just came out of a nuclear reactor and unfortunatley men still equate skin cancer with hotness. Mystic Tan is awesome if you don't want to look like leatherface by your late 20's.

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    Even though I an pushing the pale skin/red hair look myself, a LIGHT fake tan (I have never gotten beyond that stage no mater how much tanner I use!) warms you up a little and helps even out the rough spots. Also helps camofalge bruises!

    Middle-aged guys seem to be easier to work with than young guys all the way around. THey are more considerate, less concerned wheter you are skinny, more interested in personality and dance quality than in what they can get away with, and have more money. I would choose to work a middle-aged blue collar guy over a young guy in expensive clothes any day. FOr all I know, the young ones have spent all their limited budget on clothes! It is also easier to strie up a conversation with somebody who is old enough to have something to say! Most dancers I know feel the same way.

    Sometimes guys say the weirdest things, but they actaully mean them in a nice way. I get comments on my big ass all the time. Like "Did you know you have a big ass? I love big asses!" As if I haden't noticed! or "I love big women!" (not exactay what you want to hear, I know. but if the fact that they love big women keeps the $$ leaping out of their pocket into your garter, let them love whatever they want!)

    Keep up the confidence. We all have our own unique look. SOme guys like thick or curvy, some like skinny, some like to try a little of everything. Just know that YOU can give them bhe best private dance they ever had, and make THEM know it, too!


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    It pays to have an fat ass. I have yet to see a pancake ass break $80 in a night. I love the South, even the younger, white guys seem to prefer a bubble butt and a curvy figure to the "heroine chic" dancers. Plus being healthy and filled out helps keep you from looking so haggard after a 6 day week. Ever seen a chain smoking size 0 after a hell week and a couple benders? Even club lights can't help the poor thing. Basically, healthy is sexy. Confidence is sexy. Having the energy and glow that comes from not starving yourself is much more rewarding than the appreciation of a few losers who probabley don't even have the cash for a table dance.

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    I don't agree at all that girls with over 23% BF make less cash. I am sitting at 24%, and it's unlikely I'll ever go lower due to a health problem (I won't even go into the incredible regimine that it takes to even keep me at that--it's exhaustive and changes every three months based on a docs re-evaluation). That said, I have a lush, curvy body with a tiny wasit, perky, uptilted real breasts, fabulous skin, and a nicely toned butt. No visible flab or sag because I work out to keep the muscles as toned as possible even though the body fat won't leave. I'm 5-foot-nothing and about 110-113 lbs (depending on time of month). I am also one of the biggest bankers in the club and I don't do "extras."

    I do agree that seriously overweight gals will have a much more difficult time of it, and also risk greater injury dancing (weight + 6" heels = joint issues at an early age).

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    Okay, this new term Thick.. does it mean big hips, big boobs a booty and a tiny waist or does it mean you're chunky?
    I don't get it, some say it's a compliment but i googled thick + girl and ummm i'm confused.

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    Everyone's got a different definition. I've heard it used as a euphemism for fat, and I've heard it used to describe girls with healthy, sexy curves. To me it just means "not skinny."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinupgurl2k6
    Okay, this new term Thick.. does it mean big hips, big boobs a booty and a tiny waist or does it mean you're chunky?
    I don't get it, some say it's a compliment but i googled thick + girl and ummm i'm confused.
    Thick = A good thang

    Hahaha I'm thick and customers often tell me that's why they are attracted to me. I'm not a size 2 (never wanted to be quite often) and I'm also not a size 16. I have a large, full chest, small waist, muscular (read: not fat, cellulite ridden) thighs and calves.

    IMO thick is a woman with sexy curves and bigger thighs. Thick girls may have some softness to their middle, but in no way, shape or form is their stomach hanging over







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    ^^^ Great description. I am slightly thick, with just the slightest hint of tummy curve. I was just designed with childbearing hips and muscular thighs to go with a 26" waist. Some people use "thick" like it means "fat," but there are no rolls here!

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    Travel, too. On the east coast I am "thick" to the point of not being hired some places, but in the midwest I'm one of the thinner girls.



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    I've got a big frame and I was never meant to be a skinny minny. I weight train to make sure my weight looks good on me. I do very well. I've always thought that it's not the way you look, but the way you feel about how you look. It effects everything. Aside from the black guys, try hitting the couples, as the women are less likely to feel threatened. Ridiculous, but it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovespell
    I would love to get a fake tan to make everything appear a bit smoother, but I'm trying to rock the whole pale skin/auburn hair look. But if I'm not making money with it, I am definitly getting a Mystic Tan.
    As an option, you might want to consider this. There's a dancer at the club where I hang out the most who usually has lighter skin and blonde hair, but when she spent a couple weeks with auburn hair and a tan (she also stayed away from high contrast makeup), it looked really fantastic.

    You might want to give it a try with one of those fake tan makeup products and see how it looks in the lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen
    or "I love big women!" (not exactay what you want to hear, I know. but if the fact that they love big women keeps the $$ leaping out of their pocket into your garter, let them love whatever they want!)
    I had a guy once grab me for a dance and say "you know why I wanted you for a dance? I just saw you and thought 'there's a girl with a little meat on her!'. I see all these skinny crackhos, and then this big fat girl- like what they doing here?! You're not too skinny- you just got some meat, you know? Something to look at"

    I didn't like hearing endlessly how 'meaty' I was. Haha, this is after I'd lost some weight. But he meant it as a compliment. Just roll with it. Some of the thicker girls at my club are by far the best sellers. I've seen them outsell skinny every night. Looks aren't everything, and especially not 'skinniness'. I remember one customer complaining to me how the standards went down at our club (he loves my look but was bitching about a heavier girl on stage). When the next girl came on, who is very thin with some fake boobs, and who I consider one of the lookers I said "there- she's hot, right?". But he said "nah, she's got no ass." Happy medium, I guess. That should be my next tattoo, stamped on my meaty ass.

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    [QUOTE=Susan This business is certainly about more than looks, it's about sales, but to quote a wise stripper, "When all the cars cost the same, it's easier to sell a Mercedes than a used Honda."[/QUOTE]



    I love that. So very true. There is a thick girl at the club where I work, and she does very well. She has no flab or stomach hanging over though. Her tummy is flat, and although her ass is very big, it looks pretty good. She does have times where she does very poorly, and her income has increased with a breast augmentation.

    I don't know how much this girl weighs, or what degree of "thick" you are, but you should lose some weight. I'm not going to recommend stick thin but eat better and go to the gym. Tone up a bit. If you decide to keep dancing you will have to put up with looks, comments, and probably less stage tips than the others. Realize that most nights, you will likely have to work 10x harder than the thinner hustlers. You CAN make money despite your size. Be honest with yourself, and if you truly are fat, embrace it. Be confident and act like you don't need anything. DO NOT sell yourself short (doing extras, acting sluttier, cheapening dances) to keep up with the other girls. If you have to do that to make a decent income, or work constantly to keep up with the bills, then you should probably quit or find a different club.


    On the other hand, we had a fat girl about two years ago, who did very poorly most of the time. She a lot heavier than the girl mentioned above, and not as attractive in the face or body type. She also lacked grace on stage. Make sure you are very graceful on stage. I would avoid "shakin it" as IMO it just made the girls thighs shake as well - NOT SEXY to shake cellulite. This girl did pole tricks, and it reminded me of a rotisserie chicken at KFC. A, big, plump thing spinning around a pole. IF you are fat, then will need to reavaluate your stage moves as well. I hope I didn't insult you or anyone else, but I'm just trying to tell the truth. If you are fat you will have to work 20x as hard most of the time, and that may not be enough to make GOOD money, or as much as other top earners. Only you know whether it will be worth it or not. You will most likely see an increase in earnings as your weight decreases.
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    Okay, now that I understand this whole thick concept.. my BMI is 20, I am 5'8" 36-28-36 and I have been called thick.. so what about the
    girls with a bmi under 18 with no curves which seems to be the norm at the club I work at most look more like young boys than
    females?

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    I'm a thicker dancer. I'm 5'6" and 200lbs. I've been a dancer for 5 years now and recently took some time off to have my first baby. I'm back dancing because it's the best exercise my body has ever known, and it's helping me to get rid of the extra padding my daughter was so generous to give me.
    The point is, I love what I do and I have fun. Sure, I have my off days when it seems like I'm the least-liked girl in the place, but there are also times when I'm the most popular. It's all about poise, attitude and confidence. If you walk around and go onstage worrying about what everyone's thinking about you, you're not going to be giving it your all and you'll be selling yourself short. I always go onstage with the attitude that I'm the best in the place. That gives me the confidence to put everything I have into my sets. I always smile and make eye contact with everyone I can. I also have learned how to put a little bit of burlesque and tease into my routines. I have a special set that I always get great comments on. I wear a suit jacket with a little skirt, white bra and thong, necktie and gangster-style hat. I take a chair on stage with me and pretty much just dance for myself and try to be as sexy as I can be and the crowd feels like it's a true show. My fist song is Sarah Smile by Hall & Oats. After that song, I get rid of the chair and move into the second song You Can Leave Your Hat On by Joe Cocker and I slowly peel off everything but my bra and thong and hat. Then the third song I get rid of the hat and bra. The third song I usually mix up a little. I've done Hey Big Spender by Peggy Lee, and A Wink and a Smile by Harry Connick Jr. and also some slow 80's style music.
    But it's all in the delivery of your performance. Confidence is the key. If you're the biggest girl in the place, but you go up there and smile and laugh and have fun with the guys, they will like you back and you will have made a great impression on them. And for those who don't like you, that's going to happen, just keep smiling and move on. You didn't need their stinky old dollar anyway. LOl
    Hope this helps a little and good luck.
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    The consistently highest earner at my club is the biggest girl there, so big girls do pretty well from what I've seen. As for myself I have a weird body type, I have big hips and big boobs and kinda small waist but no ass and skinny thighs. And it sucks cause I'd say the majority of men prefer a nice rounded full bottom and more feminine thighs.

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    When it comes to saying big girl, are we saying a girl that is built like a woman not what I like to call boygina's, girls that are shaped like a boy straight up and down with no shape to their breasts just nipples?

    I'm the only girl in my club with T&A I'm not a small build woman, I am a Medium build woman, I wear a size 6 but next to these boygina's I feel HUGE! It maybe because I am so different from all of my competition.

    I think this will work out to my advantage since this is a brand new club but then again I never count my chickens before they hatch.

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    I'm small on the top and big on the bottom -- 36A/28/38 -- which I guess is considered thicker. I have good muscle tone though, and have never felt like my size was a drawback. To me, anything that looks healthy is attractive. I'd rather see a thick girl with good muscle definition than a thin, flabby girl any day. The other day I noticed a girl on stage who was thin enough that I could count her ribs, but when she shook her ass, it flopped around like a empty sack. No muscles on this girl. Not pretty.

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    i am a 34c,,, my measurements are 35, 27, 38... 5'6'' and about 133lbs. and after reading this thread and finding out info about how girls that are "thicker" or have meat on their bones make good money,,, i feel a whole lot better, i have a pretty round jiggley butt... i thought i needed to lose 10-15 lbs before i tried out to dance... i feel confident abotu how i look, i just didnt think i was even close to being thin enough to dance. this was a great confidence boost!

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