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    Default First timer observations and a few questions...

    Just wanted to ask some advice about club etiquette. I've been about 6 times total to 3 different clubs in San Diego and am not quite sure on a few things. Hoping to read some advice from others.

    I've been to Pure Platinum (Topless only) and Deja Vu (Totally nude) by the airport, and The Main Attraction (Topless only) in Oceanside.

    I usually just sit at the stage and tip $2 for an average performance and $5 for a great performance from a top 3 performer, which is usually only 2-3 times in the hour... i.e. ...A dancer that I would definitely be interested in a couch dance from. I usually stay for 1-2 hours.

    My first question is why or what is the benefit of doing the VIP Room or Champagne Room dance over the couch dance? I believe it was 3 songs for $100 in the 2 clubs by the airport, the club in Oceanside only has table and couch dances. I was perfectly happy with the 1 song for $20 for the couch dances I received. I believe that they were the 1 way contact type. What is provided or different in the VIP room? Do they talk dirty or allow you to have your hands on them or just provide more frequent contact on your package? Why would I pay 3 songs for $100 instead of getting 5 of the couch dances?

    My second question is about throwing money on stage during their performance. Would the dancer prefer to have the money thrown out during the performance or have the guy give them $5 at the end? I also don't understand the guys that wad up the dollar bills and try to hit the girl with them instead of just throwing a few dollars out in front of where they are sitting. Oh yeah, what about the guy with the dollar bill in his mouth and the girl biting it from him. Does the girl think, "What a Jackass?" Does she like that or does it mess up her routine? Is she flattered at all or does she think for the dollar in the mouth trick, that it should be a $5 or $10? I've only seen it 3 times and it's always been by the drunk guys who are pretty loud. I think it's cool and I get a chuckle out of it, but just wonder what the dancers think about it.

    My last question for now is about Tips. What is the tip amount supposed to be for the $20 couch dance? What should it be if you get 3 or 4 songs from the girl? Should it be $5 per song or is it dependant on how many you get with the girl? I got 2 couch dances from 1 girl and gave her $50 and 3 songs from a different girl and gave her $80. Is that right or too low?

    Thanks for any advice you can give. I have others, but will wait and see if I come across as a rookie that should hit the road or get some good responses. Thanks for your time.

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    Default Re: First timer observations and a few questions...

    OK 1st off, unless the laws have changed out there; Southern Cali is a very no touch area.

    When I worked at MA in Oceanside, we could n't touch custys hardy at alllet alone them touching us.

    I actually like it better if just throw money on the stage instead of me coming and getting it from you. That way if I'm in the middle of a complicated pole move or in the middle of a theme show (I play with hot candles) ; I don't have to stop and then start up again.

    Most girls (at least from what I see) don't actually mind the dollar balls, untill you have to go and unroll them back in the back. It does get a little time consuming then. And add to that, sometimes you don't know exactly where the dollar came from.

    As for the tip on couch dances, sounds like you are a good tipper. I have had tips from couch dances ranging from nothing or a dollar (yes one dollar!LOL) up to a $50 for one song ($30 couch dance; $80 total).

    TIp what you feel comfortable! If the girl really did something for youlet her know; if she wasen't your cup of tea then at leats tell her thanks.

    Anyway, I know some of these answers are pretty standard, but w/o really knowing your situation I can't go much more imdepth than that.

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    Default Re: First timer observations and a few questions...

    The benefit of a VIP dance is usually a "better" (higher contact) dance, or that it's done in a more private area. If you try one and it's no better than one on the floor, then no, there isn't a reason to buy them instead.

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    *I dont prefer the dollar shots to the bum IMO.
    *As far as contact reg table dances would probably be beneficial to both parties. I havent been to a club here since summer....so may not be all that accurate.
    *I think that there isnt much YMMV here in SD...same pretty much everywhere. Their pretty strict here as Ive heard.
    *Tipping wise nice tips BTW! As if she was a great waitress and gave you great service (ie great dance..non-robotical) then yea I would tip...but whatever you can is always appreciated.
    *Money in the mouth thing....ok if they dont own a cold sore on that thing! I would playfully take the tip in the boobs if I trusted they wouldnt try to grab me on stage. Some guys I do think are just drunk and horney (which what happens sometimes part of the job) then I stay away from them.
    * PS there are alot of fun things a dancer can give in a low contact environment without breaking the law and not in a tasteless way either.
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    Default Re: First timer observations and a few questions...

    and theses fun things would be? i need tips..lol

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    Default Re: First timer observations and a few questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    The benefit of a VIP dance is usually a "better" (higher contact) dance, or that it's done in a more private area. If you try one and it's no better than one on the floor, then no, there isn't a reason to buy them instead.
    The VIPs I do are "better" than floor dances because I have more room to move around and show customers the lovely positions of which I am capable. It's quieter too.

    If the VIPs have no additional benefits for you as a customer, don't bother. SC's exist for you

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    Default Re: First timer observations and a few questions...

    Here's a thread with a list of rules for customers....
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36352

    Here's a thread on the money showers.....
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46199

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    Now to answer some of your questions directly.............

    Quote Originally Posted by socalsd
    I usually just sit at the stage and tip $2 for an average performance and $5 for a great performance from a top 3 performer, which is usually only 2-3 times in the hour... i.e. ...A dancer that I would definitely be interested in a couch dance from. I usually stay for 1-2 hours.


    This seems very reasonable. The only thing to mention is that if you are sitting at stage side (aka "tip rail"), then it is usually proper etiquette to be prepared to tip at least $1 per song, per dancer.

    Let's say a dancer is on for a 3-song set. If you're sitting stage side and tip her duing the first song, don't be surprised if she looks to you again for another tip during songs 2 and 3. If there are a lot of guys sitting around the stage, she may not make it back, but be prepared.

    The reason I mention this is so that you don't get offended by a dancer you've tipped $5 during song 1, and then get irked when she comes back during songs 2 and 3. If it's not busy, and you don't wish to tip with that frequency, you may want to sit back from stage side and approach the stage when you like.

    Also note, that it's usually considered poor etiquette from a dancer's perspective to pull customers from stage side for dances. When you tip a dancer $5 to signal you want a dance, mention to her that you'd like to get a dance, and see if she'll come see you at a table after her set.

    You should always mention that you'd like a dance, because not all dancers look at the tip. Some find that to be tacky, and rightly so. Then you don't want her wondering later on, who gave her the $5 tip. Also by mentioning you want a dance to her, hopefully she'll be professional and be able to tell you when she can come over to see you. She may be able to see you right after her set, she may want to go back to the dressing room and freshen up after her set and say she'll meet you in 5 min, she may have another customer who she promised a dance to before and will need to meet you a little later. By letting you know, you can know when to expect to see her so as not to get frustrated wondering where she went. Also you will know if you can hang out at stage side a little longer!

    If she does come up to see you when you're still sitting at stage side, than be sure to throw a tip to the dancer on stage before leaving for your dance.

    Quote Originally Posted by socalsd
    Why or what is the benefit of doing the VIP Room or Champagne Room dance over the couch dance?


    Well you mentioned 1 song for $20 or 3 for $100 in the VIP (aka "champagne room). Yeah unless there is a free drink involved, I'd prolly just stick with the normal dances in your example. You're right. Why pay 3:$100 when you can get 5:$100 or get 3:$60 and be able to add a tip?

    In most cases the dances in the VIP are the same as the dances sold by the song.

    Usually VIP is sold in alotments of time (ie $100 for 15 min or $300 for $60). Different clubs have different setups. Sometime VIP will include a drink. Sometimes VIP can get VERY expensive, with a chage to the club for the room time, a requirment to buy a bottle, PLUS the tip to the dancer.

    Why do all this? The are prolly several reasons. Some guys like to have more of a 1:1 situation. They like to have convos and mix in some dances, and VIP lets them do that & keep the full attention of the dancer. The music on the floor tends to be very loud, and hard to have convos., so VIP usually provides a quieter more private, and laid back setting.

    Quote Originally Posted by socalsd
    My last question for now is about Tips. What is the tip amount supposed to be for the $20 couch dance? ... Should it be $5 per song or is it dependant on how many you get with the girl? ...


    I think most dancers would be happy with a tip of $5 per song. Different guys will have different ways of determining to whom and how much they tip. You seem very resonable so I'd say whatever you feel is appropriate is prolly fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk
    *I dont prefer the dollar shots to the bum IMO.
    Lololol
    I wish i could find the guy who started this trend of wadding up a bill and tossing it at a dancer.he deserves an ass whoopin IMO!

    What do they think???
    If they ball up a dollar bill,wind up like a baseball pitcher and toss it at a dancers tu tu,maybe if they hit her in the right spot,she is going to fall down and start convulsing in orgasmic pleasure???

    Thanks for the tip guys,but dam,tossing it at her coochie like a spit ball is just downright disrespectful IMO.

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    Default Re: First timer observations and a few questions...

    I don't mind the wadded up, thrown bills, as long as they don't try to hit me with them. Aim them for the front to middle of the stage.
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