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    Default Champagne Conversations.

    I just started in the business and last night I did my first champagne room.. I felt a little nervous so I just talked about simple things like where the customer was from, what he did for work, etc.. Anyone have some other conversation topics they would share with me?????????

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    I just kind of talk about whatever the customer seems to be most interested in. You know, sometimes it's just hard to get a good conversation out of some people...a lot of guys are just really boring. I've found that the best way to get a guy talking is to just ask some probing questions like "what do you do for fun?" or "what's the wildest thing you've ever done?" or "if you could take me anywhere in the world where would it be and what would we do?"... dont really try to hard to make a conversation out of it, just let them talk and see where it goes. Some guys get nervous back there in those private rooms and clam up like they don't know what to say. If you can get their mind off of trying to ask you all the questions they'll (hopefully) loosen up and the conversation will lead itself.

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    don't talk, just do lapdances, that's what they want anyway. Keep it simple, ask him if it feels good, talk about how horny you are and how turned on you are. They really don't want to hear anythin else.......

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    You definetly want to talk while you are in the champagne room !! Geez if you don't they will have you doing dances the whole time ( 1 hour in my club ) and then you wont want another hour , lol . Its always best to be up on current events , did you hear about " .. " what do you think about ?? , new resturant opening .... things like that . Sports can be good just be honest that you are not an expert but the fact that you act intersted will be nice for any guy . Don't ramble on though they get enough of that from girls they date , try to get him talking after all hes there to unwind right ?? Say things like so how was your day/ week ??Act sympatheic make him feel like hes comfortable talking to you . Make sure you do give him nice fun dances that keep him wanting more . I try to wait until we are settled with the champagne and the money , waitress etc before I give him a dance then I give him one that lasts for 2 or more songs , instead of the normal one song . Doing this he feels like you are really giving him more than if he just sat on the floor with you . Make jokes with him while you get dressed so he wont be all over you as you sit back down , assuming you gave him a sexy dance ( not dirty ). Make sure you tell him how much you are enjoying the champagne , I have noticed that buying the bottle is not the customers favorite part . Excuse yourself briefly or wait until he needs to go to the bathroom and then talk to your waitress to discuss how you two will get him to buy another bottle and make sure that if he doesn't generously take care of her that you do . Let her know that you have her back as far as her tip goes too . Wow anyways before I give it all away ..... lol Good luck xoxoxo

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    don't talk, just do lapdances, that's what they want anyway. Keep it simple, ask him if it feels good, talk about how horny you are and how turned on you are. They really don't want to hear anythin else.......
    Amen!

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    Honestly I just talk to them like one of the girls. They love to hear crazy stories about your life. There are so many ways you can play it. My girls honestly just dont give a f*ck. One of my girls would just howel like a wolf the entire time and she would force the guy to howl with her! Another one of my chicys would make one guy kiss another guy to get a CProom with her! Ive noticed the girls who are more "themselves" get more CP rooms. So just chill & relax. (Collect your loot up front.) : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivy44
    One of my girls would just howel like a wolf the entire time and she would force the guy to howl with her! Another one of my chicys would make one guy kiss another guy to get a CProom with her! Ive noticed the girls who are more "themselves" get more CP rooms.
    Oh yeah, howling and forcing customers to make-out is soooo "real." What guy is going to kiss another one to get a CP room? None I know.


    In response to the original question, I observe how the customer is acting and follow suit. Some men are chatty, so conversate while you are dancing. Some guys like talking during dances, but only if it's about sex. In that instance, talk dirty for the guy. And then there are the guys who are quiet but into the dance. Obviously they don't want a discussion, so don't bother. I haev regulars that fall into all three of these categories and I treat them accordingly. Dancing is about figuring out what turns on a particular guy. For some, this will include talking, others, not so much.
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    Ok, in Texas in CR/VIP we are still paid $20 per song, and most customers won't pay you just to sit there and talk. In other places, where its paid in time increment and don't need to dance the entire time, I just start with one-liner jokes, talk about travel, sex, news, music, movies, etc.....I ask about them and they ask about myself. sometimes they get truth, other times I make stuff up about myself.

    Its good to keep convo a bit naughty though, not talk his ear off about negative crap. If you spend the entire time talking to them and NOT giving up some ass (so to speak) they will feel that you aren't worth the money and ALSO not continue the room longer. It works both ways..........

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    Flirt. Compliment. He'll have a good time talking about himself. They always do.

    When I worked in a club with a champagne room, I somehow got my customers to give me a massage. Weird? Nah. It makes them feel good to make me feel good. These customers are the "nice guys" who describe themselves as unappreciated "givers." Whatever. Less work for me!

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    Thanks. Hopefully I get more customers into the champagne room and make them want to come back for more!!

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    You are going to have to streamline your champagne room experience to reflect the way you described it in your sale. This is going to depend on both your club rules and your personal comfort level.

    First off, I disagree with Katrine in some respects. In my experience, I have found that the type of customer that purchase an hour, 2 hours, 5 hours in the VIP want you to sit down and talk rather than do 5 hours of dancing. Lets call him Customer A. He is looking for what they call on tuscl "the girlfriend experience" Someone to rub his shoulders, listen to him about his day, laugh at his jokes, and do everything a perfect "girlfriend" would do. This is the guy who is usually traveling through town, puts it all on his corporate credit card, and spending upwards of 2 or 3 grand is a non-issue.

    On the flip side, the type of customer Katrine was describing is the guy who has a decent amount of $$ to spend (3-500 bucks) but wants to make sure he doesn't "waste" any of it on talking. We'll call him Customer B. More likely he will buy the 3 for 100 deal or pay by the dance in VIP rather than by the hour. He is looking for a "better" (wink wink) dance in VIP.

    Getting back to the sale. How do you sell your VIP, by the time or by the dance? Do you tell the customer that it is "better?" Does your club allow more contact in VIP and are you comfortable with providing more contact if that is the norm for your club? Are you talking to Customer A or Customer B? All of this is important because if you sell Customer B an hour in VIP and spend the hour talking, he is going to feel ripped off.

    Now, I mentioned club rules. What does your club allow in VIP? If you work at a club with some weird rules for VIP, you may have to alter your sales pitch. For example, here in AZ you can't take your clothes off or give lap dances in VIP. I know, it sounds crazy but at my club we sell champagne and an hour of fully clothed conversation in VIP. After that first hour, if they want to buy a second hour of dancing they can. Customer A's eat it up, it's exactly what they want, and I usually end up not even dancing all night long.

    Needless to say, I've see many Customer B 's really POed that they just spent upwards of $600 for an hour of talking to a drunk girl. Now, you could say "What a jerk that he expected to grope me!" But in actuality it's the dancer's fault for misleading him with the sale. Not a good way to build up repeat clientele. He'll never come back and tell everyone that you ripped him off.

    Customer As are out there, and represent probably 20% of the guys through the door. Customer B is more common. You have to decide if and how you want to deal with Customer B, because this is the type of customer that can send a weaker or more volatile dancer to tears.
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    bring up a topic and turn it into a conversation, such as where do you work? he'll say, and ask him questions, it will grow like a family tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    don't talk, just do lapdances, that's what they want anyway. Keep it simple, ask him if it feels good, talk about how horny you are and how turned on you are. They really don't want to hear anythin else.......
    Yes! And when you get tired, cuddle and play with his hands or massage his neck. Better yet, let him massage your neck!

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    You all have some good points. I've done the hangout and talk thing in VIP of clubs where we are paid in advance. It just doesn't work for Texas clubs unless you set an hourly rate and get paid in advance. Most guys here are wise on this and wouldn't do that anyway. VIP/CR here is pretty much just a place where mileage increases exponentially......I really try to avoid it except for the open "social" areas......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tootsie
    bring up a topic and turn it into a conversation, such as where do you work? he'll say, and ask him questions, it will grow like a family tree.
    I avoid this tactic. It backfired for me because the guy had just gotten fired from his job and was there to "forget". Blah, I felt like a total bitch.

    I've always found getting them talking about their fantasies or sports/hobbies, etc are better. The main topics to keep away from are work/school/family.

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    see but at my club the VIP area is the champagne area and the couch room is a "cubicle" area where the dances are done. So when the girls sell champagne they sit up in VIP so you have to make conversation. dances are done in the back for faux privacy
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