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    Default I just don't get it!

    I've heard this talked about numerous times, and the most recent post prompted me to bring this up again....

    I just DO NOT GET why women go to strip clubs to make fun, belittle, be mean, laugh at, joke, etc, about the dancers? What ON EARTH do they gain by doing so? Is their self esteem really that low that they actually get pleasure by putting others down?

    As a semi-frequent woman customer, I have NEVER come across this before and was quite surprised to read about how often this is going on! I was especially surprised to hear about the women who go to the clubs for the SOLE PURPOSE of belittling the dancers. That is like Twilight Zone to me - I just don't get it!!
    I mean, I can kind of see how it might happen that a women would tag along with her man, and then while she's there realize how uncomfortable it makes her and she might cover that up by making fun of the women.....but to go to the club already in that state of mind -- for the sole purpose of hurting the dancers - that's just insane and makes no sense to me.

    I'm not even certain what I'm really asking here - I guess I"m just expressing my shock and disgust by women who behave in that way. And since it apparently seems (from what I"ve read here) that the majority of women who go to the clubs ARE in that hurtful state of mind, it gives good customers like me a bad name. And I guess that pisses me of!!

    I guess I just needed to vent.

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    Women who do that are just jealous they don't have the guts to be up on that stage shakin it and making money at it.....Jealousy is ugly.....

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    Jealousy really is ugly. I have never done this before, even before I was a dancer, I never ever did that to a dancer. It is ridiculous, and it really is the ones who are jealous.

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    I think it boils down to insecurity Rhi. When a woman sees her man taking pleasure in looking at someone else, it can be threatening to a lot of women, especially if they don't reall "get" what we are doing. We're viewed as a threat because the women think we actually WANT to be with their men..... if only they knew that all we really wanted to do was get them to part with their money.

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    This One Time In Minnesota I Was Working In A Small Town Bar. My Friend Was On Stage And She Is A Fuller Figured Girl

    I Heard To The Left Of Me Snickers And "she's Too Fat"
    Which These Girls Didn't Appear To Have Much Room To Tease.

    So I Came Over With A Big Smile On My Face. I Go Up To The Loudest One And Say "hey Didn't I Meet You A Couple Of Days Ago?"
    She Looked Puzzled
    I Say "where Do You Work?"
    She Says Over At The Walmart She;s A Cashier

    So I Say "now That I Know Where You Work I Am Going To Come Over And Harass You While Your Trying To Do Your Job"

    Smiled Big, Wiggled My Eyebrows And Walked Away

    Those B*tches Got Quiet In A Hurry.
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    That was BEAutiful !!!! I wish I could do that to some of the women that pissed me off.
    One time I had a group of girls call me over. They were so drunk that whenI got over there one told me to step aside because I was in her view.. I told her that she was the one that called me over, but whatever.
    Since she was so rude I told all the other dancers what had happened and they were careful to avoid that group for the rest night, which wasn't too long since they got kicked out for making a scene and one took off her top. Sheesh!
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    I don't get it either. I think these are women who can't cope with the fact that some other women make a living with their sexuality and so have to be hurtful about it. I try not to take it personally. They are the ones with the problem, not me!


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    I think it must provide some sort of ego boost or power trip for them or why else would they do it ? I look at it in the same light as someone who verbally abuses their partner and I feel it comes from a similar place within that person.

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    One of the most annoying things on the planet is a woman customer in a strip club getting all boisterous. Seems to me the women that behave this way are probably feeling slighted in terms of the attention being lavished on the performers.
    I have no problem with women enjoying the strip club experience, just don't come in trying to make a spectacle of yourself (same goes for men). Come to enjoy the entertainment, not be part of the show or bring the show down.
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    the funny thing is the hypocrisy. some of these women will say dancing is degrading to women, but making fun of other women isn't degrading to women??

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    I agree with some of the earlier sentiments.
    I think these women feel threatened by what I believe are often more empowered/confident women, be they dancers or other women in day to day life. They then take the opportunity to lash out at these women in perhaps the ONLY place that this type of behaviour might be tolerated socially, that being a dance club.
    I am sure that they probably sit at home or their jobs and have similar feelings of resentment to other successful women they view day to day, but where else for the price of a drink or two can they boost their weak egos at the expense of others.

    True the stereotype of dancers might include some negative images, and this is what allows these women the 'courage' to attack what they at some level most probably envy.

    OK well thats my 2 cents anyways, it takes a thick skin to stay with this job, when people try to boost themselves thru such negativity,try to just shrug it off, see it for what it is, and avoid the negativity...although I actually got a hell of a kick out of screamingpeaches solution..more power to you peaches!

    OK I guess this is now my 3 cents worth...but since thats Canadian cents I think its worth about 2 cents US lol
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    You know what I hate, when they come in, start complaining/belittling about the dancers
    "she's too fat"
    "she's ugly"
    "her boobs are weird"
    or whatever, and move on to
    "I can dance so much better!"

    and proceed to try! especially doing 'lapdances' or whatever that the club doesn't allow the dancers to do [no contact clubs, anyone?] and management just lets it go on. Or management intervenes and those customers, and other customers, complain loudly and bitterly. BLEH, a pox on all of 'em.
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    They're just exercising their rights, it's all part of that equal opportunity thingy. It used to be that only guys were allowed to be assholes. Now women can too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Bobo
    One of the most annoying things on the planet is a woman customer in a strip club getting all boisterous. Seems to me the women that behave this way are probably feeling slighted in terms of the attention being lavished on the performers.
    I have no problem with women enjoying the strip club experience, just don't come in trying to make a spectacle of yourself (same goes for men). Come to enjoy the entertainment, not be part of the show or bring the show down.
    Hmmmmm, you're right, but I have another perspective. When women go to a male strip club, the stage show is very interactive and women are encouraged to become energetic, boisterous, and to go to the stage yelling and screaming.

    On another thread a male mentioned that when he saw the difference in behavior bet male and female strip clubs, it appeared that the men were "stalking" the dancers by just quietly sitting there and staring at them instead of being more energetic and interactive. So perhaps these women are just behaving how they are used to behaving when someone is takin it off! I know that I can be that way when I go as a customer because that's just my personality.

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