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    Default A differing view of GWB

    For a differing view of GWB click on the link below, it is from a column taken from the Toronto Sun on March 12 th.
    http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Column...12/958009.html
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    Yep.

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    Uhhhhh......it's more complicated than that. I'm surprised that a columnist of apparent Indian or Middle Eastern decent is applauding our president's war.
    While I supported the war, now I regret it- one, it was sold to the world on LIES, and two, you haven't seen good American families crying at military funerals and trying to jump into the grave after their heroic children who died in uniform in Iraq, a f*cking sandbox full of groups of people who have been fighting over nearly nothing for thousands of years....
    There are other mitigating factors, like Yasser Arafat's timely passing, that have affected changes in the Middle East. It's not all "our boy"......
    *shuts up to let boiling in stomach subside*

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    War was sold to the people, the congress and the world on false pretenses. THAT's the problem.

    No doubt getting rid of Saddam was good, he's one of a dozen US-installed dicatators around the world that need to go....but that wasn't the premise for the war.

    As MadMaxine says, teh Arafat death and othre things certainly contributed to the "success" of the effort...even if the "successful outcome" wasn not predicted or described as the reason. Kind of like making a shot in pool you didn't call. GOod , but not what you intended and no good for a point.

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    I don't like war anymore than anybody else does, but the US economy is predicated on war and the jobs it creates, has been for the last 80 years at least. The US has supported both sides of almost any war/disagreement that has gone on for the last 40- 50 years, whether directly or indirectly. Remember Ollie North and Iran Contra. The US has supported Iran, Iraq, and pretty much everybody else at some point in time, but it is what they do behind the scenes that really fuels the economy. If someone you know signs up for the military, chances are they will be involved in some kind of disagreement between 2 countries. If you really think that Bush went to war over oil, keep thinking that and bury your heads in the sand. The US economy was heading for downturn at the time and what better way to create jobs then a war, whether legitimate or not. It creates jobs back at home, with munition companies, auto companies with jobs to build vehicles to use and planes to fly, it really is a trickle down effect. Whether you supported Bush or not a great many jobs were created by the war, and the material things you have are a result of this. The more people working the more people coming into strip clubs, the more you have to spend on yourselves. Think about people this war was about the economy and Bush trying to get reelected, and nothing else. You all have profited by this war whether you care to admit it, or realize it, stop being so naive.
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    War was sold to the people, the congress and the world on false pretenses. THAT's the problem.
    This alleged point of course goes back to speculation as to exactly what Saddam Hussein was up to in regard to chemical, biological, and potentially nuclear weapons .... what news along these lines was and was not reported by the 'mainstream' media .... and what evidence remains to be discovered along these lines .... particularly what evidence remains to be discovered across the Iranian and Syrian border (where massive truck convoys were observed to be transporting heavy equipment in the opening days of the Iraq war).

    Even the NY Times, who arguably had the most political motivation to kill any such stories prior to last year's election, has today at long last printed an article on the subject ...



    (snip)"For nearly a year, the two agencies have sent regular reports to the United Nations Security Council detailing evidence of the dismantlement of Iraqi military installations and, in a few cases, the movement of Iraqi gear to other countries. In addition, a report issued last October by the chief American arms inspector in Iraq, Charles A. Duelfer, told of evidence of looting at crucial sites.

    The disclosures by the Iraqi ministry, however, added new information about the thefts, detailing the timing, the material taken and the apparent skill shown by the thieves.

    Dr. Araji said equipment capable of making parts for missiles as well as chemical, biological and nuclear arms was missing from 8 or 10 sites that were the heart of Iraq's dormant program on unconventional weapons. After the invasion, occupation forces found no unconventional arms, and C.I.A. inspectors concluded that the effort had been largely abandoned after the Persian Gulf war in 1991.

    Dr. Araji said he had no evidence regarding where the equipment had gone. But his account raises the possibility that the specialized machinery from the arms establishment that the war was aimed at neutralizing had made its way to the black market or was in the hands of foreign governments."(snip)emphasis added

    You didn't seriously think that the impending Iranian nuclear threat arose out of a complete vacuum and independent research and development, did you ?

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