I though it was interesting without being offensive
http://www.paulkienitz.net/no-implants.html
I though it was interesting without being offensive
http://www.paulkienitz.net/no-implants.html
While I don't care one way or the other, this guy is a kook.
I'm sure the stats he quotes are 100% accurate...not.
Good Lord! All this can happen.
Pamela
Just another 48 reasons why I dont/wont have them lol.





I didn't get past number 1 because that one is incorrect. Even if the percentage of redo's is that high, it's to go bigger, not because of complications.




lovin mine, anyway!
i've got 2 reasons!
the way they look in my clothes.
the way they look out of my clothes.
"may your work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching, screw like your being filmed and drink like a true Irishman "--anonymous
"GOD is LOVE, but get it in writing"- Gypsy Rose Lee
http://www.myspace.com/screaminpeachez
Good link ! I already knew quite a bit of it but maybe having it here will inform some other people about why implants are not really very safe for them. I support whatever another woman wants to do with her body and all but I also think alot of people just don't know how badly getting implants can hurt them, short and longterm. Is looking more like what a person want top look like worth the health risks ? Well, sigh, that's each persons individual choice.
This part is particualry gross IMO :
7) They sometimes find cultures of microorganisms growing inside saline implants when they're removed. This is worrisome given that the newest implants contain vegetable oil... it could spoil. Saline, at least, is not a nutritious meal for bacteria. Even the silicone gel ones sometimes get some kind of mildewy looking stuff growing inside them... and each new fluid they've tried has been friendlier to microorganisms than the last one was.
And this is pretty disturbing too IMO : Two recent NIH studies of overall mortality of women with implants, one from the National Cancer Institute (Dr. Louise Brinton) and one from the FDA, found plenty of extra mortality relative to patients of other plastic surgeries. Causes included lung cancer, brain cancer, a few other cancers, other lung diseases.
And I really agree with these two points in the cases of extra, extra large ( bigger than a D cup) implants:
34) If you feel inadequate as a woman, the problem to address is in your head, not your chest.
36) Treating your own normal body as being defective is an act of self-hatred
But like I said in the begining of this post, I very much believe and support that a womans body is hers to with what she chooses but I can't help but shake my head at alot of boob jobs I see and say to myself "what the hell was she thinking" But hey if they are happy or happier with their implants then I say good for them and I hope that feeling lasts.
I am proud to be all natural and my choice is to stay that way![]()




He makes it sound worse than it really is,maybe it's for publicity.




It's an interesting read though who knows how much is true. If the guy is trying to state facts, he doesn't need to curse. It only makes a person wonder if he's just full of shit.





^ well now, this could get interesting.





The before and after pics? I thought those were a damn good boob job!!
Because there ain't no tits on the radio



Oh please..he needs to go back and get his facts straight..blah..I think people tend to forget that cosmetic surgery is just that a SURGERY. Of course there are risks and possible complications as in any medical procedure.
I had a very good surgeon tell me a while back when I was thinking about getting mine done that I should assume that I will have to have them replaced within the next ten years. That was a few years back and maybe there isn't as much of a risk of that, but this doctor just wanted me to be prepared because it often happens that women get capsular contraction.
When I had my nose done I had to have it done twice because my tip of my nose sort of "fell." I think the stitches didn't hold it up at first or something. I also had to sign all the waivers and be advised of a million risks, one of them death. I still got it done becuase I knew I wanted my nose done and I've never regretted it. It's just a question of how important it is to you. I guess that's why I'm still on the fence about whether I want bigger boobs. I don't hate the ones I have like I hated my nose.





Lets not forget too, that a good boob job is going to look fake for a long time. It's not gonna look real the next day....takes time. It takes about 6-12 months for things to fall into place & look natural.




as far as the article is concerned, i don't think he has done as much homework as the girls here have, especially the augmented ones.
if he wants to talk health reasons, fine.
but saline implants are FDA appoved.
and it sounds to me like he's got a personal vendetta against the things.
if i have to get them replaced, so be it.
and if i have to take them out, so be it.
if you have a good doctor, all of the risks are minimized. and my doctor left minimal scars.
so if they are ever taken out, i'll still look good!
i didn't go very large, but, even if i had i don't think that means i hate myself (all do respect to American dreams)
I like myself enough to work out, to watch what i'm eating, to get skin treatments and what other things that might be considered by some not accepting myself in my "natural form". I shave my legs. I dye my hair. I wear make-up!!
i have been blessed to be born in a day and age of relatively safe surgery, where i can do with my body what i want and have minimal consequences.
i say bring me the implants and let them eat cake!!!!
Last edited by screaminpeachez; 03-14-2005 at 08:49 PM.
"may your work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching, screw like your being filmed and drink like a true Irishman "--anonymous
"GOD is LOVE, but get it in writing"- Gypsy Rose Lee
http://www.myspace.com/screaminpeachez



I have implants and I love them! This doctor needs to check his facts before he goes and makes a crazy list. Implants aren't for everyone but this doctor is trying to say that no one should ever get them. He is definitely not being at all realistic about how many people have complications.
i've read this before. Something is not right with this guy. i have a hunch he was ditched by a woman with implants or is lashing out for some reason. He reminds me of the antiabortion EXTREMISTS or any extremist for that matter. Why does he care ???
Why didn't he make an anti smoking website, or anti cocaine website if he's so concerned with people's health and bodies ??? Dumba$$ ! something happened with a woman, I tell ya !
36) Treating your own normal body as being defective is an act of self-hatred
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What a bizarre thing to say ! So when we put on makeup or body lotion we are treating our bodies as defective ?? Or when we excercise to tone up we are defective ??
He is disturbing to say the least.





Agree.Originally Posted by screaminpeachez
This dude obviously doesn't know wtf he's talking about.



Actually, I have done tons of research ( and yes I have implants) I had acess to several studies because my girlfriend had major problems and was suing dow and what he says is correct . I read the same things he is mentioning in the studies I looked over and the books I have read on the subject. Just ask aussiepunkrocker she is very knowledgeable on the subject.




but, wouldn't you say that complications most frequently depend on the experience and knowledge of the plastic surgeon? also how educated the patient is on the subject?Originally Posted by michele1
most of these issues are due to poor placement, size and other variables controlled by the dr.
also, some of these issues are directly related to what the patient does after surgery i.e. smoking.
i think if one does research on their doctor and the surgery itself these problems are much less likely to happen
"may your work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching, screw like your being filmed and drink like a true Irishman "--anonymous
"GOD is LOVE, but get it in writing"- Gypsy Rose Lee
http://www.myspace.com/screaminpeachez



Actually no. If you educate yourself on implants and what they are made of you would know this. There are over 100 different carcinogens in the shell itself which can migrate around the body. Also anyone who does even a little ressearch knows that a foriegn object of any kinfd in the body is no good. The immune system constantly attacts it and can cause your immune system to break down hence auto immune disorders. It depends on your immune system though and how you take care of your body but these things can happen to anyone. Hardening of the implant and infection are more a result of a poor surgeon but the other symptoms are not.




Yep, what Michele1 says is right. There are just some complications that have nothing to do with the surgeon, no matter how good he is. Even babies are considered foreign objects when in the womb, and certainly implants are foreign. Some complications such as symnastia (unibreast) and bottoming out can be the result of a surgeon's lack of expertise.
I think the person who wrote that may have been dumped by a woman with implants, or he might really just hate implants, period. A lot of the things he listed are true, though. And the pictures are not pretty, either. Yuk. Of course he wasn't going to post pictures of the few nice implants that are out there--that wouldn't do any good in supporting his opinion, now would it?![]()




point taken on the "auto-immune" diseases you mentioned. that is a very valid and real issue.
but what i said earlier is that with the right surgeon and doctors, if you need to have them removed, you can with minimal negative consequences.
i am talking about women who are listening to their bodies and getting their check-ups.
having the mammograms,
paying attention to any changes in your breasts and bodies
and understanding the risks
i'm saying it was worth it for me, and i can stay healthy, which undoubtably is the ultimate goal. we all know that there are risks which is why it is such a difficult decision for most of us to make. and all of these issues should be considered. if you haven't considered them then you shouldn't get them.
"may your work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching, screw like your being filmed and drink like a true Irishman "--anonymous
"GOD is LOVE, but get it in writing"- Gypsy Rose Lee
http://www.myspace.com/screaminpeachez
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