Actually I think the stereotype youre referring to is dancer SO's living off the ladies (and being unemployed musicians etc). Of course there are probably some customers stereotypes Im not familiar with.Originally Posted by CalifSCVisitor65
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Actually I think the stereotype youre referring to is dancer SO's living off the ladies (and being unemployed musicians etc). Of course there are probably some customers stereotypes Im not familiar with.Originally Posted by CalifSCVisitor65
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Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.





There's a thread about how reading the blue site has changed your perceptions of customers. When a few blues explained how it changed their perceptions, the thread was moved to Ladies Only. One dancer said that blues must jerks, losers and dropouts.Originally Posted by Casual Observer
I think both pinks and blues are far more articulate and better educated than the the general population of dancers and customers. That doesn't necessarily make them kinder and gentler.





We are PLers; don't taint yourself hanging here




LOL Sh0t. I just took some time to "sneak" over to see what all the fuss was about on the pink side. All I will say is that some people have an abundance of pent up frustration permeating their existence.
A major thank goes to Nicolina and Cali for telling it like it is. Again, I won't speak for everyone when I say that your presence and input is always appreciated on the kinder gentler side.However, I would bet that appreciation is echoed by a good number of fellow junkies.
(edited to add Jenny to the list of those level headed women that I appreciate)
Although Kat has yet to post there, (would be like talking to a wall) I just wanted to add that she is always appreciated.
Yes, I am sniffing major onion. It's good wholesome onion too. lol
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SOME PEOPLE!!
Let's make a list
erotictonic
amylynn
those are gimps #1 and #2 so far




hahah. I was attempting to be your average politician.




Jenny's latest post is possibly the best critique of the entire SW site, bar none.
CP





no big deal





Juris Doctor here (in other words, lawyer) I'm supposed to be good for spending money on dancers, not for having a relationship with them.
BA with emphasis in accounting. One year of law school. Didn’t think my conscience would let me be a very good attorney. Besides I was broke and needed to get a job. Passed CPA exam 3rd time. Hate those eggheads who passed first try.




You know, the reason I didn't post a copy of Jenny's well-reasoned out comments was because I knew the thought police would delete them for just the reason JZ stated above.
This came up once before, and no one was able to provide an actual written rule regarding posting comments about LO topics outside the LO Forum. If y'all are gonna censor the lving sh*t out of this site, could you please at least provide a written set of guidelines? Oh yeah, that would be reasonable, and we know that don't fly, at least as it pertains to the blueballers.
CP (who fully expects this post to be edited more than a 1983 Pravda news release)




I gotta say I'm truly "LOL" from all the threads erupting from one little discussion over on the pink site. It's especially funny since it started in Stripping General, had a whole bunch of guys come in spewing BS, then got pruned/edited and MOVED to Ladies Only. People had their chance to contribute but some failed to do so as mature adults.
As I posted in the now-defunct Thorn thread, this is truly a demonstration of "..if the shoe fits.." People experience strippers for a variety of purposes, some for traditional means (rarely for bachelor parties, cake-popper parties or entertaining business guests), others due to specific arrangements (sexually dysfunctional wife/spouse aware of practice, or improvement and exploration factor with their participation), others due to some form of social or sexual ineptness or dysfunction (either single or married), and others due to other varieties of reasons.
When something erupts concerning one of the possible reasons and a perception of it being a 'mainstream' group, those with the loudest voices of discourse have to be uncomfortable with themselves or their practices. Obviously if it doesn't apply to themselves even in the least, there should be no harm/no foul... or if it does apply to themselves and it's actualized as self-rational, again- no harm/no foul. A backlash clearly illustrates something broken along those lines. Denial amongst dancers or customers? Nah, never happens!
I also have to "LOL" at the implied 'honesty' that is supposed to be illustrated on the blue-site versus the pink-site. Aside from a few key members who indeed are quite honest, I see the same ratio on both sites of those deluded or otherwise posting in major denial. It's no coincidence that the most 'honest' and actualized contributors on both sites are also the most unpopular across the pink/blue divide. Given human nature, if you're hated on both sites- I'd think this is the best example of being completely honest. Few have crossed that threshhold.
So.. if the shoe fits, wear it. Otherwise, what's all this static about it not fitting?
It doesn't matter if you're somebody in this world, it rather matters you mean the whole world to somebody.
Hey now, I'm honest, and everyone loves me.Originally Posted by polecat
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polecat, I never said that the blue-site guys were MORE honest than the pink-site posters, only that they were, in general, honest straightshooters. Of course, what the hell do I know--it's the Internet, after all. The anonymity is equally likely to promote honesty or deception. Perhaps I'm naive to believe that most of the regular posters on this board are expressing their honest opinions, but I haven't been given any reason to believe otherwise.Originally Posted by polecat
And, like Jenny, I prefer the less sugar-coated sentiments of the blue site posters to the more obsequious tone of some of the boys upstairs.
OTOH, I think I understand your emotional reaction to this whole thing, and I respect you for backing up a friend.
-Nic





I think he was talking about himself IACali.





Oh Good God.... IACali and Nicolina, you're naive to the max. We were supposed to learn the stuff you don't know in high school... you want a straight shooter? You got one right here.
Yea, Richard Head, you seem to have gotten it right. Polecat is the one that's deluded. Good God again....
Richard head you seem to be taking all this rather personally....
And yes, polecat is dead on as usual. He sees right thru the bullshit and all that.... fancy why we became fast friends... emotional? polecat wouldn't get emotional about a website in a million years. He calls it like he sees it, just like me. You wanna know the truth IACali and Nicolina? You need to make an alternate name and go in chat sometime when the blue ballers are all in there alone. All my ex bfs filled me in on the truth about some men a long time ago... Now you need to learn to fill in the blanks, or you're going to be picked up by some abuser who uses you. Yes, those of us who know the truth and say it aren't very popular but that is not how society is, is it? In everyday life, everyone puts on a mask just like here, some less so. No, mr. punk isn't well-liked by pinkies but I will give him total credit for being honest. I would much rather see a person who tells it like it is than someone who acts like two different people, one when the pinkies are around and one when just the blue ballers are.
If you are just doing this to make money from these guys I understand, but if you are being dead serious, I feel for you.
Polecat is merely saying "If the shoe fits, wear it" and by God, some people are.
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My mistake. I semi-interpretted your repeating of how honest, how straight-shooter, etc.etc. on your various and multitude of replies on that thread to possibly allude you might be insinuating the reverse on the pink site. Re-reading them a few times and with your correlation here, it does seem I'm mistaken in forming that opinion- they aren't truly forming a basis either way and very general depictions of the blue-site members as articulate, professional, educated, honest, etc.etc.Originally Posted by Nicolina
I also think one of the can of worms Thorn cited actually deserve merit. Non-anoymous musings of customer->service provider in a public forum can be... somewhat tainted due to symantics of proper business image. TRUE feelings in this arena are generally only shared in the locker room, break rooms or aside from public forums. Many blue siters are truly anonymous, where many pink dancers are not. This is why, at least locally, dancers are given truly private forums from which they can vent/throw stones with a certain degree of anonymous capability. Even at that, there are always 'double-agents' in the mix lol. (Pink site is no different, btw... just far more inefficiency).
Hmm.. I didn't feel anything overly emotional nor anything of 'backup' quality to asserting a 'shoe-fits' ideology to the reply here, which was identical in nature to my reply in Thorn's now-auto-ignored thread, and I can't say I've ever considered Thorn a 'friend' by any stretch of the imagination.OTOH, I think I understand your emotional reaction to this whole thing, and I respect you for backing up a friend.
But I *DO* understand your several-post flurry of emotional reaction to this whole thing to back up the customers found here, and respect you protecting your source of income.
It doesn't matter if you're somebody in this world, it rather matters you mean the whole world to somebody.




polecat and ET,
I don't dance anymore, so this has absolutely nothing to do with my income.
If I could understand why you were getting so upset about my defense of the guys over here, who I happen to like in a cyber context, then maybe I could respond better to your sudden, inexplicable outbursts of sarcasm and vitriol.




In response to PC:
I saw that thread over in LO back when Thorn assaulted the blue site and hadn't looked at it again until today. Let's put this into perspective here. If the thoughts generated in that thread were thoughts that I knew people in my RL circle felt towards me and those I associate with I might find it worthy of further exploration because I truly value good friendships. I'm a very picky person, not only in the club but also in RL because (as the ol saying goes) good friends are hard to find.
Thankfully, we're only talking about a thread produced with the sole purpose of bashing a select group of individuals. I commends Nicolina, Jenny, and Cali for "shooting straight" and injecting some realism into an otherwise misguided thread.
Now, I haven't professed to have met all of the junkies although I would like to hook up with a few of them at some point in the future. I can only go on the perception of who they are based on what they type on a message board. In other words, it's all a blur. Hell, I am absolutely positive there are some that don't particularly care for me because of what I occasionally divulge. I'm not really here to please everyone. I'm here to interact just the same as many others on this board. If, along the way, someone thinks I am A OK then great. If not then that's great too..lol
I have become acquainted in RL with three lovely ladies from the SW world and enjoyed every minute spent with them. You can only gain so much from interacting on a message board. Having said that, "some people" profess to know the blue site posters as though they grew up with us side by side joined at the hip. (laughable)
Therefore, a reaction to that post in LO isn't necessarily someone getting stirred up because they've had an epiphany after reading that thread. Moreso, it's the natural born instinct to protect yourself in the field of battle. Fortunately Jenny, Nicolina, and Cali are warriors in their own right.
*NEWSFLASH* We're not the snivelling little idiot that's begging for your attention with starry eyes, a week's pay, and delusions of grandeur. Most of the blue posters, from what I gather, are light years ahead of the former.
Smile, enjoy, interact, be yourself, and keep your bankroll close to your vest (until that momentary special someone walks into your line of sight). Then give her what she came for.





No one is upset. You are confusing being upset with calling it like it is. You need to realize, you are very naive. That's all my post was about. If you like people who would rather see you giving them free blow jobs, hooked on crack cocaine and dying, be my guest. I choose to talk to people who care a little about me and women in general. Alot of these guys are fooling you in a BIG way. Like I said, not all. You know who you are, and if you aren't that way, you wouldn't be getting upset in the first place, not to mention calling me names.Originally Posted by Nicolina




LOL ET. You really are laughable. Do you honestly believe that the average person would just sit idle by as you flaunt your abrasive peronality while verbally assaulting them without a second thought?
Pink and blue aside... There are likeable people in this world and there are also those that thrive on getting a rise out of others. I, personally, tend to steer away from the latter. However, the words you lay down on a daily basis are off base in a major way. Perhaps your own life experiences have led you to have these beliefs. Hey, that's your deal. I absolutely have no problem with standing up and telling you a litle bit about how you're perceived by others (or just me). Whether you care or not. As I said, that's on you. One thing is for sure, I won't sit idle by and let you believe the world is painted in colors that only you can see. I've never done it in RL and most definitely won't do it on a message board.
Have a good night.




Thank you for the best example of my '..shoe fits..' assertion in real-world practice.Originally Posted by Moneywise
Because you do not think the musings found in that thread apply to you, you don't feel any direct or abrupt need to counter or argue with it. Alternatively, the only reaction you've had to it is a slight curiosity if maybe you've been judged in a certain way in the past or present. This shows a firm understanding of one's position- one that is denial-free.
Other blue-siters that may feel it applies to them, but are of solid standpoint in their beliefs and principles, also do not feel the need to counter or argue as such either. They are just simply disinterested.
Most shitstorms are the product of 'striking nerves'... that was my assertion. Those shitstorms usually also include victims painting others as things they are clearly not- such as upset or angry, etc.etc.
It doesn't matter if you're somebody in this world, it rather matters you mean the whole world to somebody.




PC: Here's anothe tidbit about yours truly. I'm a man that's very in touch with his emotions. Always have been. Therefore, I am most likely to step forward when I see something that just doesn't seem right.
Just a little more to help you formulate your opinion.
I'm really going to bed now. Have a good night. I'll respond after work because I like to step forward.





Oh yea, MW? Well then why did I just visit chat and catch ShOt calling me a hoebag and a gimp? I suppose that is just a delusion, right? YOU are the one that is deluded. Wake up. And I should believe that guy ShOt is a great guy eh? If I wanted to be perceived by others as a sugar-coated naive girl who stands by her man thru thick and thin, I could be. But I don't want to be. I'm a straight shooter and I call it like I see it. Abrasive? sure. But I would rather see someone who is abrasive than someone who hides behind a mask.Originally Posted by Moneywise
Maybe you are actually the great guy you say you are and maybe you are not. But I do know that most of the guys over here are so deluded they can't even tell when they are putting down women anymore it's so ingrained. And then some of them like ShOt and mr. punk choose it. So hell, if they can choose to want me below them, I choose to want them below me, and they are in my mind. ShOt hides it, but I've caught him enough in chat and thru friends telling me. How many more of you are hiding it?




ET,
I don't think I have said one unkind or judgemental thing about you, either here or in the LO thread. You, however, have repeatedly called me naive, despite the fact that you know NOTHING about me beyond what I have posted on an internet forum.
I'm naive because....why? Because I believe that JZ is really a nice guy? Because I enjoy Sporty's wacky posts? Because I like arguing with mr. punk? How does that make me naive? I have no desire to argue with you here. I really tried to de-escalate things in the LO thread, but you seemed to misunderstand my gestures and become more and more argumentative and upset.
I'm done with this now. I really don't understand why you followed me over here to berate me for being naive when I never said one nasty thing about you, but whatever. I'm gonna go have some fun now with all the guys over here who would rather see me coked out and offering free blowjobs on the corner![]()
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