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    Default Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    I have a certain amount of cash for LDs and tips and so I tell the dancer up front that I want 6 dances from her. I tell her to stop when that time comes. She stops and then says, oh, I'm sorry, I believe that was seven dances and looks toward my wallet. Now is she entitled to this extra 'bump' after making the agreement up front or do I look like a dick and refuse to pay her for the extra dance?

    Is this normal or was I ripped off?

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    if you tell her 6 and she doesn't stop, i'd confront and say that you only wanted 6 and you told her up front. dancers like that make it hard for the rest.
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    I much prefer it when a custy tells me what he wants or how much he wants to spend up front. That way we don't have to stop and count, you know the drill.

    So I think you were ripped off. Perhaps not on purpose, or maybe it was on purpose and she was just trying to get that extra from you. I woulda given her the money for the 6 dances and a nice tip (half a dance price, maybe), then made a mental note and not gotten dances from her again.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    Perhaps he wasn't ripped off, I have done that and not on purpose. It's easy to do, between talking and working to be sexy - and like at my club, we sell mostly two for ones. So six dances that he requests would all in all make twelve total. Thats a lot!

    I would give that dancer another try and if she does it again, well hey - you did get scammed. But better to be sure than to lose out on something good. Just MHO.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    you got 7 and you know it. pay for what you got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej
    you got 7 and you know it. pay for what you got.
    That's out of line, in my opinion.

    Imagine you go to get your car fixed. You tell them exactly what you want and you sit there and let them do their thing. You shouldn't have to hound them so they don't do other stuff you didn't ask for....and then try to charge you for it.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    If you believe you really did do 7 dances, you should pay the dancer for the 7th song, let her know you don't appreciate being taken advantage of (if you believe that's the case) and that you will not be getting dances from her again.

    If you think it was an honest mistake, then pay her and let her know that next time YOU will be keeping track of the dances.


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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    no he shouldnt be scamming his dancer. I get so tired of scammers who do that. Thats why I like bouncers with size 12 boots.
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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    I also get tired of scammer dancers who take advantage of the customers and then rely on the bouncers to scare the guy into paying.

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    hmmm. its 20 bucks... so take the loss now and pick a new favorite dancer.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    ^ Agreed.

    Alternatively, the best way to avoid this is to pay in bulk up front, as I'm frequently wont to do.

    This accomplishes two things:

    --The dancer knows she's getting paid and for how many dances, which in my experience always leads to better quality dances.

    --Any and all ambiguity regarding the number of dances you want is removed from the equation entirely, placing the burden of accountability on the dancer and/or dance counter.

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    Well BFinTraining ~ that sounds like a scam of sorts and crappy........ but if she actually did 7 dances instead of 6 it's also wrong not to pay for the services rendered.

    However, you might be surprised to know this but customers try to scam dancers like this ALL the time. They say they paid for more dances than they recieved and either try to get a free dance out of it or they try to get us to give them the cost of a dance.

    In the future, keep count of the dances and stop when YOU are ready to stop that way you avoid potential scams. I say basicaly the same thing to dancers. Keep count and get paid beforehand or immediatly after each dance... to avoid scammers.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej
    no he shouldnt be scamming his dancer. I get so tired of scammers who do that.
    Scammers who do what? Make it clear up front what they want to purchase, then expect to pay the agreed price for it?
    Thats why I like bouncers with size 12 boots.
    OK, I'll see your bouncers and raise you the nearest DPD and my legal team...

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    I dunno,it could be exactly as everyone described.A million different ways to look at it.

    I would suggest next time,also count the dances.If you only paid for 6,then stop at six.
    Sometimes dancers and custies lose count,chit happens during a few songs lapdance to fog the mind,so it is always best for both to count.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    PanDah...... at least 3 times a week I get customers who say they want x number of dances and then after I give them x number of dances sit there and insist that I shorted them and then they try to either shortchange me or try to get me to give them another (free) dance.

    Not saying BFinTraining did this just that it does happen regularly.

    Scams unfortunatly happen on both sides in stripclubs
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    Indeed they do and it's sad. I always try to give my guys the best they can get . I've found that pausing in between helps a lot. That way the guy and his gal' can chit chat and visit. Also, as has been suggested, it -is- a VERY good idea to pay up front when getting a bulk amount of dances from a certain chicklet.
    Dancing girls are kind of touchy about their money and this too is understandable, then again most of us don't have to scam to make the dollars. IMHO as always.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    Hello~Kitty, I'm sure that happens lots, and if a newbie dancer posted a story like that I would be joining the chorus and pointing to AmyLynneJ's comment as the preferred solution. But that's not what this story was about. He wasn't claiming he was shorted and demanding more; it seems both parties agree that she charged for more than he said he wanted (whether she danced that many may be open to question). I can't see how he is scamming anyone, nor do I think he's responsible for keeping his own count if he "placed an order" for a certain number. Yes, it would be smart, but should not be required.

    As far as the "mistakes happen" theories, I find it difficult to believe she lost count of the dances somewhere between #4 and #7, but then miraculously remembered the count at the end of number 7, though I admit it could happen that way if she counts at the end by checking stage rotation as many of the girls at my club do. In either case, the mistake was hers, so it's not wrong to expect her to take the loss.

    If it were me, I personally like tampafldancer's approach, and probably would have posted something similar if others hadn't started jumping down his throat for asking the question, like he had done anything wrong.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    If he got seven dances he needs to pay for 7. End of story.
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    PanDah......I think you are misunderstanding my position here. Maybe take a read of my first comment on this thread. I think you'll find you and I are in more agreement here than
    disagreement

    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    that is why i never get more than 1 at any time
    may take them more than once

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    I think she was definately working you over, but you also could have stopped her after 6. I just got ripped off by a customer who told me in the beginning that he was "light". 6 Dances later, he pulls out $20. That's all he had that day, and what he meant by light.

    So we were both at fault. He should have told me to stop after I did one dance and he didn't. I should have asked him what he meant by "light" but didn't want to ruin the fantasy and got screwed.

    Its not a blame game, and in your case it was only $20. In my case I got screwed, almost literally, out of $100.......

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    That's just it - I didn;t count the dances at all - I left it up to her, the professional , to understand what I had and when to stop. How could you call me a scammer???? If she had said 12 - I should just pay it??

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    No, I think that, in this case, it was her responsibility to stop at 6. If you told her to just keep dancing until you said stop...and then she did 7 dances and you only "had" money for 6...then you would be a scammer and would deserve an assisted walk-out. However, being that you told her up-front exactly how many dances you had money for...she should have just taken the loss.

    I have had customers tell me that they want x amount of dances. In those cases, because I know that MOST people do not like to pay in advance when they don't have to...I will request to SEE the money...and then when I've verified they have it, I will do the x amount of dances. I did, on one occasion, do more than was requested (by my own fault, losing count) and told him so. But, I said, "oopsy...you got a freebie!!" And, just sucked it up as my loss. The customer's job, once he makes his dance number known, is to get lost in the fantasy...very few people can "lose" themselves while counting dances.

    In this case, you were not the scammer, IMHO...she was.
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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    there are a couple girls at my club that are notorious for doing this. There was a bachelor party and one of these girls went in the VIP to give some dances and the guy paid her for them. All seemed to be cool so far. Eventually, the guy got tired of her and wanted another dancer but this girl would NOT leave his side and he didn't want to be rude and tell her to leave. Anyway, the guy gets so drunk that he passes out and an hour later (with the girl still sitting by him) the girl tells his group that the guy didn't give her like $100 for dances! Now, you ladies all know that we ask for our money either up front or right after the dances are over. Anywho, I know this was long, but I hate it when girls pull this shit- it makes us all look bad. I think it's always best to do one dance and then tell the guy to just tell you when he wants you to stop- then if he doesn't tell you, it's his bad and he should pay.

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    Default Re: Oops, I miscounted your dances, sweetie...

    I also don't understand why BFinTraining should pay for something he didn't want (that being the 7th dance) I mean, of course you'll take it if it's offered, but you already told her you didn't want to pay for it. It's kinda like going to buy a BMW or something. If you buy one and then get another one on accident, of course you're not gonna bitch, but you don't wanna pay for it either. (I'm not really sure if this analogy fits, but you girls get my point)

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