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    First I have to say, I don't give a shit about Jane Fonda, or her book. Why people are are so enamored with celebrities is beyond me.

    What upsets me are the people who have been calling into the talk shows in support of this man and saying he was justified in what he did. He assaulted her, plain and simple. People seem to now feel that if enough people agree with your position, that it’s okay to break the law and not suffer the consequences of your actions. My feeling is that this attitude is filtering down from Washington from the likes of people like Tom Delay, who advocate violence against judges who don’t rule the way he thinks they should. People bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors because they say they are doing God’s work and man’s law don’t apply to them. Or tree huggers who vandalize SUVs because they are protecting Mother Nature. It’s almost to the point that if you say something about detrimental about GW Bush, you’re libel to get assaulted because you’re a traitor and the assailant is just being patriotic.

    What worries me is that more and more peoples attitude is changing to where they feel justified breaking the law because, “the law doesn’t apply to my situation”.

    I blame the Republicans.

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    Now why don't you consider all the nice, polite, calm and courteous Democrats who have taken to the street 'in protest' and assaulted police officers, people just standing around, broken windows. Burned a Bank to the ground, blocked traffic, attacked conservative college professors, students, politicians et all...

    The blame lies on both sides of the isle, but I think you'd have a very hard to place the majority of the blame on the Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eques
    Now why don't you consider all the nice, polite, calm and courteous Democrats who have taken to the street 'in protest' and assaulted police officers, people just standing around, broken windows. Burned a Bank to the ground, blocked traffic, attacked conservative college professors, students, politicians et all...

    The blame lies on both sides of the isle, but I think you'd have a very hard to place the majority of the blame on the Republicans.
    I don't defend the crackpots who partake in the violence descibed by you, and I haven't heard of any Democratic leaders justifying or advocating violence in the way Tom DeLay has. What scares me is that rather than the fringe element operating outside the rule of law, is that many mainstream people feel justified in ignoring the law because of whatever rationale they feel applies at the time.

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    Todays democrat leaders were the people who did said actions in the past. One doesn't need to condone what one has done already. And even then democratic senators, leaders, groups like moveon etc... have condoned said actions.

    As far as the 'maintstream' operating outside the law. Very doubtful. Countless people have spat on someone they despire/got angry at the moment with etc... That’s not cause to fear anarchy. Likewise what you are doing is taking the actions of the 'crackpots' and then expressing free that the 'mainstream' will behave similiary. IE, Punching you for not liking Bush because some crackpots feel justified in attacking an abortion clinic.
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    Default Re: Kansas City man spits on Jane Fonda

    Quote Originally Posted by KC Joe
    First I have to say, I don't give a shit about Jane Fonda, or her book. Why people are are so enamored with celebrities is beyond me. What upsets me are the people who have been calling into the talk shows in support of this man and saying he was justified in what he did. He assaulted her, plain and simple.
    true, given the animosity of some veterans toward jane fonda. i'm surprised that something like this didn't happen to her sooner. yeah, he's a real big man for spitting on a woman who did nothing to him. anyway, i don't read anything deeper into the incident.
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    You're not being fair to the spitter... first of all he said he no problem being arrested for it and would do it again. He also said that he was spit on by a whole line of people waiting for him when he returned from 'nam and he does hold her directly responsible. Anytime you stand up for something like she did you have to realize you're risking stuff happening to you. Personally, I don't think we are in a position to question any war because we are not in possesion of the majority of facts as much as the government. And yes, I was on 2 hour recall to go to war arriving within 18 hours anywhere in the world i.e. 20 hours from potential battle at any moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malak
    Personally, I don't think we are in a position to question any war because we are not in possesion of the majority of facts as much as the government.
    Like when the Bush administration knew all about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction when no one else did?

    This country has a long tradition of civil disobedience in which people have been willing to accept the punishment for openly defying laws. In some cases political conservatives have practiced it; in other cases, liberals.

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