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    Maybe this should be in the newbie section, but some of this may have relevance to experienced dancers as well, so I shall rely on the forbearance of my fellow moderators...

    Do not, under any circumstances, send a guy to tell the DJ what you want, unless he already knows him, and you cannot possibly go yourself. I have only had this happen a few times (like 3 tops), but every time it happens, I like it less, and next time I might make a point to correct it.

    The one who did that tonight was a brand new and very nervous girl, who actually was a sweetheart, so I understand why now--but it is easy for a DJ to take offense and view this as disrespect, especially if the guy is an idiot and regardless of his intent. She actually did very well later--I sent her out with the same dancer as I will tell you about next at the end of the night. I had to go into the dressing room and talk her into it, she was so scared--but she is a natural, so she will do very well. It was kind of sweet to see her doing so well when she was so shy.

    Do not exclaim "I can't dance to this shit!" when your song starts, even if only one other person but the DJ can hear it. I had a veteran (but not very professional) dancer do this to me tonight, when the jury-rigged DVD player came on instead of the CD I had put in--which was what she wanted. Since there are no rules at this club, and she has a rep for not tipping, I told her exactly what the situation was while I corrected the problem, which made her look pretty stupid.

    Do not dance for a guy and expect him to pay you later--one of the very charming Polish cousins did this tonight for a couple of young Daytona stud-boys, and got ripped for two dances. She has been dancing for a while, so she should know better, but I have seen a lot of dancers do this.

    Do not give up on the night when there are still two hours left. A dancer did this tonight but I convinced her to go onstage though she had made nothing, and usually stays off the stage, and she did so well that she tipped me twice the mandatory. The music helped, of course.
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    Awww, I was just gonna do that


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    Bad, bad Whirlerz!

    What a night last night was, lol--so much was going on, and not all of it was good. I could write a book about this place, lol...

    This is probably the toughest club I have ever worked in. The hiring standards are much better than they were a while back, but there are still a lot of unprofessional dancers there. But the money is great for Daytona, and every shift I work is seeing an improvement in the situation.

    Fortunately there are many dancers there who appreciate a really good DJ who isn't just trying to fuck them, and they are a big help. You wouldn't think it was a big deal to actually figure out what a dancer likes and play it without being asked, but it seems to be the case. It shouldn't take more than a month to do this, for chrissakes. It usually takes me less than a night to figure it out, and I have literally done it in 30 seconds.

    The management, hard as they are to please, has been very appreciative as well, which is great for a change.
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    Oh Em Eff Gee yes! So SO SOSOSOSOSOSO true!!

    I see a lot of girls who, when working in a club who have rules about what genres of music get played, send a customer to "request" a song to see if the DJ will play it if a customer asks. Drives our DJs nuts. Drove me nuts when I DJ'd too.

    And the girls who scream and sulk and tantrum on stage about a song they dont like? SO not classy. Egads. Hi, there is nothing sexy about acting like a 4 year old.
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    The one i really hate.....

    An entertainer ask for a song that isnt on format.
    Dj tells her "no cant play it"

    Dancer sends 2-3 custies over to ask for the same song.

    argh!!!!!!!!!!

    BTW.
    as for screaming at the dj from stage....
    ha ha neener neener!!!
    It doesnt happen to me to often!!!!!
    Depending on the manager,its either a 75 dollar fine or a"pack yer shit,hit the door"offense.At the very least,the dancers next set,she will be dancing to the Barney Theme!

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    ooooops...


    what paige said!!!

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    OMG the barney theme!!!!! That's harsh.
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    But then again if they act like that they deserve it.
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    If a dancer is going to yell shit at the guy with the mike, she is making a big mistake. I have had a couple of problem dancers that I destroyed utterly for pulling shit like this. But they really, really asked for it.

    One of them, I am happy to say, became really good friends with me, and when the manager and I had an inevitable falling out and I told him I wanted less nights, she wound up screaming at him in front of the whole club on a night the big fat idiot he got to cover those nights was there. She said "We need (insert my name here) back! This guy sucks!". I loved her forever for that, lol.
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    I think girls need to be told too when they start work about the DJ tipping thing. Ive been dancing for a long while now and onyl found out about tipping the DJ a couple months back. Nobody talks about it but everyone else (House mom, bar people) are pretty quick to talk about tipping themselves.

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    Oh how I love the "Well he told me no, perhaps if I send custies to ask for the same slow shitty song he'll change his mind" ploy. Like I haven't seen you sitting with the guy immediately beforehand. Dur. Oh, and there are far worse things than the Barney theme, yes indeed. Of course I would never ever ever do such a thing. Nor do I have a burned cd simply marked "BITCH". Nope. Not me.
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    I have yet to do that, play a really bad song as punishment. I figure that would make me look bad too--though ripping a girl up on stage on the mike isn't exactly the pinnacle of professionalism, lol. When I have done this it's very short and to the point, though, and the majority of customers haven't a clue what's up.

    So do you play the whole Barney song, or just a part of it to demonstrate the power, lol?
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    I've seen some girls get that down home version of "The Mississippi Squirrel" on stage because they had PO'ed the club DJ off so bad. It's like ticking off the people who make your food, not a wise choice.

    Rhiannon
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    PS: When I'm a poor gal and cant tip in monetary ways, I give neck rubs, homemade cookies and other assorted goodies to my DJ just to show him that he is loved.


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    Be very careful about how you piss off a dancer, you guys...
    I once had a dj who had a mean on against me ( Iwasn't interested in sleeping with him, and made it quite clear) So he started palying country and stuff like Frank Sinatra thinking he was going to piss me off and bore the customers. Well, I loved it and made tons of cash!! It was like the more outrageous the music he played, the better I did!!! He even played parodies and stuff like weird Al Yankovich, and I worked it, and made awesome cash.

    Obviously this guy lacked talent and professionalism, and had no idea that guys love a girl who doesn't take herself too seriously. He had pretty limited taste in music anyway (speed metal and hard alternitive rock was about his only stuff he liked).

    I have known girls that purposefully play childrens music on stage (not even as a theme set), so the Barney theme might not even do the trick. I can't seem to make the Carpenters work however. "The Rose" might do the trick also as far as a song to completely kill the mood in the room, but you will have a bunch of girls who are trying to lap dance jump down your throat.

    Adam Sandler has some cool stuff that keeps the guys cheery, but can really piss off the dancers. I love to dance on stage to "at a medium pace" and "she comes home to me". But most dancers would rather shave their heads then dance to those kind of songs.

    Good luck you guys at controling your harems!

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    as far as music, no dj will have what i play. most of it is impossible to buy in the us. so i burn cds and they play that. pretty simple, no issues. it's all music i like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxicgirl
    as far as music, no dj will have what i play. most of it is impossible to buy in the us. so i burn cds and they play that. pretty simple, no issues. it's all music i like.
    Oh, Some dj's will have it, I assure you. I have most of the stuff I have seen you list on here.
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    Also, just to clarify, I don't do the "songs as punishment" thing, either. While i do have cd's of "muppet hits" and such, they're mainly for the end of the night and things like that. I'm really not that petty. I've played snippets of songs before I know the girl hates, but always as a joke between us, not as a power trip thing. Anyway, if I want to powertrip there are much better, stealthy and nasty ways to get my point across without upsetting the flow of the room.
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    yes, please, i would hope you guys aren't the power tripping "punishment" types. we REALLY hate those guys. i worked with one of those a few years back. i never got shit from him because i am a great tipper. once as he was collecting tips at the end of the night he wrote LOSER next to the girls name that gave him a small tip, not to mention all the really bad shit he would play for some girls.

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    Gotta admit though i've been in clubs where the DJ hasnt got a clue what the hell is sexy and plays hardcore crap like drum n' base and house thats more fit for a gay guys night out. SOme DJs definitely deserve the cuss off becuase they dont have a clue and therefore make all the girsl lose money.
    I have seen customers walk in clubs, stand there listening to the music for 5 minutes then walk out saying the girls are fine but the musics giving them a headache.
    What about those DJs that play the music so loud we have to shout to talk to customers? Do they not deserve to be told their wrong?

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    You are quite correct, Charlygirl, there are some really bad DJs out there, I have had to work with some of these idiots!

    It's why advice has to be tempered a lot when talking about dealing with DJs and dancers alike. There are some really bad examples of each, and I have seen them all, lol.

    Like keeping track of who tips--I couldn't be bothered. I know who tips me, and why not if they come to me and talk to me about it. Its so anal to keep lists, I even know DJs who keep lists of VIPs the girls do to see what they should be tipping.

    Playing bad music is self-defeating--I cannot abide a bored woman onstage. I want her liking it, regardless of whether we are annoyed at each other. If some one deliberately tries to make me look bad from the stage I'm going to stop it fast, though. But none of you would ever do that, I'm sure.
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    Speaking of dj's and behavior...

    Wow, last night was hellish! It was the amateur contest, and as much as I love seeing unfamiliar and new gals, if this was the standard routine, I'll be skipping it.

    Two dj's - one in the booth; one on stage. Both trying to ply their comedic wares. Both coming across as colossal bores - loud, obnoxious and just rude. An amateur contest with 5 contestants took a freaking hour because the yahoos wouldn't stop yukkin' it up. Plus they would make fun of the girl's names and even get them wrong - repeatedly.

    I know it was all in fun, but it really wasn't.

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    I don't really keep track of my tips all that much either, honestly. I always do well. The only two ways I notice is if a girl always tips the minimum no matter what she asks you to do for her, or if a girl always tips ridiculously. These things get noticed, of course. Nor do I keep track of VIP's really, with the only exception being one girl who goes back regularly for 4 hours at a stretch with this one custie and still tips the minimum with TWO extra dollars. WOW THANKS I'LL GET THAT PACK OF GUM I'VE HAD MY EYE ON, BABY.

    Oh and Afx, I loathe loud abrasive obnoxious HAHA ARENT I THE FUNNY dj types. shut up. seriously. I joke around a little bit of course, but never in the way you mention. I know several guys who do though and it makes my sphincter pucker. At one club here they hired such a guy, and the owner LOVED him. In fact it went so far as during a meeting asking us other guys why we couldn't be more like DJ X? uh....because he's f'n irritating is why. blah.

    Also, bad music isn't ALWAYS the dj's fault. Some of you girls like some horrifyingly craptastic stuff. We're trying to play the middleman and keep both sides of the equation happy. Anyway, that's a topic that's been beat to death and I'm rambling as usual. Peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChristopher
    Oh and Afx, I loathe loud abrasive obnoxious HAHA ARENT I THE FUNNY dj types. shut up. seriously. I joke around a little bit of course, but never in the way you mention. I know several guys who do though and it makes my sphincter pucker. At one club here they hired such a guy, and the owner LOVED him. In fact it went so far as during a meeting asking us other guys why we couldn't be more like DJ X? uh....because he's f'n irritating is why. blah.
    At this one club I worked in a while back, the management liked a guy who made a fart noise when a girl bent over. I guess they thought he was "livening up the crowd." He would also shriek randomly into the mike.

    Later--I forgot, I'm always the one stopping fights wherever i work, but when i heard I told the girl to go slap him if he did it again, lol...
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