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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Heres my two centavo's.


    There is another side to stripping,not just the females.
    If we have one,and we do,they deserve thier own section to discuss exactly what the females say they need thier own section for.
    Yes the industry is dominated by female entertainers,but why exclude the males???
    We could have more then one.

    Outside of following links into that section by mistake,i stay the hell outta there,I dont even have an interest in what is being said.
    The guys room is over here: http://www.stripclubjunkie.com

    If you want to be in Ladies Only so bad or feel that you are being discriminated against, then simply take some hormones, get a boob job, lob off the penis and you'll be welcomed.

    Other than that...quit complaining. This is STRIPPERWEB. For exotic dancers/strippers. Men do NOT have to be allowed here...but Pryce has chosen to open the doors to everyone. When it got to the point that the WOMEN who the site was intended for could not type anything without have testoterone replying...Pryce implemented LO so we could talk with others without the men putting in their two cents.

    Is that so hard to understand? Think of this as a club environment. Customers/men are allowed in all areas of the club...except the dressing room. If you don't like that, then please go picket your local strip club for more access...when you succeed at doing that, then maybe we'll be more allowing of letting the penises into the Ladies Only area.

    Think of it as the ladies room.
    Now its time to build a pisser for the guys,or just come right out and say,male strippers are not as welcomed here,and we have no intention of reccognizing them in the future as professional entertainers.
    Fine...maybe we should rename it DANCERS ONLY. That would not help the few CUSTOMERS who would still feel slighted that they cannot reply there. So, what gives?

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    This is a dumb thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    So what? This is a female dominated website. Sorry, but i'm here unbanned. I'll play by their rules, even if i push them sometimes.
    So you believe in "Know your place in this world and don't you forget it?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    Sorry, but this whole line of thinking is retarded.
    It's not retarded, it's hitting to close to home. It is a group of "second class citizens" who grouch about being second class citizens because of their job making yet another class of people second class citizens because of their genetics. Hell, I'm not even a customer.

    We don't practice what we preach. The reality is, this is not a female dominated web site. It's male dominated as in Pryce. _He_ is the last ultimate authority.

    I'll let the thread die out. It has been interesting to read your responses to it.

    Thanks!

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    It's actually Pryce AND GirlFriday,an equal 50/50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    It's actually Pryce AND GirlFriday,an equal 50/50.
    True. Also, it would be a bit different IF all but a few of the strippers on this site were not women. Ladies' Only is more like Strippers Only. And yes, if I went on a board where say, engineers came to gather, and I joined, I would be expected to be treated differently, because I am not an engineer. Or if I went into a gay bar, I would be treated differently because I am not gay. When you decide to hang with a certain subculture, but you are not one of them, then you can be expected to be treated differently than those who "belong" to it. You choose that existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    So you believe in "Know your place in this world and don't you forget it?"
    Dude. SW isn't "this world." It's a website on the internet. Sheesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    It's not retarded, it's hitting to close to home. It is a group of "second class citizens" who grouch about being second class citizens because of their job making yet another class of people second class citizens because of their genetics. Hell, I'm not even a customer.
    Easy enough to just flip to blue. There you aren't second class (if that's the term of the day). And, sorry, i just don't buy the guys that say they aren't custies. I don't really believe them. Why would they even have interest if that wasn't the case? Unless they are strictly here looking for ass, or they work in the industry, why would a non-customer guy even care enough to type "stripper" into google? Naked pics all over the net...

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    We don't practice what we preach. The reality is, this is not a female dominated web site. It's male dominated as in Pryce. _He_ is the last ultimate authority.
    It's male dominated? If all the women left, what would happen? And pryce *webmasters* it. That's a different thing. I *know* i've done it. You really have controll over the code, not your members. He rarely even posts (though i wish he would post, at least on this issue).

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    women have been told...and are still being told what our 'place' is in the world...whatever the fuck that is...and now you want to complain about a forum that's only open to women?...

    i attended a seminar at work...'powerful communication for women'...geared toward women in corporate america...when we get back...i hear 'so...did you enjoy the 'man hater's' class...

    WHYYYYY is it that when women have a women's only thing...men get all bent out of shape and start whining...

    gender biases are not the same as the women's only forums of the world...

    fellas...i'll say this again...sometimes we don't want your input...and for some of us...our lives DON'T revolve around you...or your desires...accept that fact and move on...

    thank you...
    why do some people still have to fight to get the same opportunities that are given to others?

    reclusiveness...is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    You still don't get what I am saying.

    I am saying men are the "coloreds" on this board. Don't you be thinking you can sit at this lunch counter!!!

    Anyhow, it is not that important to me. Not as important as banning "Free Ladies Night" - another of my pet peeves in the world.
    Get a hobby.

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    Huh???You don't like "Free Ladies Nights"???Am I missing something here???
    One of woman's cardinal rule: Body parts can be fake,everything else has to be real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    Get a hobby.
    Got one!

    Seriously though - this is turning into a bash Deo fest. It's interesting though, to read the comments people are making. Maybe when you all cool down and take a read again, you might see what I am seeing.

    Someone mentioned about an engineers board or other sub-culture board - I am members of such things and we don't divide the line between women and men there. It's more of an "us" and "them" mentality. This sub-culture does enforce gender seperation within it's own ranks - sort of like some kind of early south american tribe still wandering around in the jungle killing monkeys.

    I did come this board because I was "in the business" for a while. I was letting an ex-dancer I knew put up websites on my machines and I wanted to have a better idea of what I might be getting into. So no, I "don't know my place" as it appears some men do and are willing to accept. I am a stranger in a strange land here and accustomed to equality and respect.

    What did keep me on the board is a surprising amount of intelligent discourse in politics and current events - something I really revel in. To me, StripperWeb is less about dancers and more about Politics and kookie event reporting in The Lounge.

    I did stumbled over to the blue site, but I am not a part of that crowd and other than Mr. Punk - a lot of it is rather boring about mileage and various obsessions about some woman who's name they don't even know.

    Another mentions "why is it when women get together for a womens only thing" - I seem to remember a LOT of women wanting to get into the Mens Only thing only a few decades ago. But hey, ya know, lets put a wall up on discourse.

    Anyhow, enough interactive anthropology for Deo. I shall remain silent on this subject from now on and merely observe.

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    i personally prefer not to be around men...but i don't have that choice in this life...and could give less than a damn about a 'men's only' function...but that's just me...
    why do some people still have to fight to get the same opportunities that are given to others?

    reclusiveness...is a good thing.

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    OMG. Don't you have anything better to complain about!?! What is going on in the LO section that you want to be part of SOOOO badly? I think this is a ridiculous waste of web-space and that you just want to make waves about something nobody but YOU cares about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol

    Someone mentioned about an engineers board or other sub-culture board - I am members of such things and we don't divide the line between women and men there. It's more of an "us" and "them" mentality. This sub-culture does enforce gender seperation within it's own ranks - sort of like some kind of early south american tribe still wandering around in the jungle killing monkeys.
    In this case, strippers are women here (for the most part). Customers are men (for the most part). Therefore, it is not merely distinguishing between women and men. It is distinguishing between strippers (women) and customers (men). Customers have an agenda, and so do strippers. Since most custies here are men, and strippers are women, it appears as if it is a woman/man issue. It's not. The men here do not give a good representation of the average male with average issues, and the women here do not make up a good representation of average women with average issues. We are a subculture. It IS a "we" against "them" mentality, just like on an engineering board, except the "we" includes strippers who just happen to be women, and the "them" includes custies who just happen to be men. It's not a man/woman issue.

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    Imo, the bad thing about "Ladies Only!" is that it creates a completely bogus sense of privacy that appears to take in some of the women/dancers enough that they feel comfortable talking about very intimate/private/sensitive topics that they would not want to discuss (apparently) in an open/public forum.

    But, in reality, "Ladies Only!" is completely open and public. Guys can and undoubtedly do read it. They can also post in it freely if they are willing to register as female and maintain a fake dancer persona; assuming such "morphed" identities is an "ancient" net practise, and I'd be surprised if it does not occur on SW also. Moreover, "Ladies Only!" is totally accessible to spiders and bots and such...and so posts on specific topics or by specific screen names can be found via off-site search engines and are being stored in various web archives (such as The Way Back Machine) where they will remain available long into the future, even if the forum or even all of SW goes away.

    Basically, I suspect that "Ladies Only!" is counterproductive to its purpose and has the net effect of decreasing the privacy of those who use it. Without it, many of the same sensitive discussions would go on by PM or email list or on sites with password protection and some sort of process for verifying user identity/gender, etc.

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    Deogol, there's a LOT of pleces i can't go in THE REAL WORLD, do i cry fowl? For example, the kitchen of a restraunt. Try going in there sometime. When i was a kid i worked in them. You will be told to leave.

    FACT is, there is no discrimination whatsoever as long as you are on private property. You came to Pryce's pad, period. What he says... goes. Try coming to a site i run and spouting Nazi speech (it's happened) ain't gonna work. 30 seconds flat, banned. If you're worried about freedom of speech, try mock preaching the fire and brimstone version of the bible at your local Circle K. See how fast they call the cops on you. Fact is, if you are on private property freedom of speech doesn't apply. And you are on, if it's not apparent (and it should be), private property. You're on something Pryce and GirlFriday made. You agreed to the EULA when you joined this site. It states there that customers are welcome but it is primarily a site for dancers (Translation: women, since male strippers don't seem to come here).

    You don't like that there's a Ladies only section, sorry but tough. There's a lot of the world i don't like, i deal with it fine. Go look up another site. It's a big internet.

    Edit: If SW is so 'intolerant' why have i not gotten slapped down by ANYONE for one of my off topic Superman posts? The only person to have ever given me any shit has been Mojojojo. Why do the females not object? Could it be because SW is a tolerant plece? Of course not, because it must be that these evil bitches have a place they can talk amongst themselves without my input...

    IMO Ladies only is a GOOD thing. Let them have it without complaint. There are all kinds of "guy" sites out there. What's next, bitching because "mother.com" doesn't have a "guys only" section? Since when is a guy a mother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    The guys room is over here:
    tut tut
    Do you really think i wade in the kiddie pool???
    It only takes a visit or two and any putz can figure out,its not about the entertainers,its about the custies.
    Its cyber perv ally.
    If you want to be in Ladies Only so bad or feel that you are being discriminated against, then simply take some hormones, get a boob job, lob off the penis and you'll be welcomed.
    I had contemplated donating it to medical science for research and exploration after i die,but thats AFTER I die!Im still getting a little mileage outta it and feel its got a few more miles on it before needing to scrap it.

    I dont want to be in ladies only,as i have said,i have little interest.
    It was that guy who started this thread<points>I say we kill him!!!!!!
    Other than that...quit complaining.
    Im not,i swear!
    I lubs me some SW!!!!!
    But....
    Dude got a point,and its a good one.
    This is STRIPPERWEB. For exotic dancers/strippers.
    yes,VG meet Chad,Chad meet VG.

    Men do NOT have to be allowed here...
    Yes they do,they keep the lights on so to speak.
    Those dam men are inablers!!!!!!

    Its none of my business,and really doesnt matter to me,but if I had to guess,its a no brainer,MEN generate alot of the money that keeps this web site profitable.
    I dont think the impact of men on this web site should be so easy to excuse,doesnt matter what role they are here under,custie,support staff,or entertainer.

    but Pryce has chosen to open the doors to everyone. When it got to the point that the WOMEN who the site was intended for could not type anything without have testoterone replying...Pryce implemented LO so we could talk with others without the men putting in their two cents.
    I think Pryce has stumbled onto a wonderful thing here with SW,I also think it will continue to evolve over time.We have seen changes to SW,most would say they have all been for the best,why be so "NON changing"for a possible better SW???
    Im sure if a male only section got out of hand,Pryce would ax it fast.
    Is that so hard to understand? Think of this as a club environment. Customers/men are allowed in all areas of the club...except the dressing room.
    Exactly!!!!!
    In that same analogy,Im a man and i can go into the dressing room as the DJ..
    You have a custie section for the "Men"you fear running a male only forum into the ground.

    If you don't like that, then please go picket your local strip club for more access...when you succeed at doing that, then maybe we'll be more allowing of letting the penises into the Ladies Only area.
    I dont think anyone is storming the ramparts of the ladies only section.

    I think they want exactly what the gals have,for the same reasons the gals have it.

    For the life of me i cant see why this isnt reasonable??

    Fine...maybe we should rename it DANCERS ONLY. That would not help the few CUSTOMERS who would still feel slighted that they cannot reply there. So, what gives?
    This is actually a good suggestion in my book,it does remove the reverse discrimination aspect of it and lessons the avail ammo for bored guys sitting in front of thier comps.
    Again....
    Its his fault<pointing> ,he started this thread!!!!

    But,Then you would lose out on something i really think you need,a ladies only section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    This is a dumb thread...
    lolololol

    Peeeeeerfect!!!

    typical "Blue Ribbon" PC response!!!

    Ya wuss!!!!!!

    Cmon man,we can take um,they are just girls!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by erotictonic
    True. Also, it would be a bit different IF all but a few of the strippers on this site were not women. Ladies' Only is more like Strippers Only. And yes, if I went on a board where say, engineers came to gather, and I joined, I would be expected to be treated differently, because I am not an engineer. Or if I went into a gay bar, I would be treated differently because I am not gay. When you decide to hang with a certain subculture, but you are not one of them, then you can be expected to be treated differently than those who "belong" to it. You choose that existence.
    LOL

    Did you just try to justify discrimination??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    It's male dominated? If all the women left, what would happen?
    I dont think its male dominated really,im not sure,like you said,any guy who punches in stripper on the web can come in.maybe we do have a huge male population????

    I just want to ask the reverse,what if all the men left,what would happen???

    neither answer is a good one i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTopaz
    gender biases are not the same as the women's only forums of the world...

    fellas...i'll say this again...sometimes we don't want your input...and for some of us...our lives DON'T revolve around you...or your desires...accept that fact and move on...

    thank you...
    I didnt think this was a female only forum when i arrived.
    Again,we agree on the need for a ladies only section.

    For the same reasons you listed,the male strippers of the world need thier section also.

    Anything less is biased and sexual discrimination.

    Isnt it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    Huh???You don't like "Free Ladies Nights"?????
    hehehehehhe
    I love it!!!!
    I take mine slightly shaken,not stirred,dressing on the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwanderer
    Imo, the bad thing about "Ladies Only!" is that it creates a completely bogus sense of privacy that appears to take in some of the women/dancers enough that they feel comfortable talking about very intimate/private/sensitive topics that they would not want to discuss (apparently) in an open/public forum.

    But, in reality, "Ladies Only!" is completely open and public. Guys can and undoubtedly do read it. They can also post in it freely if they are willing to register as female and maintain a fake dancer persona; assuming such "morphed" identities is an "ancient" net practise, and I'd be surprised if it does not occur on SW also. Moreover, "Ladies Only!" is totally accessible to spiders and bots and such...and so posts on specific topics or by specific screen names can be found via off-site search engines and are being stored in various web archives (such as The Way Back Machine) where they will remain available long into the future, even if the forum or even all of SW goes away.

    Basically, I suspect that "Ladies Only!" is counterproductive to its purpose and has the net effect of decreasing the privacy of those who use it. Without it, many of the same sensitive discussions would go on by PM or email list or on sites with password protection and some sort of process for verifying user identity/gender, etc.

    -Ww

    The whole point of having Ladies Only section is to prevent men from answering some personal posts. It was never thought that they wouldn't read any of it...but there are just some things that some women here do not want a man's answer to. They are entitled to that. We tried to get that across without creating that section before, but there were a select few who absolutely refused to listen. Creating the LO was a way of being able to police it a little better and for the women to have other women answer those questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    I dont think its male dominated really,im not sure,like you said,any guy who punches in stripper on the web can come in.maybe we do have a huge male population????

    I just want to ask the reverse,what if all the men left,what would happen???

    neither answer is a good one i think.
    I was saying it's just the opposite. It's female dominated. Even Pryce defers to the wishes of the ladies here.

    And i don't think anyone should leave.

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    Ahhh, for crissakes... I think Rhia hit it best; the Poo must REALLY be hurting for debate topics LOL.

    In general, yes, a "Ladies Only" section where a particular organ in one's pants theoretically deems the ability to participate IS a sexist guideline (duh), but in the context here it serves a number of noteworthy points:
    1) This is the internet, so therefore no 'rules' of US Constitution apply. i.e. it's moderated so no form of 'freedom of speech' exists, nor does it have to abide by any laws, rules or otherwise. Donations are strictly voluntary and as the bills are paid by the operator, if Pryce decided to close it to only verified people that are male, under 5' tall, and purple, he may do so. Get used to that concept that special interest organizations can be discriminatory however they so choose.

    2) As previously mentioned, the "Ladies Only" is really just an awkward way to describe "Strippers Only" to give the lady dancers here a place to communicate WITHOUT customer/male intervention. The Stripping General forum PROVES how needed such a place is as there are always several repeat males that feel the need to counter, argue or otherwise inappropriately add their "2 cents" to any amount of lady, beauty, work-related or club related discussion or venting. There is literally NO WHERE ELSE where a woman stripper on this site can go to be afforded that luxury. Now there is Ladies Only for that purpose- where it's deemed appropriate only for others that put on a thong, high-heels and hustle for a living can add to topics.

    3) Ladies Only IS a public forum, so males indeed read there, but it's more to designed to filter reply and opinion traffic. Even given this, it's readily apparent there are SEVERAL male posters posing as women that through time have created fake accounts or posted as females in there anyways.

    4) A "Men Only" forum would be equally discriminating, but if it was deemed important, Pryce would likely entertain adding such a forum on the Blue Site. I just cant perceive any guys/customers that wouldn't welcome female or stripper input so the demand would be extremely low- plus due to the nature of SOME male posters, I'm sure they would misuse it far more often than Ladies Only is misused- i.e. a place to simply taunt or challenge specific individuals without their ability to defend themselves or reply. Neither site needs that kind of banter. It should also not go without noting that the internet is LITTERED with male-only forums where it's not enforced by rules, but is enforced by the posters who shun or invalidate any female input to the point of exile.
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    Wow. This issue could have it's own forum...



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