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    Oh my love, how I have missed thee...

    Ok before anyone flames me about the health risks associated with the use of herbal ephedra, I am aware, and used it in the past very conservatively.

    I was MAD AS HELL when the FDA "banned" it. But before I go off into a tangent about how irritated I was - I am happy to hear that a judge has overturned the ruling.

    Now, supposedly, manufacturers are now allowed to market products that contain 10mg or less of ephedra, because the health risks associated with low dosages have not been documented well enough to warrant the ban. (a little research will tell you that the people who suffered ill effects from ephedra were using NO common sense... I wrote a long paper on this)

    So yay! anyone else excited about this wonderful news?

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    No, since I'm in Canada and it was banned for a long time here... and is still banned.

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    i await the day the FDA is banned
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    Wow!This is the best news I heard in a long time!!!

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    yay, real hydroxycuts will be back. i know the dangers too, but they sure did help a long work night.

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    hey belle,
    I never used ephedra, but i have heard great things about it! Once its back out i will pick up a bottle!

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    10 MG or less???Does anyone remember how many MG the original products had???If it was significantly more,then the 10 MG or less may not make a big difference.On the other hand,I guess a little is better than nothing,if that is the case.
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    Im happy...I heard it on the news a week or so ago. Im happy its something to help me stay awake. I sometimes take them to loose weight but mainly for staying awake.
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    To tell you the truth I think its safer than whats out there now. I took ephedra on and off for aaround 10 years and it took me 3 months to not be tired all the time after they banned it and I had to go without. The stuff they have out there now for energy and fat burning is awful. I had to go to the emergency room because of one of the things I took and that never happened with ephedra. I dont know if I will start to take it again though because it does mess up your metabolism and make you gain weight in the long run and it takes to long to regain energy back during brakes from the product. Though its nice to know if I need it I can get it.

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    wow I had no idea and yes I'm happy. Thanks for posting this TD. I ordered that Thermadrol crap online and it didn't do squat. Is this effective immediately? When can we find the product on the shelves again?


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    hey ladies!

    well, because this ruling will undergo a large amount of scrutiny from the FDA, the big companies (muscletech, twinlabs, etc) are going to be less likely to jump back into production with their ephedra lines because they have a lot to lose if the ban is reinacted.

    So, for the time being, the companies producing ephedra containing products will be small, less known businesses. You can purchase here: http://www.fitnessone.com/index.php?cPath=98
    I am ordering the "XEN" - the nutritional label looks a lot like the original xenadrine did. I'll let you all know how it goes...

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    fuck the fda
    imma slap them bitches

    ephedrine sucks tho
    youc an always drink a bottle of robitussin coughcold and the psuedoephdrine will keep ou up haha

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    wasn't there some sort of recall on psuedoephdrine? I seem to remember something of that sort at least pertaining to children's products.


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    yes... a bit ago...

    pseudoepinephrine is a little different from ephedrine though
    (hence the "pseudo")

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    The problem with Ephedra, IMHO, was not the product but the consumer.

    I took ephedra to help boost my workouts, but I know my limits...and I've had check-ups with my doctor. I will never take more than 2-3 pills per day...and even then, I only took the pills every other day when I did my cardio workouts.

    I do not believe that there was a "recall" on psuedoephdrine. But, it is no longer available OTC (well, at least not by Sudafed). You have to buy only 1 box at a time through the pharmacy. It's the main ingedient in Meth, so they're trying to make it harder to obtain (like that's ever stopped anyone)...but is a noble move.

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    soooooo...herbal ephedra...is that the same thing as just ephedra? What's the difference between that and ephedrine?

    and good gawd I don't remember that stuff being that expensive! thanks for the link though!


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    What is Ephedrine, Ephedra and Ma Huang?

    These terms are used to refer to the same substance derived from the plant Ephedra. (There are many common names for these evergreen plants, including squaw tea and Mormon tea.) Ephedra is a shrub-like plant that is found in desert regions in central Asia and other parts of the world. The dried greens of the plant are used medicinally. Ephedra is a stimulant containing the herbal form of ephedrine, an FDA-regulated drug found in over-the-counter asthma medications.

    In the United States, ephedra and ephedrine are sold in health food stores under a variety of brand names. Ephedrine is widely used for weight loss, as an energy booster, and to enhance athletic performance. These products often contain other stimulants, such as caffeine, which may have synergistic effects and increase the potential for adverse effects. Ephedra is often touted as the "herbal fen-phen."


    Ephedra's main active medical ingredients are the alkaloids ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. The ephedras also contain various tannins and related chemicals.The stem contains 1-3% total alkaloids, with ephedrine accounting for 30-90% of this total. The concentrations of these alkaloids depends upon the particular species of ephedra used.

    Ephedrine alkaloids are amphetamine-like compounds used in OTC and prescription drugs with potentially lethal stimulant effects on the central nervous system and heart. The FDA has received more than 800 reports of adverse effects associated with use of products containing ephedrine alkaloid since 1994. These serious adverse effects, include hypertension (elevated blood pressure), palpitations (rapid heart rate), neurophathy (nerve damage), myopathy (muscle injury), psychosis, stroke, memory loss, heart rate irregularities, insomnia, nervousness, tremors, seizures, heart attacks, and death. The agency has proposed to prohibit the marketing of dietary supplements containing 8 milligrams or more of ephedrine alkaloids per serving.
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    I believe that herbal ephedra and ephedra are basically the same thing. If I am not mistaken, then herbal ephedra is directly from botanical derivatives and ephedra is a lab produced "cousin". I could be wrong.

    This website kinda touches on the differences (it's about adverse affects, but oh well). To quote about ephedrine: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organiza...ephedrine.html

    "Ephedrine is derived from any of several species of the genus Ephedra. While some of the Ephedra species have no alkaloid content, the Asian species E. sinica typically has the highest concentration of ephedrine. The alkaloid content of E. sinica ranges from one to three percent; 40% to 90% of the alkaloids are ephedrine, with the remainder made up of pseudoephedrine, norephedrine and norpseudoephedrine. The pharmacological effects of E. sinica are thus principally due to its ephedrine content. (2-4)

    Ephedrine is a sympathomimetic that acts directly and indirectly on the sympathetic nerves. Its bronchodilating effects are the result of relaxation of bronchial smooth muscle through direct stimulation of ß adrenergic receptors. It is nasal decongestant, and has been used therapeutically for nocturnal enuresis, diabetic neuropathic edema, dysmenorrhea, narcolepsy, and myasthenia gravis. (5,6) Ephedrine in combination with caffeine has been shown to promote thermogenesis, fat loss, and muscle gain in several controlled trials. (7,8 ) Ephedrine is metabolized to norephedrine (phenylpropanolamine) which is responsible for the central nervous system stimulating effects of the drug. (5,6)

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    Damn, OTB...you beat me to it.

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    One of woman's cardinal rule: Body parts can be fake,everything else has to be real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    The problem with Ephedra, IMHO, was not the product but the consumer.

    I took ephedra to help boost my workouts, but I know my limits...and I've had check-ups with my doctor. I will never take more than 2-3 pills per day...and even then, I only took the pills every other day when I did my cardio workouts.

    I do not believe that there was a "recall" on psuedoephdrine. But, it is no longer available OTC (well, at least not by Sudafed). You have to buy only 1 box at a time through the pharmacy. It's the main ingedient in Meth, so they're trying to make it harder to obtain (like that's ever stopped anyone)...but is a noble move.
    Bingo! it was taken off or highly regulated because its used to cut Meth .

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    Pseudoephedrine is the active ingredient in over the counter decongestants. It is the active ingredient for meth cooks; however, it doesn't have weight loss effects like ephedra/ephedrine. Though, when I took Hydroxycut it said on the bottle not to mix with pseudoephedrine or fexofenadine (another sinus decongestant).

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    it does have appetite suppressant qualities though. When I was a mermaid at weeki wachee, we used to all take sudafed before we swam shows because it would dilate our bronchial tubes - thus, allowing us to hold our breath longer underwater. The plus is it helped us all stay thin because it supressed our appetites A LOT.

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    I love Ephedra. I've been using Ephedrine products since last July. w00t.
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    Paige, where have you been getting them? online?

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