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    Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, like his immediate predecessor, John Ashcroft, has pledged to make obscenity prosecutions a priority. The department is expected to announce soon the creation of a special unit within its criminal division to focus on adult obscenity cases.

    "Enforcement is absolutely necessary if we are going to protect citizens from unwanted exposure to obscene materials," Gonzales recently told federal prosecutors. He directed U.S. attorneys to report back by late July on effective ways to crack down on obscenity and what tools the prosecutors might need.

    Those kind of words please religious conservatives, who claim the Clinton administration virtually ignored the proliferation of pornography, particularly on the Internet, during the 1990s.


    The Justice Department's approach has been to identify videos that even some in the pornography business find unappealing and to bring charges in more socially conservatives places, where possible.

    In the case against Wedelstedt, the government filed charges in Dallas, where the Colorado resident was indicted.

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    The general overtones of the Ashcroft justice dep't, now carried on by Gonzales, definitely will put a crimp in the adult entertainment business, for better or worse. A few provisions which are already being 'kicked around' as a result of creative enforcement of existing laws are

    - webcam girls must post their real names, addresses and ages on their webcam page for every net surfer in the world to see, or face possible felony charges for producing underage porn

    - an adult webmaster who is located in a state where the website material is totally legal, and/or whose web server is located in a state where the website material is totally legal, may be prosecuted for 'delivering' that website material to a customer in a state/city where the website material is NOT legal.

    All in all this is probably a GOOD thing for upscale 'show' club dancers, though.

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    Those kind of words please religious conservatives, who claim the Clinton administration virtually ignored the proliferation of pornography, particularly on the Internet, during the 1990s.
    That's what it's been mostly for the last 5 years--just words and posturing. They really have a lot more going on than chasing down porn producers, but they like to pretend they're doing something for the Wildmons of the nation.
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    Speaking of which, I just heard that the House of Reps (?!?) is moving to outlaw "overtly sexual moves by high school cheerleaders." wtf? Did I hear that correctly? Some lawmaker says he finds it "disgusting" when hot young cheerleaders "shake their behinds." Right.

    This is a serious blow for Sporty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    The general overtones of the Ashcroft justice dep't, now carried on by Gonzales, definitely will put a crimp in the adult entertainment business, for better or worse. A few provisions which are already being 'kicked around' as a result of creative enforcement of existing laws are

    - webcam girls must post their real names, addresses and ages on their webcam page for every net surfer in the world to see, or face possible felony charges for producing underage porn

    - an adult webmaster who is located in a state where the website material is totally legal, and/or whose web server is located in a state where the website material is totally legal, may be prosecuted for 'delivering' that website material to a customer in a state/city where the website material is NOT legal.

    All in all this is probably a GOOD thing for upscale 'show' club dancers, though.

    My bf, who works for an internet porn company, goes through the models id's everyday. He's got real names, addresses, phone numbers from driver's licenses, and they all use social security cards as their second form of id. It is really disturbing that all this personal information is readily available.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    "Enforcement is absolutely necessary if we are going to protect citizens from unwanted exposure to obscene materials," Gonzales recently told federal prosecutors. He directed U.S. attorneys to report back by late July on effective ways to crack down on obscenity and what tools the prosecutors might need.
    Unwanted exposure???? With the exception of spam in your inbox, what the hell is "unwanted exposure"? Are there really people stalking the streets of our cities thrusting porn into the hands of unsuspecting citizens?
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    My bf, who works for an internet porn company, goes through the models id's everyday. He's got real names, addresses, phone numbers from driver's licenses, and they all use social security cards as their second form of id. It is really disturbing that all this personal information is readily available
    Yup, and just think that one phone call from an IRS agent, or for that matter a private 'bounty hunter' working under contract to the IRS, is all that is required for that list of model's info to be turned over to them for comparison to the IRS database of previously filed tax returns !

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    If you read the DOJ release when they announce the Wedelstedt indictment you will see this is primarily a racketeering and tax fraud case.
    http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2005/March/05_crm_120.htm

    “The investigation leading to today's indictment exemplifies a true team effort,” said Marcy Forman, Director of Investigations for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “Our coordinated pursuit and investigative expertise in money laundering, criminal interstate trafficking and tax fraud has uncovered the individuals who distributed obscene material while engaging in federal tax crimes related to their illicit profits.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Speaking of which, I just heard that the House of Reps (?!?) is moving to outlaw "overtly sexual moves by high school cheerleaders." wtf? Did I hear that correctly? Some lawmaker says he finds it "disgusting" when hot young cheerleaders "shake their behinds." Right.

    This is a serious blow for Sporty!
    We had a thread somewhere about this before.

    I have a problem with it also and hope its outlawed.

    Think about it,HIGH SCHOOL!!!!
    14-17 year old girls.

    Its the only level of cheerleading where the girls are allowed to act like strippers.
    They dont do it in middle schools,they dont to it at the university level,and they dont do it in the pros.
    Its also BANNED in cheerleading compatitions by all cheerleading orgs.

    I dont understand how anyone,specially a woman,could ever support NOT outlawing it.

    Im ok with the house of reps on this one,and im ok with the house of dems if they are on this one also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny
    Unwanted exposure???? With the exception of spam in your inbox, what the hell is "unwanted exposure"? Are there really people stalking the streets of our cities thrusting porn into the hands of unsuspecting citizens?
    Have you ever walked down The Strip in vegas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montythegeek
    If you read the DOJ release when they announce the Wedelstedt indictment you will see this is primarily a racketeering and tax fraud case.


    “The investigation leading to today's indictment exemplifies a true team effort,” said Marcy Forman, Director of Investigations for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “Our coordinated pursuit and investigative expertise in money laundering, criminal interstate trafficking and tax fraud has uncovered the individuals who distributed obscene material while engaging in federal tax crimes related to their illicit profits.”
    Of course it is. And they put Al Capone down for that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Have you ever walked down The Strip in vegas?
    No, I haven't. I understand too much about math for gambling to be any fun for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny
    No, I haven't. I understand too much about math for gambling to be any fun for me.
    I think Deogol was making reference to the illegal immigrants shoving flyers advertising strip clubs and escort services into the faces of every male walking the Strip, even ones who have a wife and/or child in tow.

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    Doc: I figured that's what he meant. My answer meant to explain why visiting Las Vegas hold's no appeal to me. I'm way too cheap for gambling to be any fun for me.
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    I find it funny that they are going after the illegals and not the companies they say dont have the permits to operate.
    Thier solution, from what i could gather of the story, is to stop the material from being spread out by targeting the illegals and not the 'Pimps"as they called them.

    Kinda a stupid approach imo,why not just shut down the illegal companies???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny
    Doc: I figured that's what he meant. My answer meant to explain why visiting Las Vegas hold's no appeal to me. I'm way too cheap for gambling to be any fun for me.
    But we were talking about adult materials being shoved into unwilling people's faces and if it happened.

    I showed that it did happen, but you chose to change the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    But we were talking about adult materials being shoved into unwilling people's faces and if it happened.

    I showed that it did happen, but you chose to change the subject.
    Not changing the subject at all. Just explaining why I would not know what goes on in Las Vegas. I was wrong, it does go on in vegas. Happy now?
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    Most of the things I consider obscene come from DC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh0t
    Most of the things I consider obscene come from DC
    Well I know that when I pay my taxes I feel like I've been screwed.
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