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    Heterosexual transmission accounts for the fastest growing risk group in the United States

    AIDS cases attributed to heterosexual transmission increased from 3% of all cumulative AIDS cases among women in 1983 and 1984 to 39% as of December 31, 2002.(6) Regions with the highest rates in women correspond to those in which seroprevalence is highest in male IDUs.(7)

    The true incidence of heterosexually transmitted cases is probably even higher, but cases are sometimes unrecognized owing to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reporting hierarchy. For example, if a woman had heterosexual contact multiple times and injected intravenous drugs once, she is categorized as having injection drug use as the source of her infection. Of the 126,880 cases ever classified as "risk not reported or identified" through June of 2000, (the last year for reporting on this type of information), 59,692 have been reclassified. Of this group, 15,300 are women, and 10,404 (68%) of them have been reclassified as transmission through heterosexual contact.( As recently as 2002, 7,532 (66%) of the total 11,279 adult women diagnosed with AIDS were classified as either "risk not reported or identified" (4,029 [36%]) or as "transmission secondary to heterosexual contact with a HIV-infected person, risk not specified" (3,502 [31%]).(6)

    It is estimated that if information were to be obtained on this latter group of 3,502 that at least 68% would be reclassified as heterosexual transmission.
    http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-03-01-12#S1.1X
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    If you'll reread any of my threads regarding HIV/AIDS statistics, I have freely admitted that recent changes in trends have happened. I have also freely admitted that 'growth rate' statistics re American HIV/AIDS cases, as well as overall case statistics from other countries (particularly African countries) indicate that more HIV/AIDS infections are occurring in women.

    However, a statistic like 'fastest growning segment' may make an interesting headline in terms of drawing attention, but it may NOT indicate that a major departure is taking place in overall HIV/AIDS cases. In other words, comparing 4000 vs 7000 vs 10,000 cases of American women with AIDS being the result of heterosexual transmission may show big percentage growth numbers, but in the overall scheme of things 4000 or 7000 or 10,000 female AIDS cases all pale in comparison to 300,000+ AIDS cases involving gay/bi males.

    It is also argued by some that the rising trend in American female HIV/AIDS cases is due in large part to the 'innocent' infection of wives and girlfriends of bi males, males who originally contracted HIV/AIDS from having gay sex. Thus politally correct interpretations of the recent 'reclassification' of HIV/AIDS case distribution has essentially abolished any category for 'females who contracted HIV/AIDS from second-hand gay male sexual contact via their bi husband/boyfriend', and instead substituted a supposed category of 'the HIV virus blew in the window and infected the female and her faithful hetero husband/boyfriend''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    However, a statistic like 'fastest growning segment' may make an interesting headline in terms of drawing attention, but it may NOT indicate that a major departure is taking place in overall HIV/AIDS cases. In other words, comparing 4000 vs 7000 vs 10,000 cases of American women with AIDS being the result of heterosexual transmission may show big percentage growth numbers, but in the overall scheme of things 4000 or 7000 or 10,000 female AIDS cases all pale in comparison to 300,000+ AIDS cases involving gay/bi males.
    well i guess that answers my question.
    I thought the fastest growing "group"was black homosexual men.

    Again,this sounds like propaganda to me,anything to distract from the 300K and actual facts..

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    The CDC's surveillance numbers show the complete story.

    It's not hard to be "the fastest growing group" when your numbers to begin with were hugely disproportionate next to the statistical leader. And yet, for all this "growth" in heterosexual transmission, by any measure, MSM cases are still far and away the most common category of HIV/AIDS transmission and infection.

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    wow,great web post!I had never seen it written out in such plain english like that.

    Kinda shatters bullshit propaganda doesnt it.

    The sad part is,its not very PC to report or talk about the actual numbers.

    It doesnt make someone homophobic to understand numbers like that or to plan accordingly when setting up donation tables.

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    The only propganda here is the all gays get Aids attitude that you anti gay rights people cling to.... (imo)you have your heads stuck in the sand about million miles deep and are in complete denial of the truth.

    The only purpose of the denial ( again imo) is to further homophobic agendas and discrimination....notice how no one who isn't against equal rights for homosexuals disagrees that hetersoexuals are the fastest growing segment of US population of new cases ?

    Coincedence ? Nope.

    Apparently the vast majority of our fellow site members agree that opposition to equal rights for homosexuals is bigotry AND 90% also feel gay marriage should be legal.

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...al+Rights+Gays

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...al+Rights+Gays


    wow... it must be embarrising to know that the majority of those who pay attention to this section think your anti gay views = discrimination......
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    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    LOL

    So you say the facts posted are wrong???

    Would love to see where you get your stats from,those are from the CDC.
    Care to provide actual stats that differ,from something other then a homosexuals private web site,with nothing but pro homosexual propaganda and opinions??

    These numbers basically shoot most of your arguments to ribbons.

    Its the facts mame,nuttin but the facts.

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    I already did . There is a link in the first post...it also explains how and why the CDC numbers do not reflect reality.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    LOL
    Care to provide actual stats that differ,from something other then a homosexuals private web site,with nothing but pro homosexual propaganda and opinions??
    btw where did you get the idea that site is a private website of a homosexual ?

    show me where it says it is a private and personal website of a homosexual person...... you can't because you're dead ass flat out wrong !

    It's the CA/SF School of MEDICINE website ! Here is a partial list list of authors (too many to list here) there are Dr.'s who work/teach at places like :Yale, Harvard , Stanford, Brown and Cornell and even from the CDC !
    • Irma Ahmed, MD
    • Everett Ai, MD
    • David Bangsberg, MD, MPH
    • Steven L. Batki, MD
    • Karen P. Beckerman, MD
    • Timothy G. Berger, MD
    • J. Michael Berry, MD
    • Gail Bolan, MD
    • Jeffrey H. Burack, MD, MPP, BPhil
    • Lisa Capaldini, MD
    • Charles C.J. Carpenter, MD
    • Corey Casper, MD, MPH
    the very fact that you think anything that isn't gay bashing comes from a personal homosexuals website is further proof (imo) of your homphobia
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    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    hmmm no comments from the CandyMan now huh? LMFAO !!!!!!!!!! Well it hasn't been that long so we'll see I guess
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello~Kitty
    I already did . There is a link in the first post...it also explains how and why the CDC numbers do not reflect reality.


    btw where did you get the idea that site is a private website of a homosexual ?

    show me where it says it is a private and personal website of a homosexual person...... you can't because you're dead ass flat out wrong !

    Well that wasnt the web site i was referring to,but since you went thru the trouble of posting a poll about it,i figured i would let you keep going.

    I have asked you to back up stats before and you have posted web sites that were just opinions and from pro gay websites.I have even called you on it before openly.(i guess i can pull up the old thread as an example if needed)
    I didnt actually read this web site yet,i just glanced over it,im at work.
    I will give it the needed time when i get home,i promise mto respond then.
    It's the CA/SF School of MEDICINE website ! Here is a partial list list of authors (too many to list here) there are Dr.'s who work/teach at places like :Yale, Harvard , Stanford, Brown and Cornell and even from the CDC !
    • Irma Ahmed, MD
    • Everett Ai, MD
    • David Bangsberg, MD, MPH
    • Steven L. Batki, MD
    • Karen P. Beckerman, MD
    • Timothy G. Berger, MD
    • J. Michael Berry, MD
    • Gail Bolan, MD
    • Jeffrey H. Burack, MD, MPP, BPhil
    • Lisa Capaldini, MD
    • Charles C.J. Carpenter, MD
    • Corey Casper, MD, MPH
    Ok heres what i dont understand.(and i have not read it yet)But how come if they can prove they are right and the CDC is wrong,and some of them work at the CDC,why isnt the CDC changing the actual stats to reflect the proven truth??
    Is it a goverment conspiracy against Gays??

    the very fact that you think anything that isn't gay bashing comes from a personal homosexuals website is further proof (imo) of your homphobia
    Nope,sorry,your quest to prove me homophobic still comes up empty im afraid.

    Many of the web site's you provide as "evidence"are not that,just homosexual propaganda from many personal websites containing opinions or from biased newspapers with homophobic "stings".
    But thats just my opinion.

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    Well that wasnt the web site i was referring to
    uh-huh...suuuure.... here is what you wrote about my link in this thread


    Care to provide actual stats that differ,from something other then a homosexuals private web site,with nothing but pro homosexual propaganda and opinions??
    and

    Again,this sounds like propaganda to me,anything to distract from the 300K and actual facts..
    If you were talking about something other than this thread and this link I posted here, you would have said so ....but you didn't and now you are backpeddling big time..... btw it isn't very convincing


    Ok heres what i dont understand.(and i have not read it yet)But how come if they can prove they are right and the CDC is wrong,and some of them work at the CDC,why isnt the CDC changing the actual stats to reflect the proven truth??
    So you decieded that the info from the link I posted in this thread was wrong without reading it. That's logical. Not!
    Also the CDC hasn't had a report in awhile (2002 I think ?) so we'll just have to see what changes on the next one...... But I will point out that it was explained already how and why the CDC stats are off....funny though how you think you know more about HIV than all the listed Dr's and prof. at places such as Yale, Harvard, Brown on so on. Wow , that's a mighty fine acomplishment , ROFLMFAO !

    to prove me homophobic still comes up empty im afraid.
    I don't have to prove anything your words speak volumes. I just enjoy pointing it out

    biased newspapers with homophobic "stings".
    Which news orgs have a progay propganda agenda ? Washington Post ? Proof please.

    AP ? Proof please..... NYTimes ? Proof please....USAToday ? Proof please.... Reuters ? Proof please....did I miss any you had in mind ?

    go ahead and list for us all the news orgs. you think have a pro-gay proganda agenda and why. Btw, which news orgs do you think do not have a progay propganda agenda ?

    Is the requirement for not having a progay agenda having an anti gay one ? It appears so from your comments. Care to prove otherwise ?

    it would seem that according to you all the major news orgs are all biased and contain nothing but pro gay propaganda..... riiight

    What is more likely ? All the major and most respected news orgs all have pro-gay propganda agendas or you have an anti gay one ?
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    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    So according to you all the major news orgs are all biased and contain nothing but pro gay propaganda eh ? riiight
    Well, if you're referring to the NY Times, the Washington Post, CBS, Associated Press, and the SF Chronicle, yup I'd say they ARE biased. It's also noteworthy that most of these are losing readers/viewers.

    As to your list of 'expert witnesses', I fail to see how you can claim with a straight face that physicians like Irma Ahmed working in San Francisco, working hand in hand with state funded UCSD, and building her career credentials contingent on doing what's necessary to get her HIV/Aids papers published, qualifies as a totally objective AIDS researcher. When I saw this post I was reminded of the time that someone on SW attempted to prove that islamic leaders disapprove of terrorism by listing HAMAS as one of the official islamic agencies opposing terrorism on record !

    Apparently the vast majority of our fellow site members agree that opposition to equal rights for homosexuals is bigotry AND 90% also feel gay marriage should be legal.
    Well, when state and federal election rules are changed to only allow SW members to vote, I'll start quaking in my boots !

    notice how no one who isn't against equal rights for homosexuals disagrees that hetersoexuals are the fastest growing segment of US population of new cases ?
    Actually, I didn't see anyone disagree with the premise that heterosexuals comprise the fastest growing segment of the US population to contract AIDS. However, it was pointed out that the rapid growth from 4000 to 7000 cases, and again from 7000 to 10,000 cases (i.e. a 30+% growth rate) in no way indicates that hetersexual AIDS cases comprise a significant segment of total AIDS cases (even 10,000 out of 300,000+ total cases only comprises THREE PERCENT !)
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    Ok im working thru the artical,heres the first red flag that popped up for me.
    {quote]EpidemiologyIn 1997, approximately 41% of adults living with HIV/AIDS were women; by 2002 this proportion had risen to 50%.() Of the approximately 40 million adults worldwide living with HIV/AIDS in 2002, about 19.2 million were women.() Every day, approximately 5,500 women are newly infected with HIV, and more than 3,000 die from AIDS-related illnesses.()

    In most parts of the world HIV infection is increasing faster among women than men. Nowhere is the trend more apparent than in sub-Saharan Africa where women comprise 58% of existing HIV infections.[/quote]

    Wow,I wasnt aware of these numbers.
    The numbers here in the USA are soooooooo different.
    Its seems like worldwide,its almost 60%females who have HIV/aids for the most part and in the usa,its over 50% males who have it.(according to the cdc)

    Why is it world wide,females are at a higher risk then american females??

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    and what of all the other Dr. ( btw the list was sooooooooooooooo long it wouldn't even fit into the message) I guess every single one of those Dr's is not objective? Take a look at the list of authors on the link. ...you are seriously sitting there and saying they all have a pro gay agenda ! Un-fucking-belieavable.

    What's more logical ? Every Dr. on that list as well AP news and all the other news orgs I mentioned before all have a progay propganda agenda or you have a anti gay one.

    I mean seriously , please get real !

    It so fucking funny to see you and MnM think they know more than Dr's from places such as Yale, Harvard, Brown and from hospitals like Mount Sinia

    And the AP biased in favor of liberal themed subjects ...you have got to be kidding !!!!!! That is like saying FoxNews is a liberal minded org.

    I challenge you to point out any mainstream news org that you consider NOT to have pro gay propganda agenda.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Heres another red flag....
    Heterosexual TransmissionAmong HIV-discordant couples (those with only a single HIV-positive partner), heterosexual transmission from the male to the female partner is approximately eight times more efficient than female-to-male transmission. Most infections have occurred by the vaginal route, although participation in anal sex increases the risk.() The cumulative incidence of transmission within discordant couples suggests an approximate 20% risk of transmission from male to female from unprotected sex over a sustained period in a fixed partnership. A study from northern California, which began prospectively following patients in 1985, found that only 2 (2.4%) of the 82 male partners of HIV-infected females became infected, but 68 (19%) of the 360 female partners of infected men became infected.() Male-to-female transmission risk per sexual contact in this study was estimated to be 0.0009.()
    If its the boys giving it to the girls,where are the boys getting it??

    Is this the Bisexual male dancing in the homosexual community or the open window theory??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Why is it world wide,females are at a higher risk then american females??
    OMG, you really don't know much of anything about HIV do you..... ok lets start with the basics ...pardon the spelling, as usual mine sux

    Female anatomy is more suseptible to transmission. HIV does not live long outside the body for one (a penis is outside the body) Females often get tiny tissue tears during sex as do people who have anal sex (both men and women/gay and straight) and that is a direct line into the blood system.

    In alot places birthcontrol is either frowned upon or unavailble due to one reason or another and anal sex is used as a form of birthcontrol.

    In more primitive cultures monogomy is not that common. More sex partners ='s more risk.

    Does that answer your question? If not try doing some more reading on HIV (please skip the Christian Right websites if you want to get the truth) The website I linked here is very accurate for all you could possible need to know about how the disease is transmitted.

    Keep learning.... wow maybe there is hope after all
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    I dunno,basically the paper this lady doc wrote is based on worldwide stats,and as she said herself,58% of the makeup is females in africa.

    How can you use this as a case study when looking at the stats in the USA or even Canada,hell,for that matter,most of europe??

    The stats are night and day when the 58% percent of african females are added.

    It just seems to me a better paper served in the united nations building when discussing hiv/aids and its impact on the world.
    It offers little or no help when addressing the issue in north america.It offers no real time regional stats and doesnt target the high risk areas imo.

    Not useless,just not valid when discussing the USA and Aids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Heres another red flag....

    If its the boys giving it to the girls,where are the boys getting it??

    Is this the Bisexual male dancing in the homosexual community or the open window theory??
    No... because of the "gay" stigma (which you and Melonie have been furthering I might add) many men do not get tested in the first place...women are more likely to get tested because there is less stigma and because of childbearing.

    Here's a great example: Have you been tested ? I'm guessing not but I could be wrong.

    If not then why ?

    Do you not consider yourself at risk ? If so why? Have never had unprotected sex ? Have you had more than one sex partner your whole life ?

    These are personal question, sorry but they apply to the discussion so... do you "swing" ? Do you have know the HIV status of all your partners and all their partners as well ? Have you or any of your parnters or any of their partners used drugs? What about IV Drugs? Have you ever had a condom fail ?

    If you answer yes to any of those questions you are at risk.

    It is the "gay disease" stigma and discrimination against those with HIV that is major cause of the thousands of new cases every year. People who have it don't know it and give it to others who either trust them or don't protect themselves with condoms and/or clean needles.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Wow,I wasnt aware of these numbers.
    The numbers here in the USA are soooooooo different.
    Its seems like worldwide,its almost 60%females who have HIV/aids for the most part and in the usa,its over 50% males who have it.(according to the cdc)

    Why is it world wide,females are at a higher risk then american females??
    World wide especially in Africa I think it comes down to education of the masses, which are below any type of poverty we know in the US, regarding HIV/AIDS. First probably is the lack of sexual health protection (not sure if that is good wording) condoms, sexual contact with those infected etc, unprotected sex is common. Then the lack of general health care for general population, so you only get seen by a doctor if you are dying and that's even a if. There is virtually no testing since this also costs money. There is no antiviral medications used since they cost a lot.
    The reason why the author in question included Africa AIDS stats is that it is part of her main field of research in Infectious Disease is " Women and AIDS/HIV" which is not limited to just the United States. Her research is regarding all strains of HIV/AIDS with in the realm of women. So having African stats do make sense to the point her article was trying to make that there needs to be continuing Global clinic research regarding HIV/AIDS and women since (I know most people not involved with clinical research would not know) most clinical trials have the inclusionary critieria of being male and in the united states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello~Kitty
    No... because of the "gay" stigma (which you and Melonie have been furthering I might add) many men do not get tested in the first place...women are more likely to get tested because there is less stigma and because of childbearing.
    really??
    I thought just as many of each are tested.
    Dont more men join the military then females??
    About as many men join up per year as females have babies,they all get tested.
    Here's a great example: Have you been tested ? I'm guessing not but I could be wrong.
    Yup,i get tested alla time,but then i get a regular physical every year,most guys dont.

    Do you not consider yourself at risk ? If so why?
    Well,i was a whore in the 70's and 80's,and for the most part,the early 90's.
    It kinda went with the DJ/stripper joby job thing,and for most of that,hiv/aids hadent been invented yet.
    Now in the twilight of my life,my partner happens to be bisexual and we enjoy the company of others on occasion,safe sex of course.

    Will that be enough fodder for your cannons??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello~Kitty
    sigh...back to denial again.... so sad... god damn man....well no one can say I didn't try to reach you.

    signing off now
    well ok,nighty nighty.

    Hope you have good dreams.


    When you awake,please explain to me how if this lady says 58% of new hiv cases are from females in africa,how this has anything to do with the new cases of aids in america??
    What are the new cases in America??
    Thats all im asking.

    What is the largest group in America who has hiv/aids?
    What is the largest group in America who is getting hiv/aids???

    basic questions.

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    This one is good I'm off the edge of my seat ( am I at risk ? ) sorry I know this is serious . I am waiting for hk to wake up .

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    Too bad most stats for AIDS/HIV is 2 to 3 years old. Here's the CDC most recent stats revised March 15 2005 http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/2003SurveillanceReport.htm

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    Actually, I didn't see anyone disagree with the premise that heterosexuals comprise the fastest growing segment of the US population to contract AIDS. However, it was pointed out that the rapid growth from 4000 to 7000 cases, and again from 7000 to 10,000 cases (i.e. a 30+% growth rate) in no way indicates that hetersexual AIDS cases comprise a significant segment of total AIDS cases (even 10,000 out of 300,000+ total cases only comprises THREE PERCENT !)
    There's a desperate attempt in the US--as there has been since the early years of the Reagan era--to portray American heterosexuals at the same risk of contracting HIV as the homosexual and IV communities. The focus on "fastest growing segment" is a clear example of this (despite the woefully misleading application of said statistical data), and ignores twenty years of epidemiological data that unquestionably illustrates that MSM and IV groups continue to make up the overwhelming bulk of HIV/AIDS cases on a per annum basis. In reality, the "fastest growing segment" of infected heterosexuals in the US are black women, many of whom have no idea that their partners are either bisexual or homosexual, or that they are inadvertently in a high-risk group.

    Again, look at exposure category numbers from the CDC through 2003.

    This has not a damn thing to do with equal rights for gays--which is a 14th Amendment issue by any objective measure--but only accurate epidemiological studies and accurate assessments of affected communities and subgroups.

    When people accept that HIV is largely the result of cultural norms within those subgroups--as shown in not only sub-Saharan Africa but major MSM communities within the West--then the focus of transmission reduction will be more accurate and less politically motivated.
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    WOW KITTY....u kick ass!

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