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    Default Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    Some here seem to feel that this:
    http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-03-01-12#S1.1X

    is a pro-homosexual agenda propoganda website. Do you agree or disagree ?
    Here is an example of the opinion in question :

    Care to provide actual stats that differ,from something other then a homosexuals private web site,with nothing but pro homosexual propaganda and opinions??
    this sounds like propaganda to me,anything to distract from the 300K and actual facts..

    PS last poll for awhile, LOL, I promise
    Last edited by Hello~Kitty; 05-10-2005 at 12:19 PM.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    It's not a private website... It's owned by UCSF (University of California at San Francisco). The point of these article "Globally, women represent the majority of HIV-infected individuals. Clinical management of HIV infection in women requires considerable further study about HIV pathogenesis, coinfections, and reproductive tract malignancies. The methods of enrolling women in epidemiologic and clinical trials need improvement to achieve statistically significant results in end points, mortality, and natural history" is sound and true.
    Pro-Homosexual it is not by far. The mission of the site is continue research of retro viruses and oppurntisitc (spelling) infections associated with retro viruses.

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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muyaha
    It's not a private website... It's owned by UCSF (University of California at San Francisco)
    Exactly ! I pointed that out but......well it was ignored by the quoted person.... At least thus far anyway.

    I thought I'd see if anyone else is in agreement with that persons opinion. Obviously I am not, but it's always interesting to get others point of view and polls take up less site space than long threads

    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    It's not pro-sexual orientation of any kind.

    Its the global assessments from that site being used in this forum to draw inaccurate and fallacious parallels to HIV/AIDS contraction in the West (compared to sub-Saharan Africa, where most AIDS cases are found) that is in dispute.

    Other than that, the site seems rather straightforward and echos sentiments of some CDC surveillance reports and statistical compilations.
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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    Its the global assessments from that site being used in this forum to draw inaccurate and fallacious parallels to HIV/AIDS contraction in the West (compared to sub-Saharan Africa, where most AIDS cases are found) that is in dispute.
    This is the crux of the determination your poll asks the voter to make. On one level the information is accurate and a fair assessment of the African situation. On another level, no appropriate frame of reference is laid down to contrast the vast differences in AIDS infection patterns between Africa and the USA. Therefore it is very arguable that an ulterior motive/agenda lies behind the website i.e. using California state tax money to promote a false impression that American AIDS cases are not centered in the gay community, but follow infection patterns similar to Africa. In that light, the website is effectively helping the American gay cause by effectively using MD's and researchers with supposedly reputable credentials to lend creedence to their disinformation campaign.

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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    this is the crux of the determination your poll asks the voter to make.
    Nope. Wrong. It is a straight forward question . Do people agree or disagree with the quotes I listed that claim that website has a pro-gay propganda agenda.
    being used in this forum to draw inaccurate and fallacious parallels to HIV/AIDS contraction in the West
    Nope. That is either a lie or simply just an incorrect assumption. The section I listed in the other thread deals with the US. Go back and look at the section I posted , right there in bold print it says IN THE UNITED STATES........ and it was intended for one reason and one reason only : To offer data that shows that heterosexuals are the fastest growing segment of society in terms of new HIV cases.

    an ulterior motive/agenda lies behind the website i.e. using California state tax money to promote a false impression that American AIDS cases are not centered in the gay community
    again either a boldface lie or an incorrect assumption. The website deals with HIV as a whole and even includes a section that talks about alot of a different std showing up in the gay community. Hardly a pro gay stance.

    I notice only those of you who oppose equal rights for homosexuals taking issue with the info posted on that website. Coincedence ? Doubt it.

    the website is effectively helping the American gay cause by effectively using MD's and researchers with supposedly reputable credentials to lend creedence to their disinformation campaign.
    That is absurd on every level possible inluding the reasons listed above.......Furthermore it supports my position of you having anti gay opinions, which you are entitled to ofcourse, but it would sure be nice to see you tell the truth (imo) about things for once.

    Don't you understand that if you would just be honest people would more than likely just say "hey that's your pov, so be it"

    It's the fact that you claim to NOT be anti gay on ANY level that keeps this shit going. If you would just stop lying (imo) about not being anti gay then there would be little to nothing to say about it.

    Again I must point out that not one person has who doesn't oppose gay marriage ( equal rights for homosexuals) has voiced opposition in either this thread or the other one dealing with the hivinsite website.

    Coincedence ? Doubt it.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    Nope. That is either a lie or simply just an incorrect assumption. The section I listed in the other thread deals with the US. Go back and look at the section I posted , right there in bold print it says IN THE UNITED STATES........ and it was intended for one reason and one reason only : To offer data that shows that heterosexuals are the fastest growing segment of society in terms of new HIV cases.
    After which point, it attempts to illustrate parallels in California and Rhode Island with Kenya, Haiti, South Africa, Benin, Ivory Coast, Thailand, Uganda! WTF?! Did you not even read what you linked?

    Now you're just being selective with your own reference material.

    and it was intended for one reason and one reason only : To offer data that shows that heterosexuals are the fastest growing segment of society in terms of new HIV cases.
    And as covered before, "fastest growing" does not at all equate with "highest risk category" or "largest infected population, per annum" which is exactly the position you've taken in every thread on the issue in spite of the fact that the empirical data doesn't support such an assertion.

    I notice only those of you who oppose equal rights for homosexuals taking issue with the info posted on that website. Coincedence ? Doubt it.
    Another poor and pedestrian presumption on your part. I'm all about the 14th Amendment--which is why I support civil unions just as much as I'm opposed to affirmative racism.

    You can yell "homophobic" and "racist" all you like, but the reality is that no one cares about those terms anymore; they have no value because any time the Left has been backed into an uncomfortable policy corner, they resort to labelling. No one cares. If they did, the make up of the Congress would be substantially different.
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    Default Re: Do you think this website is pro gay propganda ?

    After which point, it attempts to illustrate parallels in California and Rhode Island with Kenya, Haiti, South Africa, Benin, Ivory Coast, Thailand, Uganda
    Did I post anything about that in either of these two thraeds? Does the opening post in that thread saying anything about any of those countries? Nope. That means you are wrong and imho LYING.

    And as covered before, "fastest growing" does not at all equate with "highest risk category" or "largest infected population, per annum" which is exactly the position you've taken in every thread on the issue
    Show me where I said anything other than fastest growing group? Again it is a LIE to say I wrote heteros are the highest risk or largest infected population. Your saying I have posted that here is flat out FUCKING LIE

    Another poor and pedestrian presumption on your part
    Call it that if you wish, it's my opinion , deal with it or put me on your ignore list if you wish ( I tried that but since we can see when other peopple quote those on our ignore list it was futile)


    You can yell "homophobic" and "racist" all you like, but the reality is that no one cares about those terms anymore
    Oh really is that why these are such "hot" topics on in Poo ? Is that why it's in the media all the time...because no one cares ? You obviouslyt care or why else would you be posting in these threads ? If no one cares then why is anyone posting in these threads.....Hmmmm maybe your wrong about that on C.O ...maybe people do care. I am someone and I care. That alone shows you're wrong., sorry buddy. Don't feel bad though , everyone is wrong sometimes.

    Just like I told Melonie~ if you would just admit to what is so obviously an anti gay pov rather than deny that you aren't anti gay on ANY level then there would be nothing to argue about. People including myself would be like " hey that's your opinion, I disagree but your entitled to your own opinions". It's the combined fact that you not only post anti gay comments but also deny they are anti gay that keeps this shit going.

    I'll remind you once again that no one who doesn't also oppose gay marriage is agreeing with you. The opposition is about one thing and one thing only. Discrimination against homosexuals. Think I am the only person who sees it that way ? Think again.

    The polls on this website say otherwise. The majority of people who voted think it's bigotry and I agree..... now do want to agree to disagree or shall we continue ? I vote to agree to disagree. How about you ?
    Last edited by Hello~Kitty; 05-11-2005 at 08:58 PM.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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