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    Well, out of the blue I decided to see what strip clubs are all about. An annoying habit of mine is I always like to be prepared and do my research before jumping into things, so... here I am.

    With just a little bit of browsing around, I've noticed some obvious do's and do-not's:
    1. Come clean. Shower, shave, etc.
    2. Don't be a jackass, i.e., keep hands to yourself unless otherwise permitted.
    3. What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

    Ok, cool, sounds logical and reasonable.

    Now onto the questions...

    1. "It's all about the Washingtons?"
    I've wisely decided to leave extra cash and all forms of plastic at home, and only bring in what I intend to or am willing to spend. But how much is how much is should I bring?

    1a. "I Don't Want to be Arrested for Paying with a 2 Dollar Bill."
    What denominations, and in what quantities? Remember, I'm a newbie at this, so...
    - What are $1's used for? How about $20's? Will I need the in-between denominations as well? I think I have some $2 bills stashed somewhere, would it be cute to tip stage dancers with them, or is that a no-no?

    1b. "And here's a shiny nickel for your trouble!"
    I assume I tip everyone that performs me some kind of service. But how much? Whatever's convenient ($4 drink = give the waitress $5, etc.) given change? How about services that have no inherent price tag? (Paying the DJ to play a song I like, etc.)
    And let's not forget the dancers. I assume the $1 bills are for tipping them; I guess I'll recieve the answer to this bundled with the above question.

    1c. "No, and we don't validate parking, either!"
    Is it kosher to ask the waitresses/bar for change?

    1d. "I don't want your dirty, dirty money!"
    Is having new, crisp bills mandatory? We all know how dirty money is; bills are handled by hundreds of people during their lifetime. Anything from bodily fluids to pathogens, to drugs of all flavors. Yum!
    I don't intend to stuff bills up people's asses (nor shove dollar bills down her throat and hit her with a chair ), but I understand some special ways of accepting tips involve the mouth?


    2. "Quit yo' jibba jabba!"
    Dancers, you know just as well as I do that men lose 50-100 IQ points in your presence. So forgive me if I'm having trouble discussing politics, world events, microbiology, American literature, cats, cryptology, or perhaps forming coherent sentences. I may really be trying!

    2a. I understand the girls, in theory, are supposed to let me choose the direction of the conversation, correct? Well in case i'm not entirely too talkative, will the girls generally try to strike up conversation?
    Let's say there's awkward silence, presumably awkward for both of us. Should I try to get something out, possibly sounding like an idiot in the process, or wait for her to initiate conversation?

    2b. To the best of my ability, I'll always retain enough decency not to *perfrom grab ass* or make excessively dirty (and and unfunny) comments, unless she gives me the go-ahead.
    Unfortunately, me sitting there slack-jawed, gawking, drooling (not literally), or mumbling unintelligibly is all too possible. In short, it's possible that I'm going to be a pervert at a strip club. Go figure.
    Is this bad? Will I get slapped, or giggled at, or rolls eyes'd, or talked about in the dressing roomed? Or is this just another part of the job?

    2c. It's a simple fact that a stripper will never have sex or go out on a date, or whatever.
    Is it not OK to hit on the dancers? In an entirely playful sense, entirely expecting "No" for an answer.
    FYI, "Hey, wanna give me your number?" or "Hey, wanna go out?" or "Wanna run to Vegas and get married?" with a smile is very different from "Wanna suck my cock, bitch!" or *grabs ass*.
    Is this cool, or don't even bother? I mean, even if she doesn't catch the joke, what's the worst that can happen? (I'm only asking for a phone number, etc. after all.)

    2d. As an extra layer of protection intended to further differentiate the fantasy from the reality, would it be wrong to lie when she asks about me? A subtle misdirection with the purpose of reminding me This Isn't Real is indistinguisable from the truth. Or should I rather slightly obviously embellish? "I'm a porn star."
    Delivered, of course, without seriousness - she'd obviously know I was kidding.


    3. Howstuffworks.com/stripping
    If only...
    Anyway on to dancing lessons!

    3a. I'm making some major assumptions, for you to correct if they're wrong. It's to my understanding that most clubs have a "stage", often home of the infamous pole. I tip stage dancers with the $1 bills, correct? Do I tip the ones I like? Or tip all the ones dancing for me, and give the ones I like a little extra? How often are these little tips handed out? Per song?
    Sitting in the front row and not tipping is probably a big faux pas. What about sitting in the corner and not tipping. Would that make me a freeloader?
    What, generally, is the level of interaction in these dances?

    3b. Given that there's a whole forum dedicated to tactics on selling these, I'm guessing a major part of The Strip Club Experience is "private dancing", or "lap dancing", whatever.
    It's pretty self explanatory, but this IS when the a girl dances for me, right? I know what constitutes or is involved in lap dances varies from state to state, club to club, girl to girl. But the definition is essentially, 1 on 1, correct?
    - Now does she come to my table, or does she take me to a private room? Or are these themselves on different tiers?
    - These are the ones that cost around $10 - $30, right? And they last per song? Should I buy a set, and tip after the set?
    - Do I solicit a private dance from a girl, or will she proposition me? Or, like most things, do we meet somewhere midway, Two to Tango? Should I drop hints that I'm interested? Will she break the ice if I can't?
    - As I understand it, this is the majority of a dancer's income. If it's a slow night, am I more likely to get offers from multiple girls?
    - In that situation, how do I say no? I'm only partially serious... it's hard enough when you're clothed!
    But really, are there any tips on how to get the girl I like while keeping my horizons broad?
    - Speaking of The Girl I Like, I should (especially as a newbie) spread my attention around before locking onto one "favorite", yes? Even then, I shouldn't focus exclusively on her, no? I'm 99% sure this is the way to go, looking for affirmation.
    Now, any tips on "sampling"? Yes, I can buy dances from all of them, but what's a quicker and cheaper to "sample" early on? I mean, the hottest girl might not give the best dances.

    3c. In some areas, certain kinds of touching are against the rules.
    Now why the hell would I want to report a girl that's breaking the rules? (Assuming girlfriend doesn't find out.)


    4. Clothes make the man?
    So you'll be wearing (almost) nothing; what do I wear?
    I know to avoid rough clothing with hard protrusions, anything that might cause chaffing, etc. What else?
    - Buttons: not OK?
    - Jeans: too rough?
    - T-Shirts: Cool? (there is no dress code) Might look wierd with a t-shirt if I'm wearing nice pants, though.
    - More tips?

    FYI, as a freshly digenarian student working in tech, my wardrobe is rather... limited. It's all either casual "jeans + t-shirt" stuff, or much nicer stuff for interviews or formal stuff (some of that stuff is a bitch to get cleaned, and has buttons anyway, which is why I'm hesitant).

    In doubt, which side should I err on? Dress up or dress down? (With priority on observing comfort rules, of course.)

    Now comfort for both parties is paramount, but will my dress significantly affect how dancers treat me?


    5. Misc

    - Finding a club... SCL and SCJ reviews have been helpful so far. Any other (local) sources of information, besides my friends?

    - It'll be fun to bring some friends a long. (That is encouraged, isn't it?) Are large groups preferred? Small groups? Solo?

    - I'm looking at clubs in the Kansas area, because I have some friends there. There seems to be a lot more variety in Dallas, but I'll have to go alone. And I hear the laws are more strict, especially in Wichita?

    - Do places usually have special events, weekly or otherwise? What's a good day to visit?

    - I hate to start shit, or get involved in it, and I rarely do. But a character fault of mine is the inability to "let it go" when dealing with jackasses. Even worse are assholes in places of authority, since I'm inclined to treat them like any other idiot. Getting into fights with management or security would be a Bad Thing™, which I'd like to avoid. Hopefully the presence of hot half-naked girls will mellow me out?
    Meh, worst case scenario, I give them the finger, tell them to fuck off, and leave and never come back.

    - How long should I stay? How short should I stay? How long is a typical visit? Now, a lot of that is up to my discretion, but are there "unwritten rules" regarding length of visit?

    - I can't bring cats in, can I?


    Okay, that's all I have for now; I'm sure I'll be back with more later. Thanks for your help.

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    Default Re: RFC: Give a SC beginner some hints?

    wow...dude, just take a bath, dress like you're not a bum, bring as much as you want to spend, and go have a good time.

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    Default Re: RFC: Give a SC beginner some hints?

    Here's a thread you may find of interest....

    "Rules for Customers"
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36352
    If you can't win. Make the fellow in front of you break the record.


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    Default Re: RFC: Give a SC beginner some hints?

    I can understand your predisposal to research, but geeeez, take a chill pill, get a couple hundred from the ATM, relax, and ENJOY YOURSELF. In my opinion, you are WAY over-analyzing this whole endeavor to the point that it will interfere with your purpose, which is to have fun with beautiful women!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    how much $ should I bring?
    Depends on how long you plan on staying, and what you plan on doing when you get there (ie tip stage, drink, get dances, VIP). If you don't see a VIP room in your future, I think about $100-$200 for a couple of hours should be more than enough for drinks, stage tips and some dances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    What denominations, and in what quantities?
    What's the problem with $2 bills? They are legal tender, and I find most dancers find them cool to be tipped with, especially if it's at a club where it's not too common. Best to use ones that are fairly new though, cause some will want to keep them.

    As far as denominations go, don't worry. You can get change at the club.

    Personally I like $1, $2 & $5's for making various tips at the stage, and larger bills to pay for dances, but that is just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    I assume I tip everyone that performs me some kind of service. how much?
    Tipping helps. Not everyone does it, in fact many do not, so most anything you do will surely be appreciated. I tip the waitress $2 for every drink she brings me, but again this is just me. I'll tip anyone else $1 for some basic serivce. If a bouncer really does save my table and look over stuff when I step outside for a smoke or am off somewhere, then I will tip a $5 for some real service rendered. I hate bathroom attendents, but will throw a $1.

    Tipping the DJ...hrm. Unless it's customary, you should not be going anywhere near the DJ booth. Now perhaps you can make a song sugesstion to a dancer, and give her the money to tip to the DJ to play a song during her set.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    Is it kosher to ask the waitresses/bar for change?
    Yes - I usually tip a $1 for this, but not mandatory, especially if you are tipping her well for the drinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    Is having new, crisp bills mandatory?
    Most of the money you get as change from the club may be recyled. You get $1's from the club, give them to the dancer, they change them back to the club at end of the shift, and the cycle starts all over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    ...forgive me if I'm having trouble discussing politics, world events, microbiology or perhaps forming coherent sentences.
    Don't worry. Just keep the convo away from personal information or making fun of other dancers, and you'll be fine. Besides the only thing she really wants to hear is "yes" when she asks if you'd like a dance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    ...Well in case i'm not entirely too talkative, will the girls generally try to strike up conversation? Let's say there's awkward silence...
    Well if you stare off, and say nothing, she may assume you don't want her company and move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    ... I'll always retain enough decency not to *perfrom grab ass* or make excessively dirty (and and unfunny) comments, Is this bad? ...Or is this just another part of the job?
    Well to some extent it's a part of the environment. Something they deal with all the time, so she'll prolly be used to it. However, being polite and actually being a gentleman will certainly be appreciated my most. Especially if you ever plan on making a return visit. Money aside, all things being equal, being polite could mean the difference between her spending a few extra moments just hanging out with you or leaving immediately to go find her next dance or another customer who is more pleasent to be arround.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    Is it not OK to hit on the dancers? In an entirely playful sense, entirely expecting "No" for an answer.
    Don't bother, especially during a first visit to a club or first encounter with a dancer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    would it be wrong to lie when she asks about me?
    Hey do what you want. It is a fantasy. If you want to come up with another life story go ahead. She prolly won't care. Just keep in mind if you plan to continue the story should you ever visit again, or if you care if your caught later on.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    3a. I tip stage dancers with the $1 bills, correct? Do I tip the ones I like? Or tip all the ones dancing for me, and give the ones I like a little extra? How often are these little tips handed out? Per song?
    If you are sitting at the tip rail, the area right at the stage, then it is proper to tip at least $1 per song to every dancer that comes up. Be prepared to do this. Now she might be on for a three song set, during a crowded night, and never make it back for a second tip during songs 2 or 3, but still you have to be ready. If you can't handle this then sit back from the stage.

    Yes if you like the dance tip something more.

    If you would like to get a dance from the dancer after her set, then you can tip something more to show you are serious. Also, be sure to let her know. Not all dancers look at the tip every customer gives them, and you don't want to have her wondering who gave her the $20 when she's done while you sit and wonder why she never came back to see you.

    (Side note: If you do arrange to meet her after her set for a dance, move back from the tip rail. Not polite for her to hustle for dances at the tip rail. In the situation where you are pulled from the tip rail, be sure to at least throw a $1 to the dancer on stage before you leave with another dancer.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    - Now does she come to my table, or does she take me to a private room?
    - These are the ones that cost around $10 - $30, right? And they last per song? Should I buy a set, and tip after the set?
    - Do I solicit a private dance from a girl, or will she proposition me?
    - As I understand it, this is the majority of a dancer's income. If it's a slow night, am I more likely to get offers from multiple girls?
    - In that situation, how do I say no? But really, are there any tips on how to get the girl I like while keeping my horizons broad?
    - Speaking of The Girl I Like, I should (especially as a newbie) spread my attention around before locking onto one "favorite", yes? Even then, I shouldn't focus exclusively on her, no?
    Now, any tips on "sampling"? Yes, I can buy dances from all of them, but what's a quicker and cheaper to "sample" early on? I mean, the hottest girl might not give the best dances.
    Whoa, lots of Q's here....

    - Depends on the club. Some will do a "table dance" at your seat, some will take you to a semi private area in some other part of the club

    - You can buy dances one at a time or in a set. If you know how many you are getting I find it is best to make it clear up front, then you can both just relax and let her do her thing. If you're not sure, or if you want another dance after her song or set is done, you can ask. She prolly won't mind continuing. Personally if I'm buying a bunch of dances I like to pay up front. Others have different opinions on this. I think it's best to clear it up, then she knows what she's getting and doesn't have to worry about if you are going to cheat her or not. Also, if I should then decide to tip extra, it's separated from the initial payment. Just how I do it though.

    - You can wait for her to come to you, or if you see she is not currently engaged with another customer you can approach her. Tipping her extra on stage, and letting her know of your interest in a dance is a good way to drop a hint. Eye contact and a smile when she walks by is another way to show you'd like her company.

    - Be prepared to be asked for a dance by every girl working a given shift. They are just doing their job. A polite "No thank you" is fine. Try not to say "Maybe Later" unless you actually mean it, and don't waste a dancer's time with 10 min of convo only to turn her down when she makes the pitch for a dance. Just be honest, upfront, and polite.

    - Some guys have different styles and different ways of selecting the dancer(s) that are right for them. This you'll just have to come up with on your own. Some guys use the buffet approach, like to sample a little of everything. Me I like to scout out a little first. Spot a dancer, see how she interacts with other customers, see her on stage, talk with her for a moment, and then empty my wallet on one. Just my style, neither is more right or wrong than the other.

    - As far as sampling, sometimes clubs do things to help you out like $1 dances or such. You can get a bunch of dances from different dancers. If the dances are done in a visable area, you can sort of look over to see if a dancer give the kind of dance you think you'd enjoy - look, but don't stare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    In some areas, certain kinds of touching are against the rules.
    Now why the hell would I want to report a girl that's breaking the rules?

    However, to make sure YOU don't break any rules either for the club or the dancer, best to get the rules up front so there is no misunderstandings.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    what do I wear?
    Kakies are fine. Nice shirt. Keep it simple and neat and you'll be alright


    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    - Finding a club... SCL and SCJ reviews have been helpful so far. Any other (local) sources of information, besides my friends?
    TUSCL.com Give one review, get a free 30-day membership and ability to look over club reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    - It'll be fun to bring some friends a long. (That is encouraged, isn't it?) Are large groups preferred? Small groups? Solo?
    I find solo is best, or one buddy. Large groups actually tend to get avoided sometimes. Too rowdy and too much trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    - Do places usually have special events, weekly or otherwise? What's a good day to visit?
    Depends on the club or your style. Clubs sometimes run special promotions on slower nights. Some will have Amateur night contests, some will have feature performers come in. If the club has a web site check it out.

    As for a night you go, it depends on your style. Me I like a slower laid back atmosphere, so I will go on a weekday night or a weekend afternoon. Some like the energy of a full club so they go on a Fri or Sat night, usually the busiest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    - I hate to start shit...
    Ok, so don't start anything then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    - How long should I stay?
    Stay as long as your having fun, have money to spend, and the club is open.
    If you can't win. Make the fellow in front of you break the record.


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    I tried to answer this question by question, but I couldn't even get through question 2 before carpal tunnel set in. I'm sure JZ and Verf said about anything I wouldv'e said.

    Anyways...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    An annoying habit of mine is I always like to be prepared and do my research before jumping into things, so... here I am.
    While the extensiveness of your questions makes me wonder if you're overanalizing things here, there's always that old tongue twister: Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

    Needless to say, its a night at the strip club, not the Normandy Invasion.

    Shower, dress casual but clean, bring money, spend money, be poite, respect the dancers' boundaries, tip properly and have fun. Do those and you've probably shown to have practiced better etiquette than 75% of the people there.

    Don't sweat it if in the heat of things you make some faux pas. You're not the first person to find the atmosphere at a club confusing, and you certainly won't be the last.

    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    So either Wichita KS sometime this week (I'm up here now), or next week with my friends in Dallas/Ft. Worth. (Or hell, why not both.)

    In KS there's Michelle's, Jezebel's, Pleasures, I think I'm missing some. (been to some of those, doc?)

    In TX there's Texas Caberet in Fort Worth, which I've heard good things about. Only problem is it's in the middle of town, which I hate going to.

    Think I'll go for a weekday night, I don't like hectic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mreow
    In KS there's Michelle's, Jezebel's, Pleasures, I think I'm missing some. (been to some of those, doc?)
    Yes, I've dumped many a paycheck in all three. They're the only three clubs in the Wichita area worth your time.

    In TX there's Texas Caberet in Fort Worth, which I've heard good things about. Only problem is it's in the middle of town, which I hate going to.
    A lot of the better clubs in DFW are in Dallas, but the metroplex can be a bitch to get across at rush hour. If you're stuck out on the west side and don't mind low mileage you may want to give New Orleans Nights a try.
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