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    Default Dancers...Discriminating?Profiler?Racist?

    As of late,i have been involved in a few discussions on discrimination,everything from religion,race,birthplace,etc.
    Just a light hearted poll ment to spark discussion,not flames .(responses will be secret ballot on the pole to try to keep it cuddly .)

    1.Do dancers openly discriminate when at work??
    2.Do they openly profile?
    3.are they openly racist?

    some examples....

    3 guys walk thru the door at the same time.
    a.white guy
    b.black guy
    c.hispanic/latino guy
    Do you approach one faster then the other?


    Two black guys walk in the door.
    a.has what looks like a 2000 dollar suit on,new shoes,bling bling top to bottom.
    b.has baggy jeans on,doo rag,hood ornament on fake gold chain around his neck.
    Who do you approach faster?

    Two white guys walk in the room.
    a.tight jordach jeans,sleeveless pink half shirt, a matching headband and shoes,giving three snaps up as he walks.
    b.wearing the same outfit that was on the cover of last months GQ magazine.

    Do you prefere to give lapdances to any race?
    Do you prefer not to give a lapdance to any race?

    Have you ever thought or said this "(insert race here)guys just dont like me"

    If your in a large club,do the dancers group by color in the dressing room and on the floor?(do all the black dancers sit with each other,swap outfits between them,etc)

    Just a few examples to help.

    Its my opinion,and I might be the only one who thinks like this.
    But I think for an entertainer to be (EorA)ffective during the night,she has to do a little of it all.
    Discriminating and profiling and racial.


    When you enter a roomfull of guys at a club,do you pass bye the white guys in suits,the mexicans with hard hats,or the black guys wearing gang colors to get to your prey?
    Or do you start at one side of the room and work your way around,stopping at every table??
    If you skip a table,wouldnt it be for one of those reasons??

    Im not trying to rag on dancers,I lubs you gals.

    Im just trying to get some of them to see,we are all human,we all do it.

    I dont think anyone doubts that the stripping industry itself is racist,it discriminates,and it profiles.

    Im not saying dancers are as guilty or more guilty,im just saying they do it all night long at work.

    so what do you think??
    Do dancers discriminate?
    Do they profile?
    Are they racist??

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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profiler?Racist?

    I usually approach the white guys first, not because I'm racist, but because black guys rarely buy dances from me. I think I've done dances for two black guys in my three years of dancing.

    As far as clothing goes, I actually approach the guys who are casually dressed first. This is strange, but I make more money off of guys wearing jeans or casual clothes than I make off of guys in suits.

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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profiler?Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by blondhottie
    I usually approach the white guys first, not because I'm racist, but because black guys rarely buy dances from me. I think I've done dances for two black guys in my three years of dancing.
    I really really dont think that makes you a racist.
    I do think your racial profiling when you enter a room of customers.
    I see no problem with this application at all.
    As far as clothing goes, I actually approach the guys who are casually dressed first. This is strange, but I make more money off of guys wearing jeans or casual clothes than I make off of guys in suits.
    depends on the club of course,but i agree,alot of times the suits suck!

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    The only thing I have been guilty of saying is, "Asian guys just don't like me." This isn't always the case, but the majority of Asian guys tip the thinner, smaller girls. In their society, this is the norm and is more attractive to most of them than my thicker build. I don't avoid Asian's, I just don't expect to make much money from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April
    The only thing I have been guilty of saying is, "Asian guys just don't like me." This isn't always the case, but the majority of Asian guys tip the thinner, smaller girls. In their society, this is the norm and is more attractive to most of them than my thicker build. I don't avoid Asian's, I just don't expect to make much money from them.
    so would you call that racial profiling??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    oh no my little lotus blossum,this is just a honest peek under the covers so to speak.
    Very funny,BigGreen.

    In New Orleans,the majority of clients we get are tourists and conventioneers.They come in dressed in slacks and dress shirts.They are mostly white.
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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profilers?Racists?

    Well, I'm sure BIggreen that you know the answer to this when it comes to the clubs I've worked with you in.
    Some dancers just enjoy certain types of men, sometimes it's the way they are dressed (regardless of race.) And sometimes the way they act towards us.
    I think age is a big factor for me, I avoid the young ones that are dressed like "thugs" and this is only because they usually go "hey baby, come on over here, can I get your number?" They haven't tipped and don't want a dance. Now, if they come to me and ask for one, I feel so surprised, I think I give them my all.
    Personally I look at body language rather than race, if they tip me and seem interested I am theirs, if not then bye bye.
    I've known a few dancers that don't like "mexicans" and their reason is that they are always hands on. I don't have the problem because I am nearly fluent in spanish and they don't try anything.
    Plus there is the rape issue, there was a post a while back about that. Girls react differently to guy that looks similar to the one that has hurt them in the past.
    All in all, whoever tips me atleast gets a thank you and/or hug.
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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profilers?Racists?

    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    Very funny,BigGreen.
    sorry,was just kidding.
    In New Orleans,the majority of clients we get are tourists and conventioneers.They come in dressed in slacks and dress shirts.They are mostly white.
    Ok so if a white group of conventioners walked in at the same time a construction crew of mexicans did,and another group of black guys wearing baggy clothes and colors,are you preset in who you would walk up to first?

    No answer you give can be wrong imo.

    Im saying,if you always walk up to the white guys first,thats racial profiling(for dancer wealth so im ok with it)

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    I will walk up to the group of white guys first.The construction workers are more likely to be locals and will spend less money.In my experience,black guys don't treat dancers well.Keep in mind,I live in the south.
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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profilers?Racists?

    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    I will walk up to the group of white guys first.The construction workers are more likely to be locals and will spend less money.
    I have no problem with that at all.
    But wouldnt you vote that its profiling and verges on all of the above????

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    I have 11 years of this under my belt.I know what works and what doesn't.
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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profilers?Racists?

    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    I will walk up to the group of white guys first.The construction workers are more likely to be locals and will spend less money.In my experience,black guys don't treat dancers well.Keep in mind,I live in the south.
    I once refused to talk to a black man that another dancer said wanted to speak to me (I got yelled at for it.)
    MY reason was not that he was black but because of who he was sitting with, they were a group of very rude (yes, black) men, regardless of the color of their skin, that sat at the back, groped dancers as they walked by, never tipped, and kept asking for numbers. I REFUSE to waste my time on them. The girl was mulatto herself and acted insulted, this was one of my fave. dancers, but since she was drunk she was hard to reason with. She told me she was groped by old white men all the time, and I told her I was too, and avoided them as well.
    I think it's all in how a customer presents himself rather than race.
    If you dress up to some to the strip "club" then you are always welcomed and appreciated, and do get attention.
    If you come dressed in the same overalls you fixed your car with and we know we have to rub our perfumed bodies against you, you are avoided.
    IF you are loud and obnoxious, DO NOT tip but expect attention you are avoided.
    I know racism exists, but I don't want to see it because I don't want it in my life.
    Heck, some customers are "racist" against us because of hair color or our tan.

    Then again, some dancers are more comfortable with a certain "type" of customer. I know many black dancers that don't give young men the time of day because the majority of the ones that come in, sit in groups, don't tip or loudly expect more for a dollar, and become indignant if they don't get some kind of sexual favor.
    I think it depends on the location, the dancer and how the customer acts when he is in the club.

    *Sorry this was so long.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    I have 11 years of this under my belt.I know what works and what doesn't.
    I have no doubts about that at all,its what makes you perfect for this poll.

    Is "what works"to discriminate and racially profile all night long as you go thru the room??
    I say it is.
    I say there is nothing wrong with it.
    Its"what works".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    I have no doubts about that at all,its what makes you perfect for this poll.

    Is "what works"to discriminate and racially profile all night long as you go thru the room??
    I say it is.
    I say there is nothing wrong with it.
    Its"what works".
    Unfortunately,that is the truth.There are just certain demographics that spend more money and treat us better.
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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profilers?Racists?

    i admit that i puposely head for the older white guys, because they tend to be the ones who have that "little black girl" fantasy, tee hee! i try to avoid the guys that look like they just fell off a tractor, because at some point they are going to tell me that i'm the "prettiest colored thing i've seen since my television" or something even more classy. and yes someone really did say that to me i don't usually make an effort to talk to the young black guys because i'm the only black dancer at my club on night shift so generally they come to me also they usually only tip me until they listen to me talk or realize that i don't do that booty shake thing that black girls are obligated to do. No one at my club talks to the mexicans because they have a reputation for being cheap. not saying its true, just what the girls think. seriously, i usually try to give everyone a chance to be blessed with my greatness(just kidding), but in my experience, it does seem like some of the racial stereotypes(profiling?) are true a lot of the time. i hate to say that though because i deal with it so much myself

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    In my case,the guys have the "Asian fantasy".Hey,whatever floats your boat fellas,LOL!!!
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    I want to be asian sometimes, but with bigger boobs... hmmmmmmmmmm?
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    Default Re: Dancers...Discriminating?Profilers?Racists?

    OK I've held my tongue so far in regard to this thread. Now let's throw a little of 'mainstream' business regulations into the 'what if's'. Suppose the law REQUIRED every dancer to spend an equal amount of time with every customer, regardless of race, appearance, or affluence. Suppose that dancers faced the possibility of lawsuits (and the possibility of being ordered to pay a fine/settlement) if they consistently devoted more time and effort to affluent white guys than they devoted to blacks and hispanics. How would this change your outlook in regard to the way you conducted business in the future ?

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    Are all these men required to tip or pay us for our time?
    I think that is the reason many dancers choose a "certain" type of man.
    We have to pay to be there, so we speak to whomever seems to want to spend the money in his wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild
    We have to pay to be there, so we speak to whomever seems to want to spend the money in his wallet.
    I agree with that...... I approach customers whose BEHAVIOR indicates to me they might be interested in spending money on tips or dances with me...I don't care what they look like..... I give any customer whose appears interested a shot and go from there.
    Example of discrimination (Imho):

    the only prudent way to treat Islamics in the US and western europe today is along the same vein as Russians and Eastern Europeans were treated during the 'cold war' days - with some degree of suspicion warranted until proven otherwise !

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44590




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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    OK I've held my tongue so far in regard to this thread. Now let's throw a little of 'mainstream' business regulations into the 'what if's'. Suppose the law REQUIRED every dancer to spend an equal amount of time with every customer, regardless of race, appearance, or affluence. Suppose that dancers faced the possibility of lawsuits (and the possibility of being ordered to pay a fine/settlement) if they consistently devoted more time and effort to affluent white guys than they devoted to blacks and hispanics. How would this change your outlook in regard to the way you conducted business in the future ?
    I'm sure you've seen the sign,"We have the right to refuse service to anyone".No one can make us talk to all the customers.
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    We have to pay to be there, so we speak to whomever seems to want to spend the money in his wallet.
    so does every store in every shopping mall, every stylist in a hair salon (have to pay to be there) ...

    I'm sure you've seen the sign,"We have the right to refuse service to anyone".No one can make us talk to all the customers.
    and what do you suppose would happen to a restaurant, hair salon, bar, shopping mall storefront, or 'lunch counter' who posts the exact same sign stating "We have the right to refuse service to anyone", and then proceeded to refuse service to every black and hispanic who walked in ?

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    ^^ Gee Melonie, is that what you're advocating?

    BTW, it's a bit offensive to be referred to as a "black" or a "hispanic". Let's try B(b)lack person and Hispanic person.

    Actually, the whole assuming Black men and Latino men are such cheap, uncouth bastards and White men are the holy freaking grail is offensive. It's ridiculous how people group all Black men and Latino men into one group, but yet "classify" White men as White businessmen or older White men, or young college frat boys. But all Black men are ghetto and all Latino men are grabby perverts. Right.

    Demeanor is what determines whether or not I'll approach someone. HISTORICALLY, Black men do not tip me. I've danced for less than 10 during my two years of dancing (yes, I have approached them). HISTORICALLy, Latino men do not approach me either. HISTORICALLy, White men approach me and have contributed 95% of the Amethyst Shake-It-Fast Fund. I'm also in at a club where the majority of patrons are White older businessmen, so that probably has something to do with it. of course, since there have been exceptions (not every White man wants to wed me and not every Black man or Latino man finds me repulsive), it would be extremely silly of me to say "all Black men & Latino men are this" or "all White men are that".

    I learned my lesson from profiling the hard way (I "learned" to profile on this site) and had to de-program myself from doing it . I didn't approach people because of the way they looked and watched dancers who weren't caught up in customers' ethnicities & what shoes they were wearring bank while I got stuck with the White businessmen who weren't doing sh*t.

    I do have to concede that it is hard for me to approach young guys b/c they truly grate my nerves. Yes, there have been exceptions and no I'm not perfect, so I still need to work on that.


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    tight jordach jeans,sleeveless pink half shirt, a matching headband and shoes,giving three snaps up as he walks.
    Is he giving those three snaps in a Z-formation? If so, then he can get this lap dance here fo' free


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    A customer won't spend money on you if you aren't his "type".That's profiling too.As a dancer,you can pick and chose with whom you wish to do business.This is not like an average business.
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