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    Smiley ! several questions !

    *i apologize in advance if these questions have been addressed before on the board, there are just so many threads, i cant read em all! (at least not all tonight)*

    hi ladies! im 22& ive been considering dancing for a while now. i am a student and i used to model back in new york, but i am not sure if i have the right look for dancing. i have confidence and i know that i am beautiful, and it seems that confidence is a big part of it but i also know that dancing is "making fantasy reality" for customers. i recently read jenna jameson's book & she was talking about when she first met jennifer, how she thought she was so beautiful, but when men looked at her they saw someone who resembled more their wives/girlfriends than the fantasy girl that men come to clubs to see, therefore she really didnt make much money.

    so, aside from the questions i am going to post, here are some photos -- (my hair is mostly blonde now) if you would, honestly tell me if i would make any money / getting into this business would be worthwhile for me:





    *this one is silly, a friend made me it for my birthday ,but thats me in the middle -- its the only full body shot i have at the moment because im not on my own computer



    _im 5'10 -- ive read that some clubs require girls to wear a certain size heel. is anyone else this tall? 5'' heels will send me way over six feet, taller than most men. the majority of strippers ive seen / known seem to be shorter / more petite. any words of wisdom on this matter?

    _exercises -- crunches, squats, etc. any machines anyone would recommend? i have access to a school gym.

    _ the nicest club in pittsburgh (from what i've read/heard) is maybe 2 miles down the street from my apartment building. im going to check it out this week as it seems to be the one i would be most interested in working at. would this be a totally ridiculous idea -- too risky/dangerous? even if i had a car pick me up & drop me off? would it be a silly idea to work that close to where i live?

    _ some of the research ive done on this club says that the girls do "extras" in the champagne rooms. im pretty sure i know what that means & i know that im not interested in doing "extras," so if it comes up, how do you deal with that situation? if certain customers are used to this (apparently steelers & other somewhat famous clientele frequent this place), does that mean its going to effect how much money im making when i say no?

    thanks so much for reading all of this & any replies / advice would be appreciated greatly!

    xoxo

    L

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    For every variation of a woman, there is a man who prefers it. I answer phones where my sister works and match girls up to callers for private shows and parties. I can't tell you how many times we havent had a girl who is short enough, or tall enough, or slim enough, or whatever the preference may be, who is available. So tall is fine, great, and in alot of cases, an asset. As far as being to close to work goes, I can only tell you that you will have to sort that out. I wouldn't prefer to live that close to the club, if for no other reason than because it would greatly increase the likelyhood of seeing people you know. That may be a non-issue for some, however.
    I think you are gorgeous, by the way. Good Luck!

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    You are super hot and plenty of men want the amazon looking chica, I'm new to the business. And I already know that you can't please ALL the men ALL the time. But the ones who like you...make it worth it. I say GO FOR IT!!!
    If everything you try is a sure thing, you aren't taking enough risks. If you never fail, you put a limit on the degree to which you can succeed. In short, the only way to win big is to risk losing

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    You have a really beautiful, exotic looking face! Love the full lips. You will do very well dancing.


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    I believe you Dottie and you have my support






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    thanks so much <3 i think i just needed to hear it from people who know what theyre doing & not just my boyfriend, you know? i'll keep you guys posted! as for me being comfortable about working close to my apartment, the building itself is really high security -- 24 hour doorman & a "buzz in" system & whatnot, so thats not really an issue.. . i guess maybe running into rich old men who live in my building & go to the club might be, but i dont think id really care.

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    Just remember, stripping isnt all about looks. Its about the hustle too. Learn to work the hustle, and you will make LOTS of money.

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    yesyes, im keeping that in mind. it seems more about that than anything else really. im pretty charming when i want to be so i think i might actually be pretty good once i get over my first night jitters. we'll see.. . thanks again!~

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    You're really pretty, I think you would do well.

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    You are damn hott! I am sure you will do great! Muaaah!

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    I can't really help with anything but the height, but I'm 5'9 1/2 and wear 6.5 heels and it's never seemed to pose a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thin lizzy
    honestly tell me if i would make any money / getting into this business would be worthwhile for me
    yes youll be great!

    im 5'10 -- ive read that some clubs require girls to wear a certain size heel. is anyone else this tall? 5'' heels will send me way over six feet, taller than most men. the majority of strippers ive seen / known seem to be shorter / more petite. any words of wisdom on this matter?
    There is someone for everyone out there, you height will be appreciated.

    exercises -- crunches, squats, etc. any machines anyone would recommend? i have access to a school gym.
    Cardio, cardio, youll most likely develop strenght just by dancing. Keep your movement controlled and sloooooowwww. A good guage of this is by how sore youll be the next day.

    the nicest club in pittsburgh (from what i've read/heard) is maybe 2 miles down the street from my apartment building. im going to check it out this week as it seems to be the one i would be most interested in working at. would this be a totally ridiculous idea -- too risky/dangerous? even if i had a car pick me up & drop me off? would it be a silly idea to work that close to where i live?
    Hmmmm. Can't say. It is a little close, I would just use common sense and don't let custys know how close you live, psychos like strip clubs too.

    some of the research ive done on this club says that the girls do "extras" in the champagne rooms. im pretty sure i know what that means & i know that im not interested in doing "extras," so if it comes up, how do you deal with that situation?. . does that mean its going to effect how much money im making when i say no?
    My take on extras is. . . I am soo worth way more than they will evr be able to pay me, it's gross and I just don't even consider it. Just say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thin lizzy
    _im 5'10 -- ive read that some clubs require girls to wear a certain size heel. is anyone else this tall? 5'' heels will send me way over six feet, taller than most men. the majority of strippers ive seen / known seem to be shorter / more petite. any words of wisdom on this matter?
    Don't worry. Many tall girls just get even taller in clubs. Check with your club about it, but most places require a 4" heel.

    Quote Originally Posted by thin lizzy
    _exercises -- crunches, squats, etc. any machines anyone would recommend? i have access to a school gym.
    Doing a good balanced routine is always great. All over toning is the key! (But honestly, you look very hot as it is. Plus dancing is a great workout in of itself.)

    Quote Originally Posted by thin lizzy
    _ the nicest club in pittsburgh (from what i've read/heard) is maybe 2 miles down the street from my apartment building. im going to check it out this week as it seems to be the one i would be most interested in working at. would this be a totally ridiculous idea -- too risky/dangerous? even if i had a car pick me up & drop me off? would it be a silly idea to work that close to where i live?
    I've worked places even closer. And used my own car. Someone who knows your area might be able to advise a bit better than me.

    Quote Originally Posted by thin lizzy
    _ some of the research ive done on this club says that the girls do "extras" in the champagne rooms. im pretty sure i know what that means & i know that im not interested in doing "extras," so if it comes up, how do you deal with that situation? if certain customers are used to this (apparently steelers & other somewhat famous clientele frequent this place), does that mean its going to effect how much money im making when i say no?
    It shouldn't affect your dancing earnings, but obviously you won't be making the extra $100 or whatever for an HJ in the VIP. But don't worry about money like that. Just say no. Missing out on $100 is a whole lot better than feeling shitty because you did something you swore you wouldn't do.

    Good luck!!!!!

    P.S. I love the way you do your eye-liner. I've never been able to pull that off. I'm so jealous!



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    I think you will be great..read hustle hut archives and check out a couple books on sales techniques and what not..I really liked Jeffrey Gitomers Little Red bookof selling.
    BTW This is off topic but I love your hair in the first two pics...its fucking rad and I've tried to get my hair to stick up like that and it refuses..prolly cause i haven't a clue how to do it...How do you do it?..it's such wicked little rockabilly look...
    Emiliana



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    RetiredDancer is right. Looks are actually quite unimportant in this business. I know tons of "10"s who can't make $100 a night and know a lot of "6"s making $800 a night. It all boils down to your self confidence level and your ability to sell. Period.

    Now, as for your heels, you'll have to ask your club management about this. Many clubs will have some understanding for women who are a bit taller. I can't say this is true everywhere though. About six months ago, we had a dancer come through our class who was 6"1". Tall and thin. Her club had a minimum 6" height rule and they wouldn't budge on it. One of those genius managers with a "if we bend the rule for you, then we have to bend the rule for everyone" kind of idiots. So she was 6'7" in heels and she did fine.

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    thank you all so much -- this site & all of you on it are so extremely helpful i dont know what id do without all of this! thankyouthankyouthankyou<3

    emiliana -- hairspray is the key!! take a handful of the hair upfront at the edge of your hairline, use some root lifting spray, & blow dry it while holding it straight up. when you let it down it will have lots standing-power of its own so figure out a way to shape it & secure it with some bobby pins & hairspray it lots when youre done! you can even tease it a bit before hand to make it even "fluffier" or whatever you wanna call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaven777
    You are super hot and plenty of men want the amazon looking chica, I'm new to the business. And I already know that you can't please ALL the men ALL the time. But the ones who like you...make it worth it. I say GO FOR IT!!!

    men love amazon chics!!!! u are hot.........you will do jus fine

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    thank youuuuu <333

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    Don't worry,you'll be great!I'm almost your height ,wear 6 or 7" shoes,no shorter.You are very pretty and from your post I can say you have a fun outgoing personality.

    Good luck!

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