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    Default Do VIP hosts make more than dancers?

    I was looking at this thread:

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...5&page=1&pp=15

    and wondered wtf a VIP host makes. It seems like the mandatory 20% to the VIP really rips off the dancer, as in at the end of the night, the VIP host has more money than the uppper earners.

    I believe that DANCERS should make more than every worker in the club. I auditioned for a club where waitresses made more than the dancers. I couldn't live with that.

    Stories, anyone?
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    The VIP host is making much more than the girls at my club. Girls tip him $40 per hour they are in the VIP room if he 'set them up' with the customer. He def makes over $1000 every night. Sometimes girls have a $1500 night and hand him $400, etc. So it can be a lot.

    I hate him for various personal reasons, so I have not tipped him in over 8 months. Not one cent. My club will not fire me for this, they like me too much. But I know that he would never have my back if some shit happened to me in the club, ie. one time a guy looked like he was going to punch me, I had this terrified look on my face, and the bouncer saw this and turned around to face the other way. Fortunately the angry customer just left.

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    Default Re: Do VIP hosts make more than dancers?

    Quote Originally Posted by kansas dancer
    The VIP host is making much more than the girls at my club. Girls tip him $40 per hour they are in the VIP room if he 'set them up' with the customer. He def makes over $1000 every night. Sometimes girls have a $1500 night and hand him $400, etc. So it can be a lot.

    I hate him for various personal reasons, so I have not tipped him in over 8 months. Not one cent. My club will not fire me for this, they like me too much. But I know that he would never have my back if some shit happened to me in the club, ie. one time a guy looked like he was going to punch me, I had this terrified look on my face, and the bouncer saw this and turned around to face the other way. Fortunately the angry customer just left.
    It doesn't sound like a happy working environment. Clubs shouldn't be set up this way.

    EDIT: He would've let someone punch you? That's plain low. Whether you tip him or not, you are a human being.
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    If that customer punched me and the bouncer just turned away, another man letting a man hit a woman, I would walk right over to the bouncer and kick him as hard as I could in the nuts. Luckily I've never been in even near anything like this, but oh boy, don't mess with a motherfucking ukrainian temper.

    The nerve of that shumuck! I hear that the VIP hosts in the upscale NYC and Vegas clubs make a huge killing.

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    Yeah even over here in Oz where we dont even have tip outs or stuff, sometimes the bar staff and VIP hostess make more $$$ then we the dancers do. Especially when compared to those girls who dont make very much on average. I once heard of a waitress making over $1000 in one night off VIP tips. This is ridiculous when most girls find it difficult to make anywhere near that amount in my club. Shit me. However i have to remind myself a waitress will not always get this lucky and i will be more likely to make $1000 on more nights then she will...

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    In NYC, the pimps, er, I mean hosts DO make a lot, often more than many dancers. And you can make a lot dancing in NYC.

    At certain upscale Manhattan clubs, it's not uncommon for a high-roller to tip the host $500, $1K or more to find the "right" kind of dancer. Now I'm not saying this kind of thing happens at my club (but then again, it might...), but I've seen hosts make $3K-5K in a night, and not that rarely either.

    I saw the same thing happen when I worked in Vegas, but not quite to the same proportions.
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    When I worked at Showgirls in SF my girlfriend and I alone each tipped VIP host $150 so right there is $300... and there were about 30 girls working... with a $100 avg tip (some tip up to $400+) he just walked with $3000 for walking girls into Champagne... the host doesnt even set us up with custys.. we pay that just for him taking our custys $$ and letting us use the room...

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    Yeah, one day in Vegas one host hooked me up with a money group. Between my tip and the 3 guys, the host made at least $500 at 3pm on a Thurs. afternoon to seat them in a private room and get a waitress to bring drinks, and leave us alone.

    Also, I gave Wolf at Hustler Baltimore like $50 for getting me a VIP that was $400 or so to me. Too high?


    All of the other VIP guys anywhere else I've worked, I made my customer tip 20-40, since I reeled the guys in myself and host did nothing.

    Although I do miss not having that time allotted pay basis here in Texas, I don't miss the extortion. But you can make SO much more than with $20 a dance.

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    Preach on sisters. I hardly ever tip them, they never hook me up. I always find my own
    customers. Its so fucked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh
    When I worked at Showgirls in SF my girlfriend and I alone each tipped VIP host $150 so right there is $300... and there were about 30 girls working... with a $100 avg tip (some tip up to $400+) he just walked with $3000 for walking girls into Champagne... the host doesnt even set us up with custys.. we pay that just for him taking our custys $$ and letting us use the room...
    Thats an awsome tip out for the host Audrey,im sure he has sent you business your way and you might not know it.
    If you dont think he has,fuck him,he doesnt deserve to be treated that well by you if he isnt working FOR you.

    Now in turn,if he does set you up,doesnt that make him the "Pimp"like others have described??

    If he sets up only the girls who tip him as well as you and not the minimum tippers,that opens him up to more of a shit storm.

    Just tossing this up on the forum because i have done that job before and trust me,many earn every dollar they get plus more!

    Heres my observation on the money breakdown and who makes the most in general.Not all clubs are like this,but enough of them i have seen and worked in are so i will try to give an accurate take on it.

    Who makes the most money in the club nightly....

    1.owner(zillions)
    2.top entertainer/s(1-3000)
    3.DJ(500-1500)
    4.VIP host(300-700)
    5.top waitstaff(200-500)
    6.house dancers(300-500)
    7.managers(LOLOLOLOL)
    8.doorguys/ floor staff(50-150)

    Some top clubs reverse a few,but for the most part,this is about an average i have seen and I think 1-6 deserve every dime.
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    Default Re: Do VIP hosts make more than dancers?

    I think it should go this way.

    1. owner
    2. top entertainers
    3-4. DJ and middle entertainers
    5. good managers
    6. good VIP hosts
    7. top waitstaff
    8. good door and floor hosts

    The bottom earners make nothing so there is no place for them on the list.
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    Everyone should make money. At a "perfect" club, everyone would work together to bring in the most customers. Bringing in more customers would up everyone's earnings. However, when everyone is holding their hands out to the dancers...and walking away at the end of the night than some of the top earners...there's a problem.

    Tipping out good "help" should be a no-brainer...but I do not think that someone who does not "help" me make money in any way, shape, or form (aside from giving me and my customer a place to sit in CL) deserves 20% of my earnings.

    Greedy people will always make a business go down the tubes...which is exactly what I'm seeing happen with my club.

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    Heh, moments like these I'm much more fond of my club - waitresses run the private rooms. There are no extra people to tip, and usually the customers do so - though I think it is kinda of snotty when a guy orders drinks that would've cost him $10-$20 on the floor and he tips $0 just because they're free drinks. OR at another club I worked, he is required to buy drinks, so doesn't feel the need to tip the waitress. Jerkfaces. Sometimes the waitresses bank, but I don't think they do very often. I glanced at her tip-sheet, only four entertainers sold a room during the dayshift, out of them only 2 tipped, both of which amounted to under $50. Now, she gets tips from servings drinks in the rest of the room, but seeing how most of the guys grudgingly tip a dollar, I doubt she makes /that/ much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrescentLuna
    Heh, moments like these I'm much more fond of my club - waitresses run the private rooms. There are no extra people to tip, and usually the customers do so - though I think it is kinda of snotty when a guy orders drinks that would've cost him $10-$20 on the floor and he tips $0 just because they're free drinks. OR at another club I worked, he is required to buy drinks, so doesn't feel the need to tip the waitress. Jerkfaces. Sometimes the waitresses bank, but I don't think they do very often. I glanced at her tip-sheet, only four entertainers sold a room during the dayshift, out of them only 2 tipped, both of which amounted to under $50. Now, she gets tips from servings drinks in the rest of the room, but seeing how most of the guys grudgingly tip a dollar, I doubt she makes /that/ much.
    Man!!!!
    I have seen some waitresses in my time that have BANKED!!!!!!

    Making more then even some of the mid level house dancers nightly!
    (even more then me sometimes,and i thought that somewhat unfair )

    If its an attractive and outgoing girl(or one or the other),they have the advantage over alot of the girls in the room,they can establish somewhat of a relationship with a customer,repore<sp>even.
    Where alot of entertainers spend 10-20 mins with them,before moving on,the waitress usually spends the whole club visit.
    And most regs i have met(not all)always come in to see one entertainer AND will sit in a certain waitresses section just to hear thier name called.
    MOST times(from what i have seen from my perch)the customer knows the name of his fav waitress before he has even picked out a fav entertainer.
    And when they swap fav's(for whatever reason),they KEEP the same waitress.
    I think the clinical term is the "Cheer's NORM"complex.

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    Yea
    A good waitress can freekin bank!!!

    Seen many that should have stayed waitresses instead of mounting the stage,they were freekin good at it.
    But once you cross that line in a club.....
    alas,
    You cant come back.

    Either way,alot of times,your support staff rocks ladies.

    Gimmie "Cowboy ugly"at the bar , Hooters serving the beer to the tables,and 15 hot entertainers......

    We all got to count our money AFTER closing time cause thats the only time we got to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh
    When I worked at Showgirls in SF my girlfriend and I alone each tipped VIP host $150 so right there is $300... and there were about 30 girls working... with a $100 avg tip (some tip up to $400+) he just walked with $3000 for walking girls into Champagne... the host doesnt even set us up with custys.. we pay that just for him taking our custys $$ and letting us use the room...
    LMAO sounds like that guy Eric, I think that's him. He's got a sweet job.

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