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    Default DJ House fee/tip out pro's or con's Your take on it ladies??

    Its not a new thing by far,but im seeing more and more clubs across the country that are going to this.

    DJ Tip out.

    In one club,my tip out is 100 on a night where the dancers total tip out is 65(not including dj tip out lol)
    I have paid as much as 300 and i know guys that pay as much as 500 on some nights to dj in top clubs.

    I like it for many reasons.

    I think it weeds out the lazy dj and forces guys to come in and work for the money.

    I also think it means the girls will actually have to start paying 10% as the industry standard,and ways of tracking that will be developed.

    Girls dont have to worry about surviving a shitty dj,they cant afford to work there.

    I do see the potential for bad though.
    On a night where the dj is working 10 girls on rotation and its slow.The girls all tip out the 5-10 dollar minimum and the dj either owes the club money for working that night,or he breaks even and worked for free that night.
    This tends to make a dj find other ways of making money,like selling drugs or selling dancers,running scams on dancers and customers,etc.

    Just like a dancer working under a tip out thats hard to hit every night,a dj will break rules to make ends meet.(not all dj's or dancers)
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    So what do ya think??
    DJ tipout fair??
    good idea,bad idea??
    does your club have it?
    do you think your club should have it??

    Your take on it?

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    Default Re: DJ House fee/tip out pro's or con's Your take on it ladies??

    Thing about this is that the sucky DJ's get tipped anyway. In my club we have mandatory DJ tip out. Of course I will happily tip a large amount to a DJ that works with me. Plus I understand the concept of making money.


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    Default Re: DJ House fee/tip out pro's or con's Your take on it ladies??

    You are such a corporate lackey. "I like it, it weeds out the bad DJs." Whatever. I have seen plenty of bad DJs make good money before. This is just another way for the club to take money from its employees. I don't see why you would feel the need to tell yourself otherwise. And, of course, it falls on the heads of the dancers, because we're your source of income--this is just another hand digging deeper into our pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow
    Thing about this is that the sucky DJ's get tipped anyway. In my club we have mandatory DJ tip out.
    In alot of clubs with 10 dancers,if they tip the 5-10 dollar minimum the dj makes 50-100 dollars.If his tip out is 100,he either owes the club or worked for free.

    Im ok with this only because the dj will have to work to get 10 girls to tip him more then just the minimum.

    Girls dont get gurantees and start the night off in the "Hole"(owed house fee's)
    Why shouldnt the dj be held to the same standards??

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    I will NEVER pay out 10% to my DJ unless I've made $200 and he's had some hand in helping make that pittance versus going home empty handed. ALTHOUGH, my wonderful DJs wouldn't ever accept that much money from me knowing I've earned terribly that day.

    THE DJ should be paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    You are such a corporate lackey. "I like it, it weeds out the bad DJs." Whatever. I have seen plenty of bad DJs make good money before. This is just another way for the club to take money from its employees. I don't see why you would feel the need to tell yourself otherwise. And, of course, it falls on the heads of the dancers, because we're your source of income--this is just another hand digging deeper into our pockets.
    i dunno about corp lackey,but i will admit to being a bitch for money.
    Im all for whatever makes the club money,cause that makes the girls money,and at the end of that,I make money.

    Yea the girls might have to pay the actual industry standard of 10%,but in the end,the dancers will get better dj's working for them.

    As in alot of things,you get what you pay for.
    If someone has a manditory minimum to pay,and pays just that,the service they get usually starts at the minimum also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine

    THE DJ should be paid.
    ???????
    Im ok anytime someone says me,or my kind should be paid,but..

    Most clubs dont pay thier entertainers,the entertainers pay to be there.
    Why should it be different for the dj's???

    If clubs paid the entertainers to be there,do you think it would slow the hustle of the industry and create alot of lazy dancers??(I do)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    i dunno about corp lackey,but i will admit to being a bitch for money.
    Im all for whatever makes the club money,cause that makes the girls money,and at the end of that,I make money.

    Yea the girls might have to pay the actual industry standard of 10%,but in the end,the dancers will get better dj's working for them.

    As in alot of things,you get what you pay for.
    If someone has a manditory minimum to pay,and pays just that,the service they get usually starts at the minimum also.

    Here you mentioned "service"
    My gripe is the DJ's that automatically expect you to tip them because well, they are the DJ.. it's like strippers that beg for tips, One of my pet peeves.

    Indeed, you do get what you pay for and I like my custies expect to get the best bang for my buck. No pun intended of course.
    Also, as an after though, the DJ gets a check.. something we don't get. In fact thats guaranteed money, something we ( the dancer/strippers) don't get as well. At least at my club they get a check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow

    Also, as an after though, the DJ gets a check.. something we don't get. In fact thats guaranteed money, something we ( the dancer/strippers) don't get as well. At least at my club they get a check.

    Miss R
    I have not gotten a check in 10 years or more,and i dont get one now.
    Im a sub contractor just like the entertainers,i even fill out the same tax forms.

    Its the guys who are getting a check now,and tipout from the girls on top of that,that i think will get hit the hardest by dj house fee's.
    Now these guys will have to pay to be there,and have to work for more then just the minimum from each girl.
    They have to come in with thier A game and pay attention to ALL the girls equally.
    Im not saying that alot of these guys dont already bring the game nightly,im just saying that it will weed out the guys who dont.

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    Default Re: DJ House fee/tip out pro's or con's Your take on it ladies??

    Im kinda surprised actually,I thought the dancers would be all for it??

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    Default Re: DJ House fee/tip out pro's or con's Your take on it ladies??

    I've never heard of a DJ having to tip the house out too. Basically that sucks, that must be an up north thing, as the DJ's here make bank and then bitch when I don't make what I'd like and don't tip them the usual amount when I do well.

    I've seen DJ's walk out of the club on a good night with well over three hundred dollars, to some that might be a pittance but here thats good money.

    Miss R.

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    This is retarded. Personally I think the reason the business is going downhill is because people in the industry are, by and large, stupid and couldn't cut it in any job or environment where anyone actually pays attention to what they are doing. That is illegal. It is ridiculously illegal to demand that dancers foot the bill for the other employees in the club. A tip is one thing. Using us to pay their salary is quite another. I would never pay a DJ 10% of my earnings. NEVER. EVER. There is NO WAY the DJ has worked that hard for me. Like, even if I work a full shift (which I haven't done in a while) I am on stage maybe 3 times a night. How does that amount to $50.00? Or even $30.00? Strip clubs are continually trying to offload their operating costs onto us, and now they want to do it to their DJs too? Yeah, that's a good way to keep good employees. I'm sure lots of DJ's won't be fleeing that work environment like rats from a sinking ship, and that the only ones left will not be the ones that have no better options. We would normally call them the dregs. Anyone who has ever complained about fat girls, extras girls, stupid girls, ugly girls, slow waitresses, or offensive DJs, witness the above mentality, and thank the club owners for refusing to actually pay qualified and decent employees. People who are respected in their industry don't want to work for free. This is why you have good service at North 44, and bad service at Brass Rail (and I should point out that at North 44, the waitresses still get tips. They just get paid too. Imagine?)
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    Incidentally, I have had DJ's tell me my money was no good to them, when I'd had a bad night. They don't hate me because I tip them reasonably.
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    I don't even know how most DJ's have managed to get their jobs, nor do I know if my DJ's get paid. They are hardly a passing thought to me. I love them to death but I could put the song I need on myself through Winamp or a CD player, and get onstage. I've done it for years bellydancing, it isn't very hard......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow
    I've never heard of a DJ having to tip the house out too.
    yup,its becomming common,and not just north,its like this in Fl,VA,AK,NYNY,etc.and i might point out,the house fee is larger then the entertainers,yet the entertainers have a larger pool to draw from.

    as the DJ's here make bank and then bitch when I don't make what I'd like and don't tip them the usual amount when I do well.

    I've seen DJ's walk out of the club on a good night with well over three hundred dollars, to some that might be a pittance but here thats good money.

    Miss R.
    Around here,1000 is the mark for a good night for a dj,thats why the 100-300 house fee isnt a problem and the dj's are not bitching about it.
    30-40 girls tipping 20-50 bucks each adds up.
    Im not saying everyone does that,or if everyone deserves that,im saying sc dj's get freekin paid,usually,over time,they average more consistantly then MOST entertainers,even the alot of the clubs top earners.
    Im not saying if thats fair or not,im saying its a golden job.

    I think dj's should pay for the right to work there,just like a dancers does.

    Alot of times,if an entertainer cant make the house fee,chances are,she shouldnt be there.
    Why not say the same thing for dj's??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM

    Alot of times,if an entertainer cant make the house fee,chances are,she shouldnt be there.
    Why not say the same thing for dj's??
    Okay, I understand that you are a DJ and that you are in the business as well.. this last comment to me was just uncalled for. She should not be there? I have never not at least made my tip out, but for whatever reason or another I have seen girls that have not.

    It happens. For you to make a comment is well, simply put offensive. I am not a DJ.. but an entertainer and You are a DJ. Not an entertainer or whichever label you would prefer to call it.

    I will never, ever, tip out or pay a DJ a certain percentage of my earnings.

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    i dont know bgmm. i have danced in fl for over 10 years and i dont know any dj's that pay to work. on the contrary a few i know do get a shift pay. at one club they got a shift pay untill a few years back but they dont pay to work there.

    as far as the 10%. i tip between 20 and 40 EVERY night. somtimes if i do VERY well i'll tip 50. i have tipped up to 60 to my fav. however. if i make i grand i WILL NOT tip 100. if a dj turns his nose up at 50 bucks screw him he should be happy with that.
    also to add i never go on stage so this is all for the privledge of him skipping me. he does no work for me whatsoever

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    I come from stripper hell. If you didn't tip at least $20, no matter how bad a night you had, the next time you were on stage it was, "Here's Candace, she's gross, but give her a sympathy dollar." The thing is, they work too, not that I condone the stripper hell club. They can say little things to make you look really good, or say small things to make you ignored. Yes, we grind cock for a living, and sometimes it's up there with cleaning toilets. But they talk for 8 hours, take shit off of bitchy dancers, get bitched at by the boss, have drunk customers bothering them too, etc. Neither of our jobs are easy. Bottom line? You take care of people to get taken care of. You spend money to make money. I can get away with murder in my club. Why? I tip them the same consistently. If I don't make money it doesn't mean they weren't doing their job. If they're demanding money for nothing, that's when I say give them minimum. If they're nice to you, go the extra mile to take care of them. They'll return the favor anytime you need it.

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    Whatever...$5-10 to the DJ, occasionally $20. No more, no less. No matter how much money I make (with the exception of a DJ getting convincing a customer to let me dance for them and then maybe I'd tip $50 IF I make over $500). Percentages are bullsh*t. I can't believe DJs are getting more than $150 - that's $18.75/hr! - a night as it is considering most don't remember what music you dance to so they interrupt your table dancing thus breaking your flow and sit on their perches yakking and drinking all night doing a helluva lot of nothing. Then again, maybe I've just run into some lazy DJs who don't do squat but search for a song, put it in the computer, and call out a dancer's name, yet have the "noive" to sit on a barstool pimpstyle with their hands out for tips at the end of the night.

    Personally, I think $10/hr + VOLUNTARY tips with is reasonable. I also don't think DJs should be forced to tip out. Put 'em on the club's payroll and get 'em out of the dancers' pockets. Housemoms too (although I did meet a housemom that I could definitely justify tipping $20 to and that's exactly how much she'll get from me when I work).

    Of course, I'm speaking for clubs with no more than 40-50 dancers per night. I have no idea what DJs do in bigger clubs so take my opinion for the $0.02 it's worth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    It is ridiculously illegal to demand that dancers foot the bill for the other employees in the club. A tip is one thing. Using us to pay their salary is quite another.
    Agreed. Sounds pimpish to me...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow
    Okay, I understand that you are a DJ and that you are in the business as well.. this last comment to me was just uncalled for. She should not be there? I have never not at least made my tip out, but for whatever reason or another I have seen girls that have not.

    It happens. For you to make a comment is well, simply put offensive. I am not a DJ.. but an entertainer and You are a DJ. Not an entertainer or whichever label you would prefer to call it.
    whoa whoa whoa!!!!!!
    Not sure where that came from????
    I didnt mean to offend,and im not even closely aiming anything at you.
    Im talking dancers industry wide,not you personally.
    I have been a dancer as well as a dj(only i didnt do it as well as i dj,so i stopped,more money in the booth in my case)

    What im saying is that if a girl consistantly cant hit the house fee,and the other girls are,then she might not be in the right house for her game or hustle.
    If a dj cant consistantly hit his house fee,im sure there is a reason also,and maybe thats not where he should be,or he needs to learn how to work better with his entertainers.

    None of that is ment to offend you or any other member of the Thong brigade.
    I will never, ever, tip out or pay a DJ a certain percentage of my earnings.

    Miss R.
    Well,it depends on what part of the country your in.
    Many places just tip 5-10 as a min,some more.
    Alot of places are on a percentage to the dj,for most its a standard 10%.,some more,some less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet
    as far as the 10%. i tip between 20 and 40 EVERY night. somtimes if i do VERY well i'll tip 50. i have tipped up to 60 to my fav. however. if i make i grand i WILL NOT tip 100. if a dj turns his nose up at 50 bucks screw him he should be happy with that.
    also to add i never go on stage so this is all for the privledge of him skipping me. he does no work for me whatsoever
    I dont know too many dj's that would balk at a 50 dollar tip,i know i dont,ask.
    Most dj's I know balk at the girl who makes 1000 and tips the 5-10 dollar min,not the girl who tips 50 bucks after making 1000.(im not saying your either form of entertainer)

    But thats not what this thread is about,and its not about how much entertainers tip or not,its about dj's tipping out via house fee's just like the girls.

    I think its a good thing,I think it will eliminate alot of the guys who are not providing the service to the girls.Slackers wont be able to afford to work.

    I see it as a good thing for entertainers as a whole as it may or may not improve the quality of the dj's and the show,of which you are a part of.

    I was just looking for dancers take on it and im lost in your response,are you for it or against it,and why??

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    hmm... interesting.

    Most of the dj's down here that I've worked for make some sort of shift pay (albeit, small) but do not pay a house fee like the dancers.

    I agree that it would certainly weed out the dj's who are lazy and dont do their part to get the energy up in their clubs. There is nothing worse, to me, than having to tip out a lazy dj who didnt promote me once on stage, just introduced me and played my three songs. However, those who encourage guys to tip get repayed generously by me. If anything, it just makes a girl feel good when she's on stage and the dj is talking her up, in comparison to the one who completely ignores her and isnt even the dj booth during her set.

    As far as tipouts- it depends on my night. A poor night usually constitutes $20 tip and a good one can go up to $80-$100. I don't really follow the 10%, but I use it as a guide. The fact is that tipping the dj 10% plus paying house, doormen, managers, bartenders, hostesses, housemoms and parking lot guys - it adds up. We're all there to make money, but I also remember to put #1 first.

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    I think it sucks for basically the same reasons it sucks that dancers have to pay. And not only does this suck for DJs, it sucks for dancers too, because this type of crap causes many DJs to get more aggressive in their tactics for getting money out of dancers, which takes a bigger bite out of our incomes, which causes us to get more aggressive in trying to get money out of customers, which is not good for business... Seems to me some clubowners are realizing more and more the effects of flooding every single market with clubs to the point it's spread the customer base too thin, and they're trying to make up for it by charging everyone to work

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    Default Re: DJ House fee/tip out pro's or con's Your take on it ladies??

    I have no problem with tipping the dj, he's working too. I think $5-10 from each girl is enough though. Half the time they are making more many than we are, and we're the ones who have to take our clothes off! I usually don't do the 10% thing at my current club because our dj plays the same music every night that I work, every week. Sometimes in the same order! If I make $400 why should I pay him 40 bucks to do what he was going to do anyway?

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