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    won't look at my atf's verticle smile?

    I'm assumeing that it's something she can't stand it becuase she has started going to extreme lengths to force me too.

    any idea as too why it bothers her so much?

    I'm going to ask about it next time I go, but I'd like to not hafta fly blind so to speak.

    so if i posted this in the wrong spot

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    She actually wants you to look at her vagina???She's going out of her way so you can look at it???That is odd.
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    i know doesn't make sense to me either.

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    That's the last thing I want any guy to look at on me,reguardless if I'm working or not.Maybe she doesn't feel attractive unless men are looking at her that way.That girl sounds weird.
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    Maybe it's just the fact that you won't, and everyone else does. She probably thinks YOU'RE weird for NOT wanting to see it. It's strange, but sometimes girls can't deal with a guy NOT ogling them.

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    No, but then again, I prefer topless clubs. I want to get friendly with the dancer, but not that friendly--not ITC anyway.

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    Ummm, if there is a pussy near my face, I'm going to look at it! You're playing some stupid game with your atf. You're a man, and you will want to look. Most ppl will look at something like that, its no big deal. You're just annoying her and trying to play some kind of "white knight" game. Trust me, she isn't going to respect you more for not looking, she's just going to get fed up with you quicker and drop you for someone less needy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    You're a man, and you will want to look.
    That's a bit of an overgeneralisation, it's just not that attractive to some guys. I'm not going to go out of my way to avoid it, but it's not like I particularly want to look at it. Different strokes.

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    To me it's just another step towards her becomeing nothing more than a object to me. i don't want that. i doubt any dancer wants to be treated as nothing more than a dogs favorite chew toy.

    the short time she has been my atf. i've seen her as a person and not just a nice rack and a nice ass. she is a real person with feelings and emotions. I feel that just because it's a SC and certain ethics go out the window. doesn't gimme the right to treat the girls there as nothing more the money hungry lap dance machines.

    also i can't just flip a switch and turn that objectification on and off. If i start treating her like that ..all women will follow suit and i'll be no different than the general male populas.

    that's why i don't stare at it. i'm not after the holy grail of the SCJ. I have enough trouble finding a woman in real life. theirs absolutely no chance in hell that i'll ever get a stripper for OTC relationship. i've accepted it and am willing to continue going to see her. what little she is willing to share is worth it in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gendai73
    also i can't just flip a switch and turn that objectification on and off. If i start treating her like that ..all women will follow suit and i'll be no different than the general male populas.
    Whatever dude. Your attitude is just as insulting as the guys who do look at as us a "dog's chew toy." We are well aware that we are objectified in this job. In your mind, you are a white knight, but you aren't going to gain any respect from this woman by trying to deny that you are a man.

    Its just a body part, its a part of us, its natural, beautiful, and its not demeaning. It would offend me that a trusted regular would not look at my breasts (topless dancer) because I would be under the impression that he found nudity dirty and wrong, yet was still going to the club despite his shame.

    Its NOT disrespectful to appreciate nudity and a woman's body, why can't certain ppl get it through their heads? This kind of attitude is nothing more than another type of misogyny, you just think you are "better than the other men" but you are just as bad.

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    If you know that you will never have a relationship with her OTC, then why bother acting, as it has been put, as the "White Knight".

    This is a FANTASY...a chance to see things from a perspective you have never seen before, and probably will never see again.

    I say can the "Holier than Thou" act and join the rest of us "Tortured Souls".

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    If the dude's fantasy is to be her "White Knight" or to be looked at as the guy who really respects her etc. then let him.. He's paying for fantasy interaction and if the dancer is o.k. w/ it , then who is it hurting.

    Gendai, next time it comes up, just tell her you don't want to view her in that manner.. unless she's a newbie she's heard some version of it before, and her ego shouldn't be crushed. If she can't deal w/ it, find another dancer.
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    Thx for the replies. i needed a different perspective on it.

    the only answers i could come up with it on my own where.

    1) makes her feel unattractive.

    2) she beleives i deserve it because i've paid to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Ummm, if there is a pussy near my face, I'm going to look at it!
    Probably, so would I. But it's not exactly all that high on my list.


    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    You're a man, and you will want to look. Most ppl will look at something like that, its no big deal.
    Agreed, but I still prefer other stuff to it. I'm not exactly gonna be slamming my eyes shut, but to be honest i don't care one way or another about it. Plenty of other stuff i like more.

    Quote Originally Posted by kymchoon
    That's a bit of an overgeneralisation, it's just not that attractive to some guys. I'm not going to go out of my way to avoid it, but it's not like I particularly want to look at it. Different strokes.
    That's pretty much where i stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Whatever dude. Your attitude is just as insulting as the guys who do look at as us a "dog's chew toy." We are well aware that we are objectified in this job. In your mind, you are a white knight, but you aren't going to gain any respect from this woman by trying to deny that you are a man.
    I'll give you that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Its just a body part, its a part of us, its natural, beautiful, and its not demeaning.
    Again, true. But only under certain circumstances. I don't really want one of those things three inches away from my face unless it's under very specific circumstances (That i'm sure we can all agree doesn't include stage-work, where it's happened the most).

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    It would offend me that a trusted regular would not look at my breasts (topless dancer) because I would be under the impression that he found nudity dirty and wrong, yet was still going to the club despite his shame.
    NOW you're speaking my language! I can be accused of doing many things, but not looking at a woman's breasts isn't one of them.

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    Well, just tell her that you don't want to look at it and that's because that's not the only reason you choose to spend time with her. Believe me, you're not alone. We get custies sometimes asking us to dance fully clothed, to not stick our pussies in their faces or to just stare at them. I don't take offense to any of these things, as long as I'm being compensated for my time.
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    I have to agree with Malibu's point. I've had my share of guys who wanted me to dance with all my clothes on, saying something to the effect of leaving more to the imagination. Sex is mental and guys are visually stimulated - some are stimulated by different visions.

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    i asked her about it. after cutting thru the SS i fould that she beleives i was trying to make things to personal.

    After i explained that i don't wanna treat her as a sex object. not because she's wouldn't be ok with it. but because that would be a slipery slop to start down. and soon all women will be sex objects.

    i think she understands me a little better now.

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