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    I've been having this problem lately at work where I will go on the floor as normal and talk with guys and depending on the guy's general steering of the conversation will either keep things light and flirty or a little bit more serious where they can see that I have a brain but I "know" I'm there for money and it doesnt matter whether I need the money or not, I will eventually have to close the sale right? Sometimes I will be flirting with them the whole time trying to get the dance straight away and sometimes we'll do the "getting to know you" bit....So, I go in for the witty little closing or even just go, "Hey, there's a special, let's go do it, yea?" or some variation.."Hey, there's a special, wanna do it? " and they go..."Wow, you're such a good saleswoman" as if I'm the only girl in there trying to sell dances....but will find some way to get out of it and decline, but still expecting me to stay and chat with them...And this is a club where previously I did very well.

    I'm also not making much money on stage anymore...not like this is a huge stage tipping crowd, but it is sort of irking me that people will tell me AFTER I'm done..."Wow, that was so good. You look great up there" and I will keep the smiling face, thank them, yet still not tip, either then or when I go up for another set. I keep my appearance up, always have hair, nails, outfit looking nice, try to give a good show, like having a good conversation. Initially I figured if money was not going to come from stage, I can at least have fun up there even when Im not making money yet I'll see someone do absolutely nothing and yet get tons of money thrown at her...I've been at the club for 5 months, so it's not like I'm the new girl..club's only been open since September. But now the slow money has sort of trickled to lapdance earnings as well and that is bugging me like crazy. I hightailed it out of there after making $1 in 5 hrs. I don't know if this is just a really bad few weeks or what...it has been slow other times, yet people didn't feel the need to talk about my "sales" pitch. (?!?!?)Am I the only professional one there? Do I seem too corporate? Do I intimidate them in some way?

    I am not quite sure what is going on..I will normally think that I can pick up on the vibe of someone but I seem to be soo off. At my club a lot of the time I'll give a guy a sincere compliment and he will say, "Yeah, right...All strippers say that"...or things as if they've "caught on to the game" yet I will actually be telling the truth. *Sigh*..And this isn't exactly a high volume club where I could just cut my losses and flit about to another guy...sometimes that extra minute you could've spent would've made the difference and sometimes they already would've told you no (or yes) and meant it had you just done a "D'wanna dance?".

    Does this mean I should leave my club and try somewhere else? I have no strings tying me to SoCal other than my lease, but sometimes people will tell me...oh, it's just slow today or the guys are just being weird today, wait until later...but when you've been working from 4 or 5pm that day and theres only a handful of customers, you may or may not have made even $100 and youve got nothing but rejection all day, it makes it very tough to want to "wait it out" and see what happens between 10 and 12 or 12 and 2 when sometimes the girls outnumber the guys and even if a bunch of guys came in your odds of walking with $3+ are much lower. It is worrying me that things have been like this lately without me really knowing why. We've passed the tax season. I haven't gained any weight or had any drastic appearance change since I started. It is hard to get used to 5 solid months of making a good 1-1.5k/week to making half that...yet this IS southern California...home of the lowest earnings....Can someone give me advice on conquering a few of the issues I'm dealing with, or tell me if I really oughta just head back to AZ a week or two out of the month, where the money was much easier and less stressful to come by....?

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    Yeah, I think the fact that there are so many other dancers at the same time doesn't do anyone any good. Guys become spoilt and figure, "well if I don't get a dance from her someone else will come by" as opposed to them feelings privileged for having some of your time.

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    Default Re: "You're such a good saleswoman!"etc...

    With the circumstances at your club being what they are, where the girls seem to outnumber the customers quite a bit, you have to do something different than the rest of them are doing. I think Izabella is right here. To a customer, you are just another dancer in the club and he doesn't feel privaledged in any way that you are coming up to him. Why? Because he knows that when you leave, there will be another dancer in his lap asking for a lapdance in ten seconds.

    As a result, you need to turn up the heat on what makes you desireable to a customer as opposed to any other dancer in the club. You need to strongly emphasize your strong points in a way so that the customers are begging for you to dance for them and not the other way around. Look at truck ads for example. The bottom line with trucks is that they are all pretty much the same to one degree or another. They all have a bed that you throw stuff in, they all have powerful engines, they all are tough, they all can tow thins. So what makes the difference between a Dodge, a Chevy, a Ford or a Toyota? It's the subtle differences...My Dodge can pull more than your Ford. My ford can go faster than your Chevy. My Chevy can go over more terrain than your Toyota, etc. etc. etc.

    SO, what you need to do is turn up the desire and play down the fact that you are, in reality, selling a product in a buyers market. My suggestion, tell your DJ that you just won "Ms. Topless North Dakota 2005" or some other nonsense award. Have him announce it every time you go up on stage. Use it as a conversation piece with your customer. Explain to him that you are a dancer a dancer in high demand in this club and more importantly, SAY IT WITH CONFIDENCE! Promote yourself as being more than just another dancer in the club and when your value increases, so will your sales.

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    Thanks, Dancerwealth for your info. The problem is that there are a lot of locals that come in so sometimes saying "Oh, welcome London, Ebony Swimsuit 2005 competition winner" will look a little weird when the majority of the people in the club already have gotten to know me a bit. Also, by emphasizing how I am "better", these guys will usually steer it towards asking about mileage....not good. This is a club where it is topless on stage only, bikini dances in lap room so theyre more hesitant to believe how "good" a dance can really be. It doesnt matter that the guys who actually DO end up getting a dance end up telling me that I gave them a good dance and will usually get more than one, when I mention this to someone I havent danced with they think I'm bluffing. My success previously with this was to approach guys in a group, manage to secure a dance with one, and then he would recommend me to his friends....I seem to be good at that..but the crowds have diminshed considerably as of late and the ones that ARE there are the lifers who never get dances anyway, just come to watch tv and get a beer.
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    Default Re: "You're such a good saleswoman!"etc...

    I would change my look if I were you. Buy some outfits that are different from your usual, try diff. make-up styles.
    If you are really doing that poorly then yes, I would say leave that place. You obviously have been trying your hardest, you don't have the time to wait it out until it gets better or you get better at the hustle. If you can make more at a diff. club then make more there, you can always go back, right?
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    Default Re: "You're such a good saleswoman!"etc...

    California is a weird market to.. at the nude clubs they don't sell any sort of liquor or beer but if it's just topless they can. How bizarre.. unless things have changed in the short time that I have been away from there.

    I would suggest a different club. As suggested before , men do become spoiled with a saturated market - perhaps you do need a change in clubs and with some of your technique. I've had to do that myself. Keep us informed and good luck.

    I do hope your cash flow changes, it can get frustrating. Having been there myself. Don't give up just yet.

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    UPDATE: Because I have to go to summer school,I had to stay in California to finalize everything and drive up to my university every few days which is over 1.5 hrs away from me. I took a few days off and just sort of did my own thing, then went back to work...it has started to pick up a little bit...not to where it was before, at least not consistently, but I felt like our club is slowly trying to work out the kinks. I bought a new outfit and rocked it on stage yesterday (a Friday night, which normally I dread because I usually make more during the week) and I was able to make more than I made in I don't know how many Fridays!

    Because I'll be going to school 4 days a week 2 hrs in the opposite direction of the club, I will only be able to work Thurs-Sun whereas before it was Sun/Mon-Thurs before so maybe I will be able to be more motivated or gain a different perspective from knowing that I only have the weekends to make it work and to carry me through rent/bills/etc for the next six weeks! The clientele yesterday was a lot nicer than most weekend nights so I think the club is slowly trying to pull in a better crowd. Hopefully this really IS a changing period and not a random good night..I had been so reluctant to leave because it has been so good to me in the past and it just became so frustrating that none of my efforts seemed to be working.....we'll see how it goes these days since I'm stuck in Cali until August! However, even if I stay at my club, I do plan to travel and dance a few weeks/month once school is done.

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    Travel should help you out. A change is good - so you wont become dulled and jaded by the same old thing day in and day out.

    I am glad it is starting to look up for you. Good luck!
    Miss R.

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