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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    So democracy's dead, is it? My utter speculation is that Pryce didn't need much prompting. Ya know, I've had posts deleted, but I've never gotten an administrator's directive that I subsequently ignored, nor have I created a second account to complain after I was reprimanded. No, my only ruse is some ginormous stripper style shit which one day may lead to a sitewide whipping.
    so, who's talking about democracy. look, if pryce wants to ban him for those actions...fine. i didn't follow the drama upstairs. my only point is that despite what some people thought of his posts. **thorn was always civil**. however, despite his civility. it's seems some people really became unsettled by his posts here and i wouldn't be surprised if that type of reaction occured upstairs long before he pulled any of those stunts.

    *note*: based on his posts on SCJ before his sitewide ignore.

    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    Well, here's where we have a fundamental disagreement. I refer you to my previous post. You guys just haven't been supertrolled enough over hyere to influence your perspective.
    well, if you ladies are fainting and swooning at the sight of a first-time poster who asks, "hey strippers! how much are the blowjobs?". perhaps, you have a point. in any case, i don't think overmoderation is a major issue here on SCJ. i don't know about SW. besides, moderation is mostly a function of experience. hopefully, it gets better as time passes and they are not so quick to pull out the admin toolbox. no, what i dislike is this idea of group consensus or conformity to maintain harmony and the notion that if such a plateau isn't reached. it's seen as being "unproductive". i don't think that's necessarily the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    Lord knows Jenny and I have tried but we're just not enough of an insurgency.
    well, if it's any help. i've been constantly PMing Pryce about banning you two from SCJ from day one. i'm think i'm starting to wear him down. the day of reckoning for you two uberbiatches will come soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    i've been constantly PMing Pryce about banning you two from SCJ from day one. i'm think i'm starting to wear him down. the day of reckoning for you two uberbiatches will come soon.
    LOL, Mr P, Jenny is your reason for living, and you need Ev when you run out of Jenny quotes to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Ev, I don't believe you and Jenny were here for the Mike/Harvard/Sixfigures era of SCJ.
    No, but that doesn't surprise me now that you bring it up. I should have said "recently." And I prolly shouldn't have been quite so flippant about that, amidst a serious convo because I'm not seriously suggesting I want it to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    There's a mighty lot of artificial harmony in public on the pink site, and alot of DISharmony in private. Seems to me alot of ill will is breeding under the surface.
    Okay, where can we go from here? I realize the guys might gag at this "prudish" thought, but is there a way to resolve this issue diplomatically with a carrot rather than a stick? Might be hard if the disgruntled won't express their views publicly. Meanwhile, I suspect certain others aren't necessarily dissatisfied at the moment because, like me, they just aren't aware of the club.. urm.. forum drama. They may miss it when it transpires and aren't plugged into the shop talk after the fact.

    For totally selfish reasons, I sincerely request that you not leave. When I first found SW, I remember reading one of your posts discussing business deficiencies in the way clubs are operated, written in such clear concise terms, I thought, totally awesome, smart business women post here! The same could be said of Kat's business savvy and a few others. Knowing other dancers exist who think in sane terms sometimes gets me through the tough days. I know ya gotta do what ya gotta do, but 'twood royally suck if you left, Bridgette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    no, what i dislike is this idea of group consensus or conformity to maintain harmony and the notion that if such a plateau isn't reached. it's seen as being "unproductive". i don't think that's necessarily the case.
    Got ya. This is the crux of our disagreement. Having said that, I won't go into a round and round 'cause both sides of it seem to have been clearly expressed.
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    the day of reckoning for you two uberbiatches will come soon.
    Ohmygod, you make that sound so sexy I might actually get faint and become vulnerable to performing extras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    For totally selfish reasons, I sincerely request that you not leave. When I first found SW, I remember reading one of your posts discussing business deficiencies in the way clubs are operated, written in such clear concise terms, I thought, totally awesome, smart business women post here! The same could be said of Kat's business savvy and a few others. Knowing other dancers exist who think in sane terms sometimes gets me through the tough days. I know ya gotta do what ya gotta do, but 'twood royally suck if you left, Bridgette.
    I'll second that, and I don't often agree with her.

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    Nevermind that she was the first SW girl I ever met, Bridgette is an institution here; SW wouldn't be the same and would be worse in her absence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    my only point is that despite what some people thought of his posts. **thorn was always civil**. however, despite his civility. it's seems some people really became unsettled by his posts here
    Okay. Small point here. I did not find Thorn to be civil. Now, our definitions of civil could greatly differ. Okay, our definitions of civil CERTAINLY greatly differ, but I found Thorn to be sexist, rude, dismissive and (although this is somewhat unrelated), frankly, stupid. However, most importantly, Thorn was... not funny. We can tolerate a certain amount of misogyny, discourtesy and even stupidity, but for crying out loud, can the man not even amuse us while he is being... well, you know. Misogynist, discourteous and stupid. If one cannot even coax a chortle out of me with all the "feminist" jokes available - well, there's not much hope for you, and sitewide banning is the least of your problems. In fact, now that I think of it, Thorn is probably stuck in a small, closeted and humourless room, alone and screaming "Why? Why? Oh, gods, why did I alienate ALL of stripperweb, including its subsite, SCJ? Why is mr_punk and his unending ass-talk and immature, embarrassing avatar welcomed and loved, whilst I am shunned? Why?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    well, if you ladies are fainting and swooning at the sight of a first-time poster who asks, "hey strippers! how much are the blowjobs?". perhaps, you have a point.
    Okay, now I have never, ever actually fainted from a guy asking me for a blowjob. Except that once, and I don't think that really counts. But let's really examine our hypothetical poster. He has gone looking for stripper convo, and finds us. Fair enough. But really, the site SAYS that it isn't porno, escorts, etc., and really even for those with limited comprehension, the design, with the pink, the lack of T&A etc., would show anyone with even a smidge of web savvy that this was kind of rude questioning for this particular site. Now since our poster KNOWS it is rude (note, he is addressing the strippers, so he seems to know that it is a site FOR strippers, not really about strippers), he (I assume it is a he, what with the blowjob and all) is intending to be rude. So, really. How much do we really owe this hypothetical blowjob seeker? Why is banning/ignoring such an unfair option to someone who really only wants to be discourteous (because if he REALLY wanted to find out about blowjobs, there are many more appropriate places that are easier to find than here)?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    well, if it's any help. i've been constantly PMing Pryce about banning you two from SCJ from day one. i'm think i'm starting to wear him down. the day of reckoning for you two uberbiatches will come soon.
    But.. but... but - then you would be lonely. You know. Alone in a room. "Why, why" and all of that.
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    FBR: i'm not sure what these gimps are really talking about. The purpose of the thread by the creator was simply to call the pink siders a bunch of prudes, not to make a statement about moderation or whatever for the most part

    Bridgette: quite a few people have told me similar stories about "you go" in private but "whatever" in public.

    Obviously the reason is simple: The pink siders have been replaced by porn by their boyfriends and they are taking it out on each other.
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    ^^^
    Yeah, but really. Think about it. How would it look to you if there was a pink thread entitled: "Why do those bluies have to even EXIST on the internet (although we don't have to see or hear them) bragging about spreading the clap and oral herpes through whole towns of exotic dancers?"

    It would seem kind of bad spirited? Bitter? And pointless? And maybe like they were trying to bolster their own "interesting level" by just levying out nasty insults?
    Last edited by Jenny; 06-15-2005 at 03:59 PM. Reason: just wanted to let you know: nothing personal. I, myself, LOVE the clap. So really. Just a question.
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    I wouldn't give a fuck, i say they should do it.

    They've already had threads like that, often posted in by erotictonic and amylynnnj

    "pathetic losers" and other such monikers, etc.

    You should start one like it right now to get it going
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh0t
    Obviously the reason is simple: The pink siders have been replaced by porn by their boyfriends and they are taking it out on each other.
    That is so on point. I hear that complaint at least once a week from young dancers. I'd estimate that maybe 34 really hot video teens in CA are getting off 10 million guys in the 18-29 market.

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    LMAO. See, most of the last several posts would've been deleted or at least severely edited if this thread were on the pink side. Then of course half or 2/3 would've been split off and sent to site issues, because god forbid, a conversation can't evolve to discuss more than one extremely narrow topic at once

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    That is so on point. I hear that complaint at least once a week from young dancers. I'd estimate that maybe 34 really hot video teens in CA are getting off 10 million guys in the 18-29 market.
    Whoa! I'm thinking, 10 million stranded women for me to target. Not a bad trade off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    LMAO. See, most of the last several posts would've been deleted or at least severely edited if this thread were on the pink side.
    True, but I usually adjust my posting to the context of the forum. If I look around and see most everyone driving 70 mph here, I'm going to do so, too, just to avoid being run over. If I'm over there and see most everyone driving 45, I'm asking for trouble if I stay at 70. Nevertheless, I don't disagree that 45 is a bit too restrictive, but I'd vote maybe for 55 to 60 and strict seat belt enforcement over there with 70 staying the standard over here. Now if I could just get the hang of parallel parking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh0t
    I wouldn't give a fuck, i say they should do it.
    Hehe! I felt the same sentiment - go for it and enjoy

    Then again I'd miss it if the girls did post such a thread on the pink site. I rarely read the pink site. Most of it is so boring and predictable - Yawn. If they started a thread like that on the blue site well, then bombs away. Not because I even care all that much but at least we can have some fun and a discussion that doesn't devolve into everyone having to agree with each other.

    p.s. A lot of us guys already know we can be assholes sometimes. Not really news to us. Would slide off my back. But then, its not people like shot here or myself that feel a need for censorship or heavy handed moderation.

    More seriously, to some degree as moderators you just have to say fuck it, you can't make everyone happy all the time. You can't be constantly second guessing yourself. Choose what to cut based on your own judgement. One way or another things will work out just fine in the end. If you're over cutting it won't be long before you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    But let's really examine our hypothetical poster. He has gone looking for stripper convo, and finds us. Fair enough. But really, the site SAYS that it isn't porno, escorts, etc., and really even for those with limited comprehension, the design, with the pink, the lack of T&A etc., would show anyone with even a smidge of web savvy that this was kind of rude questioning for this particular site.
    what kind of mesugha assumption is that? if SW is going to attract a certain amount of asskissing fuckoes looking for stripper interaction despite the lack of T&A, etc. why wouldn't SW also attract the antithesis of an butt-licking toady who's looking for stripper interaction as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    So, really. How much do we really owe this hypothetical blowjob seeker? Why is banning/ignoring such an unfair option to someone who really only wants to be discourteous (because if he REALLY wanted to find out about blowjobs, there are many more appropriate places that are easier to find than here)?
    oh, you don't owe him a thing. i didn't mean to imply otherwise. so, feel free to ignore or answer his question with caustic sarcasm which you seem to relish. strangely enough, after this kind of treatment. they usually disappear shortly afterwards never to be seen again. of course, like a freshly killed cockroach. eventually, a new one takes his place, but after you've seen the first one or two. you shouldn't faint and swoon at the sight of a new cockroach. finally, banning is also a viable option. although, it seems like a lot of work (not for you, of course) compared to the other two options....but hey, that's what moderators are for. they exist and live to answer and respond to your whiny PMs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    But.. but... but - then you would be lonely. You know. Alone in a room. "Why, why" and all of that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh0t
    FBR: i'm not sure what these gimps are really talking about. The purpose of the thread by the creator was simply to call the pink siders a bunch of prudes, not to make a statement about moderation or whatever for the most part
    Whatever your intentions in starting this thread, it now seems to be about three related, but somewhat different topics:

    1. Overmoderation both here and on SW.

    2. The usual pink versus blue chicanery.

    3. The purpose you mentioned above. Whatever that is.

    I just didn't want to mention it until this point for fear that the thread might get split (see#1).
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    Hell, we wouldn't know where to split the thread, even if we wanted to, and we don't. I'm enjoying it.

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    I agree with JZ...its interesting.

    I just threw out my comments thinking that you might want someone higher in the food chain to hear your concerns (assuming they were truly concerns and not just bitching for the fun of it). If venting is all you are striving for thats fine with me. Ive done plenty of that myself over the years.

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    I'm not just venting. I'm tired of the 45mph speed limit and friggin speed bumps every 1/4mile over there. Tired of having to hunt down split threads, or posts that have been deleted. Tired of trying to respond to a post, only to have half the thread/post cut out before I could hit the damn reply button so whatever I was going to say is pointless. Tired of feeling like I can't say anything too friggin normal or conversational. Ferfuckssake! I thought this place was supposed to be fun! I mean it is a damn stripper board, not a librarian board!

    One point to bring up. I realize this isn't such a big deal to administrators, but the stripperfest we had last year would NOT have happened at all if we'd been under such strict moderation then as we are now. The thread that got it all started would've been squashed before the excitement built, and the party would've never happened IMO. I think it sucks ass that sort of comraderie(sp?) has to suffer here.

    Ev, I would agree on your proposed raised speed limits to 55 or 60. I say 60. I think we can handle it. I never knew a stripper who drove like a grandma anyway!

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    OK, now I had to step in and moderate in this moderation-protest thread. I feel so dirty. Let's try to keep it over the fourth grade neener-neener level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    what kind of mesugha assumption is that? if SW is going to attract a certain amount of asskissing fuckoes looking for stripper interaction despite the lack of T&A, etc. why wouldn't SW also attract the antithesis of an butt-licking toady who's looking for stripper interaction as well?
    I didn't say a word about who stripperweb might attract. I'm pretty sure I've noticed the kind of riff raff that conglomerates around here. I said that this hypothetical poster knew his (her?) question was rude, and posted with the intention of "offending" us. And that therefore the cry of "censorship! censorship!" (however inappropriate in this context), and accusations that we are cutting off interesting, meaningful conversation are bullshit. I mean as facinating as I'm sure you find the unending parade of "I wanna git me some strippa's to suck my cock" most of us find that about as interesting as you find "so what should my new name be?"

    And just a point - interesting, meaningful and even dissenting conversation doesn't HAVE to take place in the format of:
    "This is the problem with strippers. They're ______ (e.g. sluts, whores, liars, manipulators, etc.)"
    "No, strippers aren't like that you ugly, ugly man who is so covetous of our stripper bodies"
    "See? Typical of slutty, slutty strippers, bringing up their bodies all the time."
    "Yeah? Well we have nice bodies and should be able to bring them up whenever we want!"
    Etc.
    Etc.
    That is the dissent that is deleted. The interesting, meaningful dissent is not deleted - it is usually just not responded to. Or maybe some real, super-interesting dissent WAS deleted before I got to see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    oh, you don't owe him a thing. i didn't mean to imply otherwise.
    Oh. Well. Good. Carry on then.

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    so, feel free to ignore or answer his question with caustic sarcasm which you seem to relish. but after you've seen the first one or two. you shouldn't faint and swoon at the sight of a new cockroach.
    Well we don't faint and swoon. We swoop in with name calling and caustic sarcasm and then he is deleted when he tries to respond. I think that is a great way of handling things. Go Moderators!

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    but hey, that's what moderators are for. they exist and live to answer and respond to your whiny PMs.
    Hey! My PM's (if I sent any) would be pithy and clever.
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    But Jaaaaaaaayyy! He started it!

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    Bridgette, I have a confession.
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    Um, ok....

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