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    I went to one of those Girls Gone Wild on tour things a while back. The dancers were from a local strip so I wnet over afterward. I went back a few weeks later for amateur night and met a stripper I really liked. (Pros are on stage before and after amateurs.) I came back mostly as her regular, though it's not like I was exclusive.

    I came to check out male amateur night once and met another dancer I also took a liking to (at the this point, female pros worked day shift on male amateur night). She suggested I compete. I started doing so the next month and just did my third last week. I'd love to go pro, but pro opportunities for males are rather limited here plus I'm not very good.

    I do seem to have endeared myself to the staff. Last time I was there, the general manager gave me three free admission passes and put me in the VIP section free.

    My concern is that I mainly want to make friends with the dancers. This isn't to say I want to go out with them. With one exception (more on that later), I really don't. I just greatly enjoy hanging out with them and want to make their jobs as pleasant as possible. I very much want to be the ideal customer. Unfortunately, I really can't be the ideal customer as I'm far from wealthy. I make about $30K a year. I really can't drop more than $100 a trip or so. I very much don't want to be the customer they complain about in the dressing room.

    Here's what I do so far:
    Always try to be reasonably clean. I generally come straight over from work, so there's no chance to take a shower, but I work a desk job, so I'm generally still good.
    Brush my teeth. One of the other customers made fun of me for this once when I did it in the club. I think it's basic courtesy.
    Dress presentably. I see lots of guys in there in t-shirts that are dirty, sweat-stained, stretched or otherwise gross. I generally wear my business casual work clothes.
    Courtesy. This is strict observance of no touch, getting out of the way when needed, getting someone's attention by methods other than finger-snapping, etc.
    If I want to chat with someone, I try to catch her when it's not very busy so as not to cut into her income.
    If I enjoy speaking with someone, I'll buy a dance.
    If someone is on stage and no one is tipping, I'll try to get things going. I don't mind tipping fully clothed women.
    I will try to say complimentary things to all the dancers, (more than nice ass), but not take up much time unless buying.
    I especially like women who enjoy talking about themsleves including discussing their personal lives. I don't pry into their real names, other jobs, etc. I'm more interested in their motivations and feelings. If they ask me personal questions, that's also good.

    I'm in Cedar Rapids, IA. This isn't exactly a small-town, but it's far from Vegas. So while you don't see anyone dropping $10,000 (at least, not making a show of it), I see plenty of people go in the private dance area and not emerge until 4 songs later.

    Is there anything else I can do here short of making more money? Am I misunderstanding the purpose of stripclubs? Is my behavior unusual?

    My other related problem is I seem to be falling for one of the dancers. She's the one who initally got me doing male amateur night. I think she may share my affection. She doesn't strike me as a good hustler. In fact, I heard the manager saying as much to someone else. She'll come and sit with me even knowing I'm out of money, etc. An OTC friend of hers who's also a regular has told me she talks about me OTC. Even if she does like me, asking her out would put her in an awkward position, which is the last thing I want to do. I made my feelings as clear as I could without coming across as the pathetic man who comes in to hit on the strippers. I didn't come looking for a girlfriend, though I was hoping to get to know some dancers OTC and was really caught off guard when I started feeling this way. Do you have any advice here? I realize that unless Nikki reads this you don't know the people involved, which makes it difficult/impossible to judge the situation.
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    Default Re: Help me be a good customer

    Walk in, hand your $100 to the first stripper you see, then leave.

    The ideal customer is born.

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    Default Re: Help me be a good customer

    Any way to be a good customer while still getting what I want? I'm in sales and I know how it feels to have someone who would rather chat than buy. On the other hand, I've had customers where I seriously didn't mind.
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    Default Re: Help me be a good customer

    Clark,

    Here is a thread from a poster in a similar situation; just looking for tips on how to be a good custy.....

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50655

    Check out my post, it's #10 in the thread and it gives another link...."Rules for Customers"

    Otherwise just use commen sense. Be polite, be respectful, and most of all be generous! heh
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    I'm definitely getting the want-to-see-her-OTC message here MUCH stronger than the want-to-be-a-good-customer one. No that is certainly NOT unusual. Every guy who enters a strip club would love to 'see' us OTC. But yes, you are certainly misjudging the purpose of strip clubs. It's not a dating service or singles club. It's an entertainment venue, and what you pay for there is entertainment. I fully understand how the intimate nature of the entertainment can confuse guys into thinking something else, but we are only there to sell a service. If you enjoy it and want to buy it, great.

    If you frequent any establishment, you'll become known to the staff and gain a level of confidence with them, which may or may not include any real feelings other than recognition as not being an asshole. I have liked alot of my customers over the years, and thoroughly enjoyed their company IN the club. Even enough to talk about them sometimes with OTC friends. It doesn't mean I have any interest in seeing the custies OTC. I don't want to see custies OTC - it's bad for business.

    IF a stripper is really interested in seeing you OTC, for anything other than more money, she will stop selling you anything ITC. If she's still selling you dances, she's only interested in you as a customer, and that's it. The chances of a stripper wanting a customer for anything other than business: .000000001%

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    Quote Originally Posted by stant
    Walk in, hand your $100 to the first stripper you see, then leave.

    The ideal customer is born.

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    Default Re: Help me be a good customer

    is another good thread.

    you may find a few nuggets of knowledge

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    There's guys who come in a lot who don't spend a ton of cash but they'll always have a girl sitting with them if she's having a slow day. The common thing they all say is, "I really appreciate your time and I know you're here to work so if you need to run off and make some money don't let me get in your way." I always sit and chat for a minute or two with them when I'm not busy. The way I see it I gain at least one decent conversation for the day and he helps me look busier than I really am.

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    I went and saw her tonight and am now over this feeling. I apparently hadn't lost control of my feeelings as I feared. She mentioned her boyfriend to me and that cleared it up right away. It was apparently largely a reaction to going to a wedding.

    As for the rest of my post, my concern was that my desire to get to know people would make me a bad customer, but I think i have that worked out now. I found a couple dancers that enjoy sitting around talking and I don't try to rope the others into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    The chances of a stripper wanting a customer for anything other than business: .000000001%
    So you're saying there's still a chance (sorry, it just reminded me of "Dumb and Dumber").

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    To anyone who knows me who reads this: My post represents how I felt rather briefly last night. I don't usually feel like this. For the most part, I am happy to see you in the club.

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    RH. LOL!

    Yeah there's always that small chance

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    Well, there's "how to be a good customer" and "how to be a nice guy in a strip club".

    Good customers spend money and don’t waste a dancer’s time first and foremost.
    Good customers respect the fact that they alone are not spending enough cash on their fav to be her sole means of support.
    Good customers respect the dancer’s limits, shower and wear clean clothes, etc, etc, etc....

    Nice guys don't always spend money (or at least not tons of it) on the ladies but are always their to buy a drink, lend an ear, or just agree with a fav when she complains about how business sucks that day!

    Some ladies are happy to have a friendly oasis (ie: nice guy) when they've just finished wrestling with some troglodyte in the VIP room or when they've gone a whole shift without a single private dance. Some ladies could care less and just want to keep hustling. Be good to the ones who appreciate your presence and don't try to force yourself on the ones who don't. Unfortunately, the ones you like may not want to hang and the ones who drive you nuts will usually not leave you alone....

    With this in mind, don’t ever assume that being "friendly" with a dancer means that you are her "friend". Lots of money gets foolishly spent and hearts get broken when guys can't figure out the difference. There is no manual for this stuff, it's the strip club school of hard knocks.
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    Default Re: Help me be a good customer

    She has a boy friend? Bah,move on to another.Singles dancers give better shows

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    Thanks everybody. The main thing I've decided on is to try to go at slow times. This makes it easier to get attention and minimizes the chances I'm keeping them away from wealthier customers. I found two dancers who seem to like to sit and talk. I probably spend money about 50/50 on them and all the other dancers. I would certainly never try to get a dancer to talk with me by baiting her with the idea I might buy a dance. I don't think i would enjoy talking to a woman if she wans't enjoying it anyway.

    I'll also tip dancers before they start removing their clothes. Can help get things going.

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    Without going into specifics, this situation has resolved itself far better than I could have realistically hoped.

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