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    Let me begin to say that I really do like my club most of the time. But sometimes I just don't get how things work. I was so MAD Monday night I wanted to walk out the door. (It wasn't just me, there was a few of us) There was this new girl who came in to train as a waitress, next thing I know she is auditioning to dance. All that is cool. The girl is HOT!!! What bothered me is that after her audition she came and sat with like the only $$$ custy in the club that night. Really not a big deal...

    But this is where my issues started that night. There was a lot of girls sitting with this custy that night. But he wouldn't pay any of us attention because she (the new girl) had her tongue jammed down his throat. One of the managers was sitting at the table the whole time not saying a word. ROAR!!!!!

    Next thing I know she goes upstairs and put on her "stripper" shoes and little dress and comes back down and sits with him again. She is not working here, at least not yet, she only auditioned!!! WTF!!! I am trying (so is everyone else) to make $$$!!!!! Some of the girls noticed that he (the custy) had his hands up her dress... Hmmmmm, wonder what that was all about????

    The problem (besides her lack of class) was when two of the girls said something to the manager only to be told, "mind your business", "liar", and "noone is begging you to work here"

    The girls who he went off to have been there for 6 years and one for like 2 years. I really like my club, but who can you go to when the person who is supposed to protect us doesn't. I feel so intimidated by the manager I was afraid to say anything after the first two girls got shut down. Plus he went around telling people that all the girls were in an uproar because we felt threatened by her because of her looks. WRONG: there are a lot of beautiful women in my club!

    I hope they don't put that girl on the schedule... I don't want to work with someone who so blatently puts herself out there.

    I feel so frustrated... I don't know if I just need to vent... I am not sure what advice if any someone could give. I HATE BITCHES LIKE THAT!!!!

    I asked one of the bouncers if it would be okay if I came in on my days off, put on my work clothes, sat with customers, had a few drinks and made $$$$. Of course I can't do that... Why can she?????
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    If she isn't a dancer, maybe she doesn't understand what she's supposed to be doing.

    Either case, I'd be more upset at management than the dancer though. There will always be girls will to go above and beyond the call of duty, so you can't dwell on it. Even if they got rid of her, there would be another one coming through the door in no time. You should just hope that the management doesn't allow behavior that you are not comfortable with.

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    So did no one talk to the dancer about it? I mean, if she had gotten snotty, then I would've seen a reason to bitch to the manager.

    But hey for all you know, she is probably f'n the manager too lol (hope not)







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    She wasn't even working... She came into audition and just stayed. No one said anything to her because she was kinda nasty to some of the girls. I am shocked that the managment let this happen... They are always very strict about how we behave when we are working. I've gotten in trouble for getting my sholders rubbed. I don't know what happened... I felt like I was in the twilight zone.


    You're right though it wasn't really her... It is the management. There are some girls (and customers) on here that work with me and I know they would agree that where I work is pretty strict about that type of stuff going on. I guess thats why I couldn't believe how blatent it was.
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    Sorry,this aint your business.
    Protect your own spot on the rotation.

    You did what you were supposed to do,you told the manager that the girl was overboard and giving extras.
    His reaction tells me he is trying to get a slice as well and any further involvment on your part is usually going to cost you money.

    You saw,you told,now butt out and get back to your hustle.

    Keep your mind on your money and your money on your mind,stay in the middle of this with all the other girls and you will be thinking about something else.

    I say talk to her once if your feeling all mother teresa,but if she continues to be a bitch,let her lay in the bed she made.
    This isnt the kiddie pool.
    The whole thing smells of drama and if you get close,your gonna get some on you.
    I say keep doing what your doing,click that lil situation on ignore.

    Best of luck.

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    I have seen ladies come in to audition or even take another position and end up dancing that night. If management felt she would do better as a dancer, sure they would take her. She should have already showed ID etc. As she probably did.

    I say she is a newbie (of course) let her slut ways fizzle out, and they will. Guys always want to check out newbies, and after a time, it's the same ole, same ole with her. Trust me it will get old with customers and her soon. And a regular usually comes back to the other dancers.

    However her behaviour needs to be mentioned to her by management. Hands up-skirt in a club....Nope, no good. She is heading down "bust highway" imo. I would not want to be on that shift either.
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    Well...if she hadn't yet been hired as a dancer, then the manager didn't exactly have the authority to tell her to get her tongue out of the customer's throat, right? I mean, at that point, she was basically a customer...wasn't she? Furthermore, the manager probably didn't want to speak to her right then for fear of pissing off a big-money customer.

    Perhaps the customer should have known better than to encourage such behavior in a newbie, but then again, you can't really blame the guy for taking advantage of her naivete,willingness, and uncertain employment status.

    Don't worry. If she's hired, she'll learn what's appropriate in the club and what is not. (I'm not sure that what she was doing really rises to the level of "extras," btw....at least not as they're defined over on the Blue Side)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Don't worry. If she's hired, she'll learn what's appropriate in the club and what is not. (I'm not sure that what she was doing really rises to the level of "extras," btw....at least not as they're defined over on the Blue Side)
    Reducing the "blandness" level of the pink side, Nicolina?

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    I say avoid her at all costs. I have dealt with this many times and gone to managers about dancers as well, if the manager doesn't care then just give up. It's sad and sick to think that if we are caught doing something wrong we are bitched out and fined BUT if it is a new dancer they look the other way. It happens all the time and at amny many clubs. I always avoid the dancers that do this if only because I don't want dancers and customers alike to think that I might act the same way.
    I have never met a dancer that acted this way who stayed on very long. They usually get in trouble with a customer they dated, their husband or their drug dealer. They stop making money and start to get desperate, the manager no longer shelters them and then they just give up on the dancer dream.
    Ignore and avoid the girl, do your best to make your money and don't try to be too friendly. yoiu obviously don't like the rep that she is making for herself so don't try to be a friend to that rep either.
    And for her not knowing any better!!!! COME ON! Women know not to act that way in the real world, why would they do it in a club where others are there to make money and they want a job! Please!
    I get sick of hearing that from newbies who go ahead and do it over and over and over again and have the same response to anyone who tells them to cut it out. We always know better if we are told the second time, it only takes one time to know the rules and half of it is common sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W
    Reducing the "blandness" level of the pink side, Nicolina?

    Phil.
    lol,Phil.
    It's worth a shot, right?
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    I agree that you should ignore her as well. Her slut methods will only allow her to experiance the guys that most of us want to avoid anyway. If the customer snubbed the other girls ,and only spent money on her and her dress, then let him spend the money. He will end up with false promises.... and she will end up REALLY hating men if she continues her ways. I bet her snobby attitude will wear off when she realizes the majority of other dancers don't respect her. The manager will also realize after he loses his quality dancers to scanks who get him in trouble. As long as you can easily make your money, and are able to avoid trouble , just pretend they do not exist.

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    Big Green's advice was completely on point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Well...if she hadn't yet been hired as a dancer, then the manager didn't exactly have the authority to tell her to get her tongue out of the customer's throat, right? I mean, at that point, she was basically a customer...wasn't she? Furthermore, the manager probably didn't want to speak to her right then for fear of pissing off a big-money customer.
    Management is incredibly tolerant and supportive of regulars, particularly the chosen few , but they will always take dancers aside if they cross a line. That's just part of what makes this story so insanely bizarre because the club makes the enforcement of rules a high art form. They are also usually much more supportive of dancer complaints. The dancers and waitresses also really look out for each other, and we do, too (4:30 AM phone check-ins by the dancers to make sure everybody is home safely, for example.)

    I think your explanation about the auditioning dancer part of this is on the right track, though. She wasn't hired yet, and may never be hired. She was a customer right then. Another possibility is that she already knew the high-roller customer (I think I know who the customer is, actually). That seems like a stretch, but it is possible -- I've introduced a couple of new potential waitresses and dancers to the club, and if I'm there when they are auditioning or before an interview, they will sit with me. It's also possible that she's in with one of the bouncers or staff.

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    I recently saw a dancer kissing a customer on the lips at the main bar out in front of everyone. It apparently was no big deal. To me though, I just figured she was a prostitute the way she was carrying on. I said nothing to her and walked right by. I have more class then to kiss a customer. I can make my money without possibly contracting an STD thankyouverymuch. That is so not worth it to me.

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    Bella, you've done such a great job describing the scene that I have a crystal-clear visual of everything going on: The level of activity in the club, where you were sitting, the dancers who complained and were ignored, the manager working that night and his response, and even the high-roller customer playing tonsil hockey with the auditioning dancer.

    As I said to Nic, the only thing that makes sense to me is that this girl was being treated like a customer, not an employee, or even a potential employee. Even given that situation, what amazes me is that they let her interfere with your money, directly or indirectly, since she was in the club after an audition. That's totally out of character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift_6x
    I recently saw a dancer kissing a customer on the lips at the main bar out in front of everyone. It apparently was no big deal. To me though, I just figured she was a prostitute the way she was carrying on. I said nothing to her and walked right by. I have more class then to kiss a customer. I can make my money without possibly contracting an STD thankyouverymuch. That is so not worth it to me.
    lol
    so I guess a blowjob is out of the question then???

    I sooooooo agree,I think its gross,but i know alot of entertainers who do it.
    They dont consider it an "extra"(I do)and the club doesnt either.(in most clubs i have seen,regardless of the level)

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    I'm thinking she did a lil more than talk in the interview, and/or the manager was HOPING she would give him a taste of what she was giving that customer. We all know managers are the biggest pigs in the club

    Whether or not they were treating her as a customer, for the type of club being described, they shouldn't have allowed her to act like that, or even hang out with customers at all before or after the audition. I've never worked a club where they allowed that from a girl auditioning. Especially not to that extent - and letting her hang out in stripper gear. No, they'll just put the girl to work on the spot if they're gonna let her do all that The manager was clearly way out of line.

    Judging from what has been said in this thread about this particular club, MAYBE, if there is a GM who is more fair-minded, he could do something about this if ALL the girls who were present for that situation would complain to him together in a mature, non-name-calling, matter-of-fact manner. Other than that, it sounds like y'all might be in for getting screwed if this girl is hired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift_6x
    I recently saw a dancer kissing a customer on the lips at the main bar out in front of everyone. It apparently was no big deal. To me though, I just figured she was a prostitute the way she was carrying on.
    Y'know, I've been hearing an awful lot about this 'DFK' and 'GFK' going on in the VIPs lately....Whatever happened to the well-known sex worker's creed that says kissing is too intimate to engage in with paying customers. This is an activity reserved for significant others only .

    Fucking? maybe. Kissing? Definitely not.

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    ^ Hehe...you know it's bad when whores have no standards.



    Management is incredibly tolerant and supportive of regulars, particularly the chosen few , but they will always take dancers aside if they cross a line.
    Tolerant of regulars indeed. I was sure I was going to get my head caved in by bouncers after things got way out of control between four of us in a booth last month, but I expected that's what I'd get for bringing a dancer date to my home club. Not only did none of the girls get fired but the manager actually offered my date a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Fucking? maybe. Kissing? Definitely not.
    Full-mouth kissing practices seem to vary dramatically from club to club. At my home club, it is so common with dancers and waitresses that I long ago developed a very dangerous reflex around really attractive women. This requires a lot of discipline and focus to balance out, particularly in social situations with attractive on-air TV talent or actresses as well as in places like Hooters, where the waitresses will throw their arms around you, touch you on the arms and close in very close to your face for long periods of time.

    Ahem. Focus, Jedi. She's an 18-year-old cheerleader!

    OK, update on the thread (I made a few phone calls).

    The auditioning dancer was offered a job the night these events took place. There was a lot of under-the-table tipping to managers and bouncers, and some confusion on how much the customer was spending on champaigne. In short, money was talking a lot more than it should have in this case, I'm very sorry to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner
    Ahem. Focus, Jedi. She's an 18-year-old cheerleader!
    All the more reason to jam your tongue down her throat (IMHO).
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    ^ It's so sexy when you give me permission.

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    Okay, sorry, I forgot which side of the board I was on for a minute there

    Seriously, though...sucking face with some guy cause he buys you a couple bottles of champagne just seems so....civilian, doesn't it?

    It's interesting to me that there seem to be some girls who would never dream of getting paid to suck dick in the CR, but they'll tongue-kiss good customers just to be friendly.....while other women in the Industry will expertly roll a rubber onto your johnson hands-free and suck you into oblivion in exchange for a few Jacksons, but will absolutely refuse to touch your lips with her own....

    The latter is old-school. Is the former really a new phenomenon in the Industry?

    I'm not particularly judgmental in these matters, but to be honest, the kissing thing just doesn't seem right....perhaps I'm just getting old?
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    I'm sorry that you had to experience a night like that. I would be mega-pissed, too...especially if the club payout was high. Where in baltimore do you work, btw? I have heard of some high payouts in the clubs there.

    I really like my club, but who can you go to when the person who is supposed to protect us doesn't.
    It sucks, doesn't it? I was actually thinking about this the other day. Luckily, the managers with whom I have worked at my past two clubs have been very good to most of the girls. But the dancing industry is one of those places where it's hard to argue with the rules. For instance, I was thinking "what if the club fee increases?" It's not like I want to work anywhere else...I can't refuse to pay it...I don't want to get a "normal job"...therefore, I am stuck paying it. There are many perks to this industry, but at the same time..many downsides.

    Good luck dealing with the dancer/waitress/slut...whatever lol

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    Sorry,this aint your business.
    Protect your own spot on the rotation.

    You did what you were supposed to do,you told the manager that the girl was overboard and giving extras.
    His reaction tells me he is trying to get a slice as well and any further involvment on your part is usually going to cost you money.

    You saw,you told,now butt out and get back to your hustle.

    Keep your mind on your money and your money on your mind,stay in the middle of this with all the other girls and you will be thinking about something else.

    I say talk to her once if your feeling all mother teresa,but if she continues to be a bitch,let her lay in the bed she made.
    This isnt the kiddie pool.
    The whole thing smells of drama and if you get close,your gonna get some on you.
    I say keep doing what your doing,click that lil situation on ignore.

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