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    Are DJ's a waste at the SC?

    Here is why I ask:

    I've been thinking about taking up a second job for some extra income. A natural move for me would be dee-jaying at a club, preferably a strip club. But lately, I've been reading posts on various strip club-related (was that supposed to be hyphenated?) message boards and most of the responses were negative saying that dj's were a waste of space, that they add nothing to the experience, that, in some cases, they even take away from the experience. Would it even be worth my time to start asking around about possible job opportunities at a strip club, or should I just look for a bar that needs some help?

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    DJ's are not going away. In most clubs they are responsible for setting the dancers rotations and keeping the stage moving. I go top one club where the dancers play their own music' trust me, it's ugly, especialy on a busy night when one girl doesn't want to get off stage and the next girl waiting backstage starts killing the first girl's music...

    The fact that some DJ's are egotistical morons sadly does not eliminate the need for them. If you are going to do it, try and be one of the DJ's that the girls love working with and that the customers don't complain about. A lofty goal but it's been done!
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    A good dj keeps the energy going... at my regular club, they sometimes don't have a
    dj, and when they don't, the customers don't have as much fun, and the dancers don't make as much, at least that's what it looks like to me...

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    The only thing that irritates me about DJ's is that some of them just won't shut the fuck up for ten seconds lined up in a row all night long.

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    I couldn't live without my dj's. I've worked at a club where there was no dj, and there just was no motivation. If you rely on us dancers to keep things going and girls on stage, well, you try to pry my ass away from a bottle of Patron. Enough said.

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    A good DJ is great, one who will announce the girls, push dances, and then pretty much keep quiet. It's irritating to be on stage (or be doing a dance) and have the DJ ramble on for a solid minute. I was recently back in a club with one of my all-time favorites and it is such a pleasure to have him around. I swear I notice a difference in income with a good DJ. Also, I love this guy because he keeps the song length consistent. Nothing worse than having one song run two minutes then the next one six. If they all stay at a reasonable length it helps us out.

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    As I work a clubs with and without DJ's I would say a GOOD DJ is A MUST!!!

    As Susan said a good DJ pumps the crowd up to tip us and buy dances.

    Customers spend more money under a sense of obligation. If they see other customers all around them buying dances, and tipping heavily on stage, they will follow.

    What is irritating is when in a big showclub or a smaller club, the DJ is SILENT, NOT pushing tips or dances, especially when he sees guys aren't spending.

    And it sucks working in a club with NO DJ, and the customers are sitting around like bumps on a log.

    Customers as I said before have to be put in a SENSE OF OBLIGATION to spend on us. THe clubs where money is flowing well on the floor ooze of that when one walks in the door.

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    There is a saying that says monkeys could do a certain job. Well thats true for sc dj's. In fact monkeys are doing the job in most cases.
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    I never realized it since that post. But there is a LOT of dj bashing on this board!

    As a custy, I never went to a club to hear music, but as a new regular to a certain club, I know a bad dj retracts from the environment. <This dj has the music up way to loud and you can't understand him when he speaks> As a custy at another club where the DJ is well respected I can take a step back and see how a good dj adds to the environment and a GREAT DJ can get the party going.

    Truth is, they all aren't Crap. They all aren't good. They all aren't Great. Just like the dancers. But between Paige and Capn and my experiences, Its come to light that the DJ has a good amount of influence on the energy in the club. I still feel the SC is about the ladies, but it seems that a Great UNBIASED AND FAIR DJ is as important as the stage the dancer walks on.

    However much like the girls that give Extras, the image that all DJs are worthless evolved from the few that are. Just like the image that all dancers are prostitutes evolved from the fact that some of them are.

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    Somebody has to play the music...announce the dancers...etc.

    I've been around some DJ's who are on a power trip regarding their status in the club. But most are OK and I imagine a few are very good and bring a lot to the table.

    Theres an inherent adversarial relationship between dancers and DJ's from what I've seen. The dancer complains that the DJ doesnt play the music she likes, loses the CD's she gives him/her, doesnt pay attention to when she is in VIP and keeps calling her to the stage...ad nauseum. The DJ bitches about the dancers not checking in, ignoring the calls up to the stage and most importantly "forgetting" their tip outs from time to time.

    Its a wonder they dont kill each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej
    There is a saying that says monkeys could do a certain job. Well thats true for sc dj's. In fact monkeys are doing the job in most cases.
    And you can slap a set of heels on a monkey and get better stage work than 50% of dancers.
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    Darlin, opinions on DJs are completely moot, for your purposes. The club pretty much decides whether or not they use a DJ, and most of them do. Also, just to clarify - a couple of very impolite posts notwithstanding, it was not said that the DJ adds NOTHING to the club experience. It was said (repeatedly) that most dancers don't feel that he or she contributes directly to dancer income. Entirely different issue.
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    A good DJ promotes you on stage, plays your favourite music and knows how to up the energy . I wouldn't be as motivated on stage with a bad DJ playing generic techno.

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    I can't remember where I found this article but thought it might fit here.
    Rave DJ -- Dude, first of all, raves were never even cool to begin with. The fact that you're still trying to "keep the party going" ten years later is bordering on The Most Pathetic Thing Ever. You can pile up all the lasers and lights and disco balls and glo sticks and pacifiers you want, but all you'll have is a big heap of Who Gives A Shit. And quit passing out all those stupid glossy promo cards announcing your latest weekly "Bliss-Chillout-Ambient-House-Electro-fest". You're 35 now -- isn't that a little old to be handing out postcards with psychadelic robots all over them? Also, your "DJ Name", whatever it is, is stupid.



    2. Hipster DJ -- You silly scenesters can stand there and look as jaded and above-it-all as you want, but you're not fooling me into thinking you're some kind of ######ing rock star. Say it along with me, "I am not a musician". No matter how many obscure bands you know or how big your record collection is, you're playing someone else's music. So stop acting like Mick ######ing Jagger at every retarded party and gallery opening I go to. I have a pretty impressive DVD collection and know quite a bit about film history, but if I show up at your house and play Taxi Driver for you, does that make me Martin Scorsese? No, it doesn't. Also, whatever you're wearing right now, it looks ridiculous



    3. Celebrity DJ -- Hey Carlos D, Danny Masterson and every indie rocker in the world -- you're already a star. You're already rich, already famous, already spreading your "love" (and herpes) far and wide with all the groupies you could possibly want. Do you seriously need more attention? Do you need to show us that you have really excellent taste in music? Do you need to throw in an ironically bad song to show us you also have an adorable, self-deprecating sense of humor? Really, you do? Well turn off the ######ing lights when you're done, assholes.



    4. Angry Hip Hop DJ -- Sup dude, you're cool, honest!



    5. Angry Music Snob DJ -- I don't really care if you have rare original first-press Joy Division vinyl, you're still just a douchebag with a record player. Don't you get tired of lugging around 400 pounds of vinyl just to be ignored by bars and clubs full of people who haven't heard of -- and could care less about -- your music collection? Get an iPod, dude. And don't even THINK about launching into your diatribe about how mp3s are inferior and DJ's who use iPod's are posers. There is no "art" to DJing. I don't care if you're using turntables, iPods, a laptop or a My First Sony Record Player, you're still just playing other people's music. Get over yourself, you pretentious jackass.

    The point is, while I enjoy good music in the background when I'm out reveling, I think we can all agree to cut out the lame DJ worship. I mean, think of how many people you know who claim to be DJ's. Everyon'e a ######ing DJ.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us
    In most clubs they are responsible for setting the dancers rotations and keeping the stage moving. I go top one club where the dancers play their own music' trust me, it's ugly, especialy on a busy night when one girl doesn't want to get off stage and the next girl waiting backstage starts killing the first girl's music...
    Around here, girls play their own music from the jukebox. If a song goes over, it gets faded out immediately (not sure if that's built into the jukebox or the bartender hits a dump switch). This is true at all the clubs near me (5-6 of them that I've been in, anyway). If there's a song that customers complain about it gets deleted from the jukebox. It works fine.

    If you are going to do it, try and be one of the DJ's that the girls love working with and that the customers don't complain about. A lofty goal but it's been done!
    The reason that the answer to the subject line is "yes" is because of what you say here: the best a DJ can do is be one that "the customers don't complain about". More often than not they detract, the best I've seen (several) don't detract but they don't add anything either. Their only real value is in non-DJ skills; I'd rather see an additional bartender with part-time dancer herding responsibilities than a DJ with those responsibilities.

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    DJs name the girls too.....I like to know who is dancing...
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