When someone tips you off and you make 200-400 off the person.
how much would you tip the valet if he hooked you up w/ a spender?
the bouncer?
the manager?
the champagne host?
When someone tips you off and you make 200-400 off the person.
how much would you tip the valet if he hooked you up w/ a spender?
the bouncer?
the manager?
the champagne host?
If he does it once...I'll tip him 10-15%. If he regularly sends me someone (watching out for me) then I'll tip him more accordingly. I never tipped the manager...and the Champagne Host always got 20% of my CL earnings even if he didn't do anything. So, the people I tipped out the most for "referrals" were the bouncers/floor guys.
What about the waitresses?
Anyone who makes me money gets 10%. But that's it. That is a completely reasonable referral fee in any other field, and efforts to get more out of me are just levying me a "sin tax". And I absolutely wrangle against any tipouts except to the DJ, who gets a flat fee of $10-$20 depending on the club I am working - it's not like his job changes depending on how much money I make. I am happy to pay a reasonable house fee here because I'm actually treated as an independent contractor, not an employee in some weird opposite land. I hugely resent the club offloading operating costs onto me, and I completely resist it in whatever means I have at my disposal.
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Damn you go girl, spread the word, keep working conditions high in this town!
Originally Posted by Jenny
I have a friend who was a strip club DJ and he was telling me that the DJ can make or break you and that I should tip him $20 up front as soon as I get to the club. Is this true or is that just the club he worked in? I don't know which club but it was in New York.
I can't imagine how. I mean what? He can give you a bad intro? I like the DJs and they like me (because I tip even when it isn't mandatory, and I always say thank you, and if I don't pick my own music I don't bitch about what they pick). But the only time they have made me money is when they have personally hooked me up with customers or bought dances. The only money they have ever lost me was in stage tips when they've cut my music. You make your money working the room, not onstage. It sounds to me like your friend is just a little self-important. Tip them a reasonable amount at the end of your shift (like if everyone else tips 20, and you tip 10 you might as well spit in his face. Like a 5% tip for a waitress, you know?) and be nice and polite to them.
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Same for the waitresses. 10% is a good cut, however, if you work in a big club...you want your people to remember you...and money talks. If you make $300 off of some guy that the floor guy/bouncer/waitstaff sent you to...15% would be $45. For me, that was no skin off my nose...and which is precisely why I would tip more than that if he regularly sent me to high-spending tables. I may be giving him $300 a night, but for heads up on the tables who buy a lot in funny money, or for the guy who is a high roller...I was always willing to do that...it kept me on step ahead of the other dancers there.Originally Posted by Serendipity7
To each their own. Tip out what works for you.





10% to whoever hooks me up, managers excluded. Honestly, the only people who recommend dancers in my club are the bartenders and DJ's.
As for the DJ, I don't know if our DJ's could make or break you, but they can make life a little harder if you're not nice to them. They control the rotation so they won't hesitate to put you on the short sets if you stiff them. In our club the girls don't pick the music but of course the DJ will be more accomadating to the ladies who are generous. I've seen girls who've had to dance to country for almost an entire shift. The most important aspect to keeping the DJ happy is he is also the guy who let's the manager know if he has enough girls so that a customer can buy you off the list. If he's bitter about you being a bad tipper, you can miss out on hundreds of dollars.
However, I won't hand anyone money upfront when I walk into work. They'll have to earn it just like I do.
Being a Dj myself, I agree with that. Having us on your side is much better and eaiser for you than having us working against you. I usually dont condone playing bad music for a bad tipper as that makes the Dj look bad and could hurt the overall club atmosphere. But there are eaiser ways of dealing with the bad tippers (just like mentioned above) Making them go on stage when they want to sit with the "big" money guy, or sticking them behind a much better looking or more talented girl in the lineup, not allowing them to skip....etc etc.
As a rule of them I usually tell girls to tip 10% that is usually fair. That way if your girls have a bad night so do you and if they have a great night, you have a great night. Music costs money (to stay updated) and most professional dancers will tell you that a bad dj (in general) can really hurt a club, so when you have a good one it is always best to take care of them. Especially in clubs when you have alot of dancers, you want to be remembered.
There are alot of dancers that just think we are "cd players" these girls want you to cater to them, give them great light shows, play the current best hits ...etc then at the end give you 5 or 10 bucks. When they made 1000. That is unacceptable. I tell them you get what you pay for....treat me right and I will bend over backwards to help, do it not and well your life at the club will be harder.
Just some thoughts...
Cap't
Last edited by Dj Captain Rob; 07-06-2005 at 02:48 PM.
Whatever, I like you SW DJ's less and less everyday. Thank god my DJ's aren't egomaniacs like ya'll. They would NEVER have the gall to say anything but "what can I play for you today ma'am?" and "wow, thanks for the fat tip, please come back and work again soon, your stage show rocks."
That, essentially, is all that needs to come out of your mouths.....
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Originally Posted by Mia M
Hahahahhahahahahahha,
Now that made my day
It's not about being egotistical, its about expecting to be paid for services. If you did give a fat tip then you would hear "what i can I play for you and thank you" I am only addressing the dancers that believe they should make all the money and that the dj is just there to pump them up and help them make all that money but not worth the respect or appreciation of a good tip.
My rule is I treat everyone with respect and help them to the best of my ability until they give me a reson not to, then I just focus my time and efforts on the girls that do take care of me. As i try to tell girls that have problems with other dancers, I am not here to make friends, get laid or party. I am here to make $$$.
Have A Happy Day![]()
You know what...Im about sick of thios anti-dj Retoric AGAIN. I'll tell you what, it an open invitation to all of you who think we dont do shit or deserve respect from you all. I currently work at Risque in Burlington N.J. Im there Tues and Thurs noon to seven and Wends and Fri seven till 2 am. Now come on down and listen to me and ask my girls what I do for them and tell them "Djs dont deserve crap" If you say that and someone dosent give you hell for talking shit on me, Ill buy you a drink.....ANY TAKERS???? Come on now, put your money where your mouth is. If not then shut up. PERIOD.
I Would Never Belong To Any Club That Would Have Me As A Member - Groucho Marx
I'm not anti-DJ although I have had my problems w/ them... I think that the real problem a lot of us dancers have is that the dJ thinks that HE is the reason we make the money. You guys may not be trying to say this at all, but that's what it is coming across as. We already have to pay the club, try to make a profit, avoid the crazies, pervs and the bitches and then to have to dela with an angry DJ that wants more than you are willing to pay him (especially if what you pay is the manadatory amount anyway.) Well, that gets to be too much sometimes.
Just like you all say that it is OUR job to dance, it is YOUR job to be the DJ. Why would you want to mess with the girls heads? If they are bitches then ignore them, you don't have to give them everything they want, but to play favorites or to intentionally punish a dancer is ridiculous! And frankly I think you should be fired.
This is not for ALL the DJs out there or even for all that come on here, but for the ones that make our lives even worse each night because you feel that you should get more of the money that we kill ourselves trying to make each night.
That said, I pay my 10% like a good girl, I don't agree with it when I am not allowed to pick my own music, but I pay it anyway. 10% is a chunk of change when I make a few hundred and when I have to compete with 30+ dancers that the DJ also gets 10% from w/out him having to endure a crummy lap dance, then I think that 10% works well.
Please don't lick me, it tickles..
I like DJs, but I never went to a club to hear music. As a matter of fact, I have bought V.I.P. rooms just to get away from it :/
No Girls...No DJs...
I think the club should set the rule on the DJ tipout.
No Club...No Girls...No Necesitties.
<Jukebox> 10% please. :/
People are not ruled by their memories.




DJ's that give me 'tude, like DJ Captain Rob there are what I'm having to deal with right now.. I don't ask for squat and I certainly don't give the DJ's I work with any guff about their job. I don't hit on them, flirt with them, or in any other way shape or form, whine about anything. I'm not drunk nor do I ask for anything special - FOR ANYTHING.
He does his job and I expect to be left alone so I can do mine. The DJ I work with knows that I like classic rock and roll and as well I have a case of CD's that I hand him night after night, which are mostly all numbered and labeled. All he has to do is pick one and play two tracks off of each CD.
Now granted, I do make mistakes.. thats part of working a double shift sometimes. As for tipping, if I forget or make a mistake, all you have to do is ask me nicely. I'm glad to share the wealth when I have it. If not I will try to make it up to them next time. But you know what, I STILL GET CRAP, because like some dancers.. some DJ's are cock-monkeys.
You guys have got to learn that just because there are crappy workers in your industry ( like mine ) Not all of these comments are directed toward YOU personally. Just my two cents worth.
Miss R.





I agree with Crow although I've never really had any major problems with a DJ. I'm not one to kiss thier ass either, I just do my job and expect others to do the same. I always give the DJ 10% of my earnings. On shifts where that equals $50 or more they always thank me. I've had shifts where I could only give them $10 and they still thank me and are pleasant and professional during following shifts.
I'm in no way sticking up for any of the mean, demanding, sleazy or arrogant DJ's of the world but I do understand the frustration of the good ones out there who watch girls make hundreds or thousands in a shift then hand them a five.
Valet: $10-20Originally Posted by tampafldancer
Bouncer: $10-20
Manager: $10-20
Champagne Host: $10-20
Waitresses: Depends on how well my custy takes care of them. If the custy gives them a great tip, nothing. If the custy gives them a sucky tip, I'll give them about $20-30.
It also depends on whether or not I danced all 10-20 of those songs. If I did, the tips are less. If the customer just gave me $400, I'll tip more (since I didn't have to bust my ass for it).
As for DJ's: Tipping percentages for the sake of tipping percentages is bullsh*t. If I make $1000 in a night, and the DJ (or bouncer, or valet, or waitress, or manager, etc...) did absolutely nothing different for me from what he normally does, he can expect to get the same tip as he always does: $5-10. How dare he expect $100 - 5 of my dances - when he's done nothing he's not already being paid to do?
If an employee points me to a big money customer, I'll tip a little more, but never a percentage. Just because a custy has big $$$ does NOT mean he's going to spend it on me, meaning I'm the one who has to do the selling and the dancing.
As Jenny stated, money is on the floor. True, some girls make loads of $$ onstage and you could probably attribute some of that to the wonderful lighting and spectacular sound system, but great money onstage does not = great money on the floor. That's where MY looks, flirting, communication, and sales skills come into play.





[QUOTE=Amethyst]Valet: $10-20
How dare he expect $100 - 5 of my dances - when he's done nothing he's not already being paid to do?
/QUOTE]
I think that's the big difference at my club, we all make the same wage: $2.19 per hour. The only people making more are the managers and they're not allowed to accept tips. We all help out the people who help us out.
Of course. You should be paid fairly for your service. But I've never worked in a club, in all the cities I've worked (okay, there weren't that many cities) in which the DJ A) ever made me money (in his capacity as a DJ. Once one had a friend/customer from another club, hooked me up, and I gave him 10% of what I made off him) or B) really has the power to fuck with me. Strip club DJs don't really DO anything except play the CDs. I think a $10.00 tip is perfectly adequate for what they are doing for me. I think that the service they provide is mainly to the club, and the club should be paying for it. There is no reason, whatsoever, that the DJ should be getting 10% of my earnings. I've never met a DJ who expected it.Originally Posted by Dj Captain Rob
Well gosh. I wouldn't listen to people talking crap about my DJ either. Doesn't mean that he deserves 10% of my take home. My DJ is delighted with a flat tip, apparently thinks I'm a terrific dancer and am great to work with. The idea that DJs have the right to "fuck" with dancers because they won't play the golden fucking goose is what Katrine is complaining about. You don't deserve abuse, but god. You're not performing brain surgery. You're not saving our first born. And I would be very surprised if many of your girls could honestly say that you directly made them any money in your DJ capacity.If not then shut up. PERIOD.
I get sick of this Golden Egg mentality, these duties that are made up in order to demand cash from us. You play CDs! That's all! You click and drag, or press play, depending on your club.
Mia M - you see, that I think that is terrible. And exactly what I am talking about. How can the club possibly justify paying employees 2.19? That's terrible. That is labour violation. They ought to whipped, then sawed up into little tiny pieces, pureed, and served over ice cream for the non-vegetarian workers of your club. That is dreadful. And the club has NO RIGHT to be offloading its operating costs onto us. That is wrong.
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Well, my friend who was a SC DJ is a really sweet guy and he was just telling me this in response to me telling him that I had finally gotten a guy to buy some dances and then the dj called me up on stage. Otherwise the guy was in this "yeah keep dancing" mode and it totally broke the mood and he never bought anymore after. My friend was saying if I had tipped the dj in advance he would have taken me off stage rotation when I was dancing with someone.





It's not a labor violation because we are tipped. $2.19 is the minimum pay for sevice industry employees which are tipped in the US. Things might be different in Canada. I think it's a lot more fair then skimming from the dancers' private dances and/or charging house fees in order to pay for the salaries of other employees. All the money my club makes is off the liquor sales and cover charge, so they are very fair.
I don't mind tipping those that help me, that's why the DJ's and bouncers are referred to as the support staff, they support me so I'm gonna scratch thier back. Just like a server tips the bartender and the bartender tips the barback.
Back to the original qusetion. I think if someone refers a customer to you, you should tip that person at least 10% of what you made from the customer. More if prior to the referral you were having a craptacular day and that referral helped make your shift.
Aside from all of this...MOST DJ's are hourly employees. But, hey...why split beans?
Another thing...if a DJ works in a BIG club (anywhere from 70-100 girls/night). Him getting $20 per girl would make him making more money than most of the dancers. What's wrong with that picture? IMHO, DJ's should be tipped...but a TIP is a few bucks as a thank you for your cooperation. It is not a bribe to keep from being screwed with...and since it's rarely the DJ who points me to the big spenders...him holding his hand out like he's God's gift to my money flow is a joke.
*sigh* Anywho...
Exactly, Venus!!!
Do you guys really think it's fair that you make more money than most of the girls in your clubs? Really, honestly- do you?
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