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    I have some bad news for the SC DJ's. I work in a club that is a really big money maker for the dancers and guess what? No DJ!! That's right, we either cue up our own cds or (like me) plug in an mp3 player and start dancing.

    The customers love it that there is no dj. The club does not allow the girls to skip stage, there is no VIP, and stage tips are great. There are also a LOT of lap dances sold in this place.

    There are some other clubs I've worked at that used this same opporating procedure, and it seemed to work fine. These clubs usually had more money to be made then the fancier "show clubs" in the area.

    As a side note I have worked with 2 DJ's in my career that really did measureably help the dancer's money on the shifts that they worked. All the girls wanted to work on Brad's shifts because he had a personality that really kept the energy going in the room. He really banked at that club usually pulling down up to $1000 a night just in tips from the 6 dancers that worked his shift. His attitude was like a house mom toward the girls, so they still took care of him even if they were having a bad night. The other DJ worked in a big club, was an ameture comedian, and did some great stand up to keep the guys feeling light hearted and kept the customers opening their wallets. These guys both did fabulous jobs and were well paid for it.

    I have met DJ's that though that the sun and moon rose on thier command. One DJ thought he was really messing with me by playing stuff like Weird Al Yankovick, but it backfired and I worked it and made double what I normally make on stage. Cut my set short?? Great! more time for lap dances! Call me to stage out of VIP?? Won't happen at the clubs I work at, and if it does happen, I won't go back again.

    I know this thread has gotten a little off topic, but I thought I would share. Just remember that were the girls make the majority of their money really has nothing to do with the DJ (lap dances) so long as the songs keep playing the girls are working!

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    Well, aparently I ruffled a few hen feathers here...

    I guess I wasn't clear enough in my posts, so i will try again I am not sure why so many got offended by a very matter of fact statement but oh well.

    Ok, first off I was not saying that you should play horrible music or be rude towards a dancer because she doesnt tip well. That is unprofessional and I try to be as professional as possible.
    What i was saying that there are a few dancers (and i guess maybe a few here) that think that the Dj doesnt do anything and is not worth a decent amount of money. Well for those that dont think we help (notice i said help and not that we ARE the reason) I would like to see a dancer do a set on stage to silence, or a vip dance for that matter.

    My point is that there is a balance that needs to be...its called fairness. Dj's are not the reason you make money, but we ARE the reason that there is music being played, the club is being promoted, YOU are being promoted, the rotation is being run..etc etc. Its called Teamwork... We run the show, You are the show. We provide a service that is not an easy job, just like yours. Granted we dont get naked but you CHOOSE to be a performer, that dosent make us any less important. Do i think we are the shit?? No of course not, my point is just that I have a problem with when I bust my ass for a performer, give her great stage shows, pump the hell outta the vip room for her and do all these little "extras" so she can make the most $$$ possible and then she hands me a crappy tip at the end...yeah it pisses me off. When she expects the same treatment the next time...well it will be different. Only fair.

    I have always respected the girls I work with but occasionally you get a girl that believes that she should be the only one to make money just cause she is naked and has to deal with the guys, and that the dj is just supposed to shut up and "serve the little queeny". I as a professional will not tolerate it.

    Heres one for you girls out there....do you treat all your customers the same?? No you dont. The guy that spends the big bucks on you will get all the special treatment, you attention etc etc... The guy that occasionally gets 1 or 2 dances, well you only give him a quick minute or two.. right?? Why is that?? cause you take care of your money. Well so do we...

    Now I saw alot of posts saying that 10% to a good Dj is fine and no problem and those girls are great, they take care of the dj and he in turn will be appreciative and take care of them. So why do some of you girls take offense about the fact I would not do a great job for a low tipper. Should I??? Just bust my ass and go out of my way for a girl who dosent appreciate me??
    I work hard and from what I am told (not tooting my own horn here) do a great job for my girls, I dont try to nail them and remain as professional as possible, all I expect is a little appreciation in return. I dont think I am outta line in that. Also one more quick thing to add to my book here, as far as the 10% goes, if a girl makes 1000 i dont expect 100, if a girl wants to give that well that is great but I usually "cap" at 50 tops.

    Well i think thats enough for now... I am tired

    May you all have a great nite..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow
    DJ's that give me 'tude, like DJ Captain Rob there are what I'm having to deal with right now.. I don't ask for squat and I certainly don't give the DJ's I work with any guff about their job. I don't hit on them, flirt with them, or in any other way shape or form, whine about anything. I'm not drunk nor do I ask for anything special - FOR ANYTHING.

    He does his job and I expect to be left alone so I can do mine. The DJ I work with knows that I like classic rock and roll and as well I have a case of CD's that I hand him night after night, which are mostly all numbered and labeled. All he has to do is pick one and play two tracks off of each CD.

    Now granted, I do make mistakes.. thats part of working a double shift sometimes. As for tipping, if I forget or make a mistake, all you have to do is ask me nicely. I'm glad to share the wealth when I have it. If not I will try to make it up to them next time. But you know what, I STILL GET CRAP, because like some dancers.. some DJ's are cock-monkeys.

    You guys have got to learn that just because there are crappy workers in your industry ( like mine ) Not all of these comments are directed toward YOU personally. Just my two cents worth.

    Miss R.
    Ok, I'll bite.

    Crow, where in my posts did I reflect Attitude? I was just stating that we do a good job for our girls and should be appreciated moneywise. If a girl dosent tip well then she shouldnt get our help or our best. What so wrong with that? Like I said in my above post, should I just not care that some girls dont appreciate me and still go out of my way to help them? I am a very fair Dj and the dancers I work with for the most part always take care of me and I do appreciate them very much. It just the one or two bad apples....
    Anyways, it is intresting to see the replys. I always enjoy this debate.

    Cap't

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    ok, im going to jump in here.

    I have a problem with the attitude of some dj's. I am with venus here, i think a tip should be given to the dj as a show of appreciation and cooperation; HOWEVER, tipping the dj out 10% of your income (on top of house and other tipouts) is ridiculous. How hard is it to put me up on stage 4-5 times a shift, announce my name, and play the cd's that I bring in? If I make $500, I don't think that the effort that the DJ put forth is worth $50. That's ten minutes with some smelly horny asshole rubbing his gross little hands all over me - why am I doing that for the dj?

    I am the one on the floor dealing with drunk assholes and getting felt up. The dj sits in the confines of his little booth and talks and plays music. ITS NOT FAIR when the dj makes more than hardworking, hustling dancers. In fact, it flat out pisses me off.

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    Like I said in my above post, should I just not care that some girls dont appreciate me and still go out of my way to help them?
    I think a big part of what is being said here, that you are just flat out ignoring, is that "your best" and "your help" doesn't really mean that much to us. Not in terms of it is not appreciated, but in that it is not really that helpful. You are simply not providing a service that is worth that much money, or really even directly for us. As everybody (including me) has said - you play CDs. That's all. Apparently some DJs in some clubs do have the power to really ruin your night (never been the case in a club I've worked at. We've always had policies. E.g. - you are skipped on the stage if you are making over a certain amount. Under that and you go on. Full stop.), but not really to make it better. How hard we work for our money (although as TFD points out, it can be very hard) is not even the point. It is OUR money. We should not have to pay for the costs of running the club unless we own the club. You are a club employee - you should be paid a respectable wage by the club, and receive our tips as a token (yes, a token) of gratitude, not as a mode of payment.

    I remember one American club I worked at, at which the bouncers would stand by the stage and hold your hand when you get off. Why, you may ask? Were the girls on crutches? Perhaps mostly very elderly, and unable to climb stairs? Maybe they just really, really liked us, and wanted to hold hands with us? Nay. Nay, I say. It was sheerly so that they could demand payment at the end of the night. A completely trumped up, unnecessary, mostly unwanted service just so the club wouldn't have to pay them. Incidentally, I did not make many friends in that club because I wouldn't do it. What their actual job was? Protect the girls? Ladies, we are all in the business, and we know that is just naive. It was to count our dances, so that we could pay out the club. Why, in the name of god, do I pay them for this? What a stupid thing for me to do. Like, "here, take my money so that you can take more of my money." No, if their main purpose there is to facilitate the club taking my hard earned cash, the club can damn well pay them for it.
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    I am going to try and offer an unbiased customer point of view here on a more serious note. Thanks for the PM of support by the way, I'm onsite so I'll try to be brief.

    I never liked specials, I don't really understand them other than to make the cheapies spit out their cash, I guess there is value in that :/ but When I first went to a club, I thought the specials where a way of circulating girls to a new customer, which made me meet one. And I knew it was a 3 for 1 deal 3 laps for 40, but Her 1 dance wasn't all that great and we spent the other two bsing about something funny I saw. Regardless I tipped her in the amount of the full cost of 3 dances and a little more, and her reply was an apology about the weak dance its just hard to be motivated to get payed a third blah blah blah

    On another note, the DJ at this particular club was awesome, he controlled the lights and the sound and some other effects. But I can't stress this enough: I didn't know, nor did I mind that there was a dj until I talked to the guy out of some odd chance in passing. I just wasn't paying attention on that. And after talking to him the dancer I was with noted how cool he was. This I noticed only because the attitude 'everyone likes everyone' really adds to the appeal of the place. But we talked money through our conversation, and his response was 'I really just like my job, if they feel like tipping me, they tip me. The club helps out if I need money, but I'm really kinda like a juke box with a mouth, or male nipples.' I laughed but this post really makes me appreciate him as a person. He doesn't Fuck with anyone no matter how much he makes, and he is apparently appreciative that he is on the employeed side of the strip bar and not only gets to see all the women, but get to know them too. Anyways, it was a great experience, and I really am surprised as a customer to see hostility between the two factions.

    In my HUMBLEST of opinions, no offense to any DJs, but if I step back and look at the whole situation, I would say that a Pioneer Stereo System doesn't make turn a hyundai into a mercedes. I mean if the Girl is hot, and personable, and really friendly she's who I'm paying my money to. SHE'S why I'm there. not the drinks, the music, or the audience. I've actually decided not to go into a club anymore <Partners> simply because due to all the fees the dancer goes home with $5 per dance. Its an abuse of privelage there, and tho I see that there is value in a Great DJ it seems to be more of a feature than a necessity. Hell the DJ is completely hidden in diamond's in cleveland.

    I guess the bottom line is, the music the dancer is dancing to has never made me reach in my pocket.

    I'm seriously sorry if that offends, but I thought an honest customer perspective would help here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Captain Rob
    Having us on your side is much better and easier for you than having us working against you. But there are easier ways of dealing with the bad tippers (just like mentioned above) Making them go on stage when they want to sit with the "big" money guy, or sticking them behind a much better looking or more talented girl in the lineup, not allowing them to skip....etc etc.

    That is unacceptable. I tell them you get what you pay for....treat me right and I will bend over backwards to help, do it not and well your life at the club will be harder.

    Okay, this right here.. wtf is that? Who are you? The DJ god or something? This is exactly what I am talking about and yes I cut out the other parts of your quote just so I could focus on this part.

    This is what is unacceptable - this is condescending, mean and downright crappy and frankly it's just well.. yucky. And it's comments like this that make me glad I am quitting this entire industry shortly. You should read my other post I put up about DJ's. * sigh *

    Right, being mean makes me want to tip a DJ more. Yep, thats logical. * eye roll *

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    Wow... sometimes I'm glad I'm not a DJ anymore.

    Ok here's my take on things. DJs are just like any other person in the strip club business. You have good ones, bad ones, and the mediocre. It happens. Just like dancers, just like managers, etc etc... And just like dancers, if you do a sucky job, you get a sucky tip. Now lemme get into something a lil more specific here.

    When I was a DJ, I had to:

    A) memorize who liked what music. Sure, making a list works, but when you are trying to get timing down, flipping through lists isnt the most simple thing.

    B) babysit. Cause no matter what club you are at, there is always at least ONE girl who you have to put a locating device on. She never seems to get on stage when its her turn... ever. Then there is the catfighting over a specific song, or "blah blah blah I dont wanna be up after So-and-so."

    C) work the lights. Cause a lot of strip club owners dont wanna hire a lighting guy. Ok, rotating lights at THIS moment of the song cause it's flattering, and strobe at THIS part and THAT part, that should make the dancer look REAL cool during those parts...

    D) work the crowd. Get them hyped up. Make em laugh maybe? Lighten up the mood and get the money and the blood flowing.

    Now, as a dancer currently, I've worked in jukebox clubs. Suck. Hated it, dont wanna do it again. Half of the guys didnt know who was who, didnt feel any sort of vibe from the club, etc... they got bored. I got bored. We ALL got bored.

    The DJs at the club Im at now also act as management when the manager on duty needs to run out to the store for lemons for the bar, or needs to go to the bank, etc. The DJs at the club I'm at now also extend themselves as a human bank for girls. They have a lockbox in the booth that girls can keep their money in if they choose to. Rather nice of them.

    Now I agree, we work mainly for ourselves, as do all people in the employed world... but hey ladies? DJs DO help. We do. Believe me or not. I dont care... Musicians can perform in a coffee house or they can perform in a concert hall, with good lighting and sound guys to help enhance the performance. Same with dancers. Even if I had never DJd, I know how I like having DJs instead of the jukebox... but maybe its just me?

    I also know some DJs that DO NOT get payed by the bar, and live off of tips. Oh hey, kinda like dancers!

    NOW. As for trying to be God Is A DJ... I think waving the carrot in front of the horse is wrong. Seriously. A DJ is hired to help entertain. So do that. Dont try to hold the quality of your work over a dancer and their cash. Do a good, professional job. If a few girls treat you REAL good, then do an excellent job. Good and excellent BOTH work, and everyone stays relatively happy. If someone treats you like shit, you do NOT have to be nice to them, but you DO have to do your job.

    I dont always agree that a set percentage works when tipping DJs. But dont just dismiss us as Not Doing Anything Important, ok?

    Cause McDonalds workers arent "important" but its a hell of a lot easier than cooking your own burger at home.
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    By the way Paige, glad to see your okay. Sorry, back to Topic.

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    I agree w/ Paige's post entirely. I understand how it can be difficult to be a dj sometimes, but in the clubs I have worked we generally make it very easy for you. We bring in our own Cds and mark them w/ our names this way you know what to play, you ge the choice of the music unless the girl requests something else. And then you push in the CD and press play.
    I worked w/ a DJ that made his own life easy by putting all the grils cds on the comp and then labeling them with their name in their own file. And HE was very happy just to get tipped 5 bucks, of course we tipped him more because he was an awesome guy and so thankful just to get tipped, not that you need to grovel, but hey we like to be appreciated too, especially when the club is paying you anyway.
    Djs deserve to be tipped, we've pretty much agreed to that, but I've made the same amount or more at clubs where it only a jukbox and I press play
    All said, it sucks to be a DJ if you feel you are underpaid, BUT why would you feel you ARE underpaid if you go homke with a few hundred for pressing a button while a dancer cries in the dressing for not making it past fifty?
    What does the DJ truly deserve? I say try being a dancer for a week at a DJ club, heck it can even be straight club, although a gay club is preferred since you would be dealing with men like we do. After that week go back to being a DJ and think about how much you were helped as a dancer, how the Dj affected your night, and what you think that DJ deserved. I believe you will have a change of heart on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow
    Okay, this right here.. wtf is that? Who are you? The DJ god or something? This is exactly what I am talking about and yes I cut out the other parts of your quote just so I could focus on this part.

    This is what is unacceptable - this is condescending, mean and downright crappy and frankly it's just well.. yucky. And it's comments like this that make me glad I am quitting this entire industry shortly. You should read my other post I put up about DJ's. * sigh *

    Right, being mean makes me want to tip a DJ more. Yep, thats logical. * eye roll *

    Miss R
    Where the hell does that say be mean or rude to them?? I wasnt saying anything about being the "god" or any "power" tripping dj.

    That quote you pulled out was mearly saying that if someone CONSISTANTLY tips me badly for the good job I do and expects me to go out of my way to help them, i wont. Will I screw with them, yes and no. I am not downright hostile about it. I just adjust a couple little things to make that persons ability to make the bigger money harder and save those special little tricks for the girls that take care of me. A low tipper just gets a basic job, thats all...I just back off the intensity a little bit. When they want to be skipped so they can hustle the money guy, I put them on stage or they only go on stage when the club is in its slower "lull" periods of the night. I save the busy times for the better girls. I dont sit in my little box with a swelled head thinking of how to ruin all the girls nights, like i said before most of the girls treat me very well, and I couldnt be more appreciative about it.

    Now, somebody above said I was ignoring the fact that a DJ dosent do anything but play cd's. I guess I should address that...
    Well there will always be girls that believe that a dj is a human jukebox and deserving of nothing more. Well lets start simple...we play Cd's...ok, where do those cd's come from?? They cost money, especially if you want to stay current you spend anywhere from 200-300 a week just to make sure you keep up with all the music that is released, why? to keep your girls happy.
    Think of it this way...We ADVERTISE you, we somehow have to implant it in the customers heads that you are so special and he should spend his cash on you (the trick is doing this for all the girls).
    If you had a product, or a service you would go to the radio station and advertise on it, they would record a little 30 second spot (or commerical) and you would pay a decent amount of cash to have it run. The spot by the way is loaded into a little computer called an AVN and is played automatically at certain times. Well does that mean that the radio station should be paid less for the advertising??
    Now, I will partially side with some of you here (although i may regret it), I NEVER said dj's are the reason you make money, i said they HELP you, they keep the overall club in the "party" mode. That way people walk in and want to stay because it is busy, girls are everywhere and it looks like fun. Have you ever walked into a club where there is a bad dj? (music is low, or occasional dead air...slow boring songs...etc etc) people stay for one quick beer and then leave. Too boring. One more thing on this, if you didnt have music you wouldnt have anything to dance too...that might be kinda hard for you to make money. Also we dont just push buttons (well some do) alot of us have to talk alot and sound professional to help promote the club and YOU. Alot of you may not think so but it does make a difference. Do you need to "kiss our ass" NO...sheesh, do you need to give us all your money, NO. Do we think that we are the best thing to ever happen to the world or the club for that matter, NO. I cannot believe how a very simple statement gets some many feathers ruffled here...Lol.

    Anyways ok, lets talk money. Most 10% clubs have a cap (i think i mentioned this already) so if you made a 1000 you wouldnt have to shell out 100. But 10% is fair. Now someone was going "its my money its my money", yes it is, but you still have to pay your "tax" to the behind the scenes people that make that happen. Just like anything else. When you become a dancer, you know what you are signing up for. Thats what you choose to do, sry if it is hard, i have been doing this along time and i see what you girls have to do, or deal with..it sucks, never said it didnt. But that is some of the crap you have to put up with to be able to make the big money, thats the tradeoff.
    Also, do i think Dj's should make more than the dancers? No, not all off them Dj's really should run about the middle of the pack.

    Oh, one more thing.. keep in mind Dj's dont get breaks, not like you who can sit in the dressing room, sit and have a drink etc etc. You may THINK we are just sitting there doing nothing but in reality we are scrambling to find and set up our next girl, run the lights for the current girl, watch the floor for drunken idiots, keeping track of your next few girls so you know where they are when you need them...ect
    Not as easy as you may think, the best Dj's make it LOOK easy becuase we have learned over the years how to do it. If you dont like Dj's or think we are worth a fair amount, well there are many jukebox clubs out there, just make sure you yell out your name real loud when you go on stage

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    Will I screw with them, yes and no. I am not downright hostile about it. I just adjust a couple little things to make that persons ability to make the bigger money harder and save those special little tricks for the girls that take care of me. A low tipper just gets a basic job, thats all...I just back off the intensity a little bit. When they want to be skipped so they can hustle the money guy, I put them on stage or they only go on stage when the club is in its slower "lull" periods of the night. I save the busy times for the better girls.
    There's no "yes and no" here. That's just yes. Nutshell, most clubs I've worked in there is a rotation. You are expected to maintain the rotation absent some policied event (e.g. a champagne room). DJ's don't generally just get to march the girls on and off stage at whim.
    I dont sit in my little box with a swelled head thinking of how to ruin all the girls nights
    How does this even match what you just said? It sounds like that is PRECISELY what you do.

    Well there will always be girls that believe that a dj is a human jukebox and deserving of nothing more.
    See, here is a thing - you are taking a reluctance to hand over our cash for a bullshit service for a personal insult. We don't think your job is either challenging or enough of a direct service to warrant a large tip. That is not the same as dehumanizing you.
    where do those cd's come from??
    Girls actually mostly bring in their own. Even more so now CD burning is so common.

    Think of it this way...We ADVERTISE you, we somehow have to implant it in the customers heads that you are so special and he should spend his cash on you
    We are aware that YOU think you do this. You must be aware (by now) that WE (generally) don't think you do it particularly effectively. DJ's say cute things about me when I'm on stage, but even they realize that it is more to amuse ME than sell me to the customers. They are perfectly well aware that if I can't do it myself, they sure as hell can't help me.

    Well does that mean that the radio station should be paid less for the advertising??
    Ridiculously faulty analogy. Businesses SEEK OUT that kind of promotion, and if it is ineffective don't buy it anymore. I am perfectly happy if the DJ does his job competently - eg plays my damn CDs and follows club policy on the stage rotation. I don't need any favours, and I don't think favours are good for much except so far as being sweet or amusing.

    Have you ever walked into a club where there is a bad dj? (music is low, or occasional dead air...slow boring songs...etc etc)
    Again. This has to do with service to the club. Not us. Lobby them for higher pay (on that I will be right behind you). But expecting me to pay for it is like saying "if the decor in here was better, you have more customers. So the dancers ought to pay to redecorate the bar." Plus - rather than say "good" and "bad" DJ, let's go with "competent" and "incompetent". Remember when competency was the bar for having a job? Want to know why we have the dregs of the business in strip clubs (all present company excepted of course. And all my DJs. Or at least most of them)? Because the club won't pay them, and instead make them rely on what is essentially dancer charity. Any wonder the good ones say "Fuck this" and get the hell out? Well, I don't wonder.

    When you become a dancer, you know what you are signing up for. Thats what you choose to do
    That's just a stupid thing to say. All the DJs in Mia M's club knew what they were signing up for, so they should just suck up their 2.19 an hour?

    but you still have to pay your "tax" to the behind the scenes people that make that happen.
    This isn't tax. That makes no sense. We have all said that we have no problem paying for direct service. What we resent is being treated like golden geese, fattened up and told to lay, lay, lay.

    DJ's should get breaks. I think it is disgraceful that you do not get your 1 hour "lunch" and 2 15 minute breaks. You should. Mostly, where I have worked, you do. Honestly, not a full hour at a time, but there is "relief". But again - demanding that we pay for your shoddy work environment makes no sense.
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    See, here is a thing - you are taking a reluctance to hand over our cash for a bullshit service for a personal insult. We don't think your job is either challenging or enough of a direct service to warrant a large tip. That is not the same as dehumanizing you.
    For A bullshit service, as in DJing is a bullshit service, or bullshit service as in a specific DJ is doing a shitty job? Cause seriously? If it's the former, I'm pretty damned insulted. And to say that what we do isnt challenging is most definately an insult. Especially if a club has a decent sound board and overall DJ system. I'd love to see just anyone do it and DO IT WELL on their first try. Holy Christ. I went to college for radio and I was still only mediocre as a strip club DJ for the first few months. Yep, I see it very much as being dehumanized. We arent good enough because... we arent working in rocket science or brain surgery or... dancing? Heh. Well here's a Clue By Four. I DJd. I dance now. I can honestly say that I have an easier job NOW.


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    Girls actually mostly bring in their own. Even more so now CD burning is so common.
    Then I guess that is your club, and lucky them. Most clubs I've worked in arent like that. In fact, the club I'm at now? I'm the only girl to bring in her own CDs. The DJ brings most of the music. In fact, when the last night DJ left, he took all of his CDs with him, so now we have NO CDs. Thankfully the daytime DJ burned most of them to his computer.
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    For A bullshit service, as in DJing is a bullshit service, or bullshit service as in a specific DJ is doing a shitty job? Cause seriously? If it's the former, I'm pretty damned insulted.
    Look Paige, due respect to you and every other DJ. As I say - this is not a personal insult. And I mean that. I LIKE my DJs. I do. I think they are nice and fun. But really, I think the service they provide (the overall party atmosphere that you guys keep referring to) is for the club, and I stand by, fully and absolutely, that they don't help me make money in their capacity as DJs.

    When I say a "bullshit" service, what I mean is a service that is manufactured or talked up in order to justify making us pay for it. I mentioned earlier the bouncers holding our hands as we get off the stage. The DJs do not help me make money. For that service that they do provide - playing the cd - a flat tip of 10-20 is very adequate.

    Yep, I see it very much as being dehumanized. We arent good enough because
    You aren't good enough for what? 10% of my earnings? Life? I don't even understand this feeling, but you're good enough, Paige!

    ... we arent working in rocket science or brain surgery or... dancing? Heh.
    Heh, indeed. As I said - the challenges of our job are irrelevent (and note that WE are not demanding a percentage of YOUR earnings. So we don't have to justify what we do for DJs.). The point is that it is our money and nobody has an inherent right to it, because there MAY be (and I stress the may - I had another bad night. I shall never work another non-tuesday again) a lot of it.

    Well here's a Clue By Four. I DJd. I dance now. I can honestly say that I have an easier job NOW.
    Okay. I'm not sure whether to say "good for you" or "that's terrible." Do you like being challenged?
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    See, here is a thing - you are taking a reluctance to hand over our cash for a bullshit service for a personal insult. We don't think your job is either challenging or enough of a direct service to warrant a large tip.

    You know i will probably get alot of crap for saying this, but we may not think the same about your job. Dancers in a good club (not one where you have to be touched and mauled by the cust.) dont have to work very hard either. Yes, they are naked, yes they have to sit with a guy and make him like her..etc but overall does it really warrant tons of cash too? Does the fact you are naked really mean that you should make 10-20 times more in a week what most people have to work 40+ hours killing themselves doing? (Not meaning Dj just in general) Granted I respect alot of dancers and really give them credit for having guts to do what they do...i sure as hell wouldnt want to do it. But not challenging? A bullshit service? I suggest you try running a 25 girl rotation on a busy night, keeping everyone happy...that means all the little princess like you that think we dont mean much. Keep the club managment/owners happy...keep the show running mistake free...oh and of course be able to talk and promote. Its this type of mentality that I am talking about.
    We are aware that YOU think you do this. You must be aware (by now) that WE (generally) don't think you do it particularly effectively.
    Ok where do get off saying I dont do it well? You dont know how I am as a Dj, in fact I have many dancers that wont even work unless I am on. And that is with them all knowing that I expect to be taken care of. They appreciate me and I appreciate them...how is that so wrong?
    Ridiculously faulty analogy. Businesses SEEK OUT that kind of promotion, and if it is ineffective don't buy it anymore. I am perfectly happy if the DJ does his job competently - eg plays my damn CDs and follows club policy on the stage rotation. I don't need any favours, and I don't think favours are good for much except so far as being sweet or amusing.
    Hmmm not sure I follow you on the stage rotation policy...but anyways, ok lets say your Dj did a "competent" job for you. Do you pay him well?

    Again. This has to do with service to the club. Not us. Lobby them for higher pay (on that I will be right behind you). But expecting me to pay for it is like saying "if the decor in here was better, you have more customers. So the dancers ought to pay to redecorate the bar." Plus - rather than say "good" and "bad" DJ, let's go with "competent" and "incompetent".

    You have never really had a good dj, have you? There are good and bad ones, and the more professional (not house dancers that work 1 club) dancers will tell you that a good dj can help you, a bad one will hurt the club overall...which in turn hurts all.

    This isn't tax. That makes no sense. We have all said that we have no problem paying for direct service. What we resent is being treated like golden geese, fattened up and told to lay, lay, lay.

    Thats a funny statement, golden geese...lol. Well I try to avoid fattening up the girls..but seriously... That is complete bull, I am not saying that we deserve ALL your money or more than a fair share. Is 20-30 bucks gonna kill you when you made 1000. Just pretend your putting a 1 in the jukebox for everysong you hear during the course of the night. Would that make more sense?

    Btw.. I have to correct a statement you made that i failed to quote...

    Yes, I DO hurt a low tippers ability to make money, I never said ALL. I treat ALL the girls very very well. They make money...I make money. Why would i shoot myself in the foot? It is simple, If one girl outta 30 decides that I am doing a job not worthy of a decent (not saying fat) decent tip. Then I am not going to go out of my way to help her. After a few nights of her making less and less from positioning, she usually talks to the other girls about what is going wrong and they go to bat for me and she changes her tune. My girls encourage girls to take care of me. Now why would they do that if i was so horrible or a Dj god...Lol (Thats funny).

    Btw.. I still treat my low-tip girls with respect, and am always nice to them personally. Just not giving the great light show, cranked up music and heavy pumping. This isnt about all dancers this is only about 1 or 2 bad ones that still have that "I should be the only one to make money, goddess attitude".

    I see lots of people here that do understand where I am coming from, I appreciate it. To those that think I am just way outta line, well there will always be girls like you that think that way, I respect your thoughts and opinions. You ladies have a wonderful day.

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    Bullying your co-workers for tips is simply out of line and thats what I, as in me, myself and no one else is addressing.. YES I agree, everyone should get paid. Then on the other hand how long do you think that patron that I am trying to promote myself to.. Note I said I AM, not YOU the DJ, as I have to talk to him, make sure he's happy etc, Would hang around if I said to him as he was asking about the dance price.. " Oh by the way, I expect X amount of dollars for a tip after I dance for you." That guy would run as if his tail was on fire.. and thats exactly what your commentary that I quoted said to me.

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    Okay. You're actually right. I do have some bitterness. It really bothers me - on more than a personal level - that everyone thinks it's just so OKAY to demand that we support the whole damn club. The idea being that as you said our job isn't "hard" and is certainly isn't high skilled, and yet can be so lucrative, so we automatically "owe" everyone in the vicinity. Club employees should be paid by the club. Not us.

    If "never had a good DJ" means that I've never had one that made me money - no. I never have. I doubt most girls have. I have had many DJs I have enjoyed working with, and nary a one who expected anything but a flat tip.

    You know i will probably get alot of crap for saying this, but we may not think the same about your job.
    I know. I think that is what leads to our goosey mentality. And you are not entirely wrong. But, keep in mind, that we are not asking you to tip us. So we don't have to justify what we do to you. And keep in mind - that low skill or not, there are reasons most women won't do this job. We take on all those reasons for the rewards.

    Ok where do get off saying I dont do it well? You dont know how I am as a Dj,
    Okay, I have obviously hurt your feelings. Again, I don't dislike DJs. I don't dehumanize DJs. My DJs like me. When I said that, I didn't mean you and your skills - I meant the service itself is not a particularly effective one. Like if someone tells a magazine graphic artist that television is a medium that will reach more people, that is not a personal attack. I just don't think what the DJ does really helps the dancers. You have outlined how you can hurt them - so essentially they are paying you to not fuck with them? Are you Italian, by any chance?

    that means all the little princess like you that think we dont mean much.
    To keep me happy all you need to do is play the fucking song. Keeping me happy is the easiest thing you'll do all night. Like I said - my DJs like me. Of course, my DJs get paid a decent wage, and don't rely on stripper charity. So it's very easy for them to have the egalitarian attitude. I will say again, that I think it is terrible - terrible - that there are places in which DJs rely solely on tips, or are paid the minimum tipped employee rate.

    That is complete bull, I am not saying that we deserve ALL your money or more than a fair share.
    Well, geez. This is the crux of the argument. I mean you keep saying that, but obviously we disagree about what is "fair."

    I should be the only one to make money, goddess attitude
    I don't see any of that attitude. We simply don't want to be the means by which everyone else makes money. I don't turn around to the customers that turn me down and say "so you don't want anyone to have money but you?" Seriously - listen to what you are saying. It sounds like panhandling. Like "You have it, you won't miss it, I need it, give it, give it." Or the squeegee kids. I have nothing against panhandlers or squeegee kids. I give them change when I have it. But I wouldn't much like being told that I owe them 10% of my income.
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    Well, I am going to work at a club tomorrow that has an announcer. I pay the juke box and the ATM fees, which amounts to about $6 per night. I give the club a total of $80 and I keep the rest. We used to have a DJ, but he kept bugging the girls for more tips (we had a choice whether or not we tipped him since he was paid), and kept messing up the sets and scratching the CDs, which we all brought in on our own. He also sold drugs right form his little booth, classy right?
    Of course this is just one DJ, not all are awful, of course they aren't or you all woudl have been replaced by a juke box. It's just that every situation varies, you may think that you are doing us a favor by playing the songs we like or fixing the lights, BUT, what if we truly don't care?
    What if from our point of view WE are doing you the favor by paying you. What if we think your service is needed? There are so many ifs and different situations, which why the club makes sure the dancers pay you.
    I just quit a club where we'll be fined if we don't tip the DJ 10%.. Does that sound fair? Or another club where it's a manadtory $40 a night. I knew girls that had to take it out of the ATM because they worked a crappy day shift.
    Every dancer and every DJ has a different opinion. I like the Djs that hug me after I tip them WITHOUT counting the money. If I had a good night they get a better tip JUST because of that. It's the ones that are that awseome that get my love not the ones that think I care about who I am after or my light sets (I don't care!) I dont even care about the songs, as long as they aren't angry or about maggots.
    So to the DJs out there that are glad we do well because they do well and don't bug us about a tip if we don't think it's justified, I think you are great and I hope that they next tiem I work in a club that has a DJ, he/she will be just like you!
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    Bullying your co-workers for tips is simply out of line and thats what I, as in me, myself and no one else is addressing.. YES I agree, everyone should get paid. Then on the other hand how long do you think that patron that I am trying to promote myself to.. Note I said I AM, not YOU the DJ, as I have to talk to him, make sure he's happy etc, Would hang around if I said to him as he was asking about the dance price.. " Oh by the way, I expect X amount of dollars for a tip after I dance for you." That guy would run as if his tail was on fire.. and thats exactly what your commentary that I quoted said to me.

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    Yes I guess that makes sense put that way, I am not saying you dont have valid points just that i think it should be to the best intrest of everyone to make money. Also I dont bully anyone into tipping more. I just make sure my best tippers are in the best position to make money. I would never condesend (sp?) or be down right hostile to a dancer. My whole point was just saying that I take care of the girls that take care of me. Not trying to offend here just make my case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Captain Rob
    You know i will probably get alot of crap for saying this, but we may not think the same about your job. Dancers in a good club (not one where you have to be touched and mauled by the cust.) dont have to work very hard either. Yes, they are naked, yes they have to sit with a guy and make him like her..etc but overall does it really warrant tons of cash too? Does the fact you are naked really mean that you should make 10-20 times more in a week what most people have to work 40+ hours killing themselves doing? (Not meaning Dj just in general) Granted I respect alot of dancers and really give them credit for having guts to do what they do...i sure as hell wouldnt want to do it. But not challenging? A bullshit service? I suggest you try running a 25 girl rotation on a busy night, keeping everyone happy...that means all the little princess like you that think we dont mean much. Keep the club managment/owners happy...keep the show running mistake free...oh and of course be able to talk and promote. Its this type of mentality that I am talking about.
    *applauds* I agree with this. As a dancer now, I dont demand that I get tipped and tipped well just because I'm dancing and I'm topless and that's why customers GO there. I hope that I am entertaining enough to warrant a tip. I know when I walk into a strip club to work that I cannot garauntee anything. Especially in a club that doesnt pay the dancers per hour or a flat rate. But what I do on stage is less of a challenging to me than when I was DJing. Granted, the hassle of rude customers is a pain, but I had to deal with the hassle of rude dancers when I DJd. And managers who want specific things said at specific times. If you go to work at a club and the management requires you to tip the DJ a specific percent, either do it or go elsewhere. Its house rules. Time to get over how much of what you make you think is all on you. I really applaud you if 100% of what you make in tips is ALL from you working and nothing from the stage show looking good on the lights/music end. 100% of the applause you get is NOT from the DJ announcing to applaud. Thats grand. Thats very cool. I just cant see it actually happening. Really. Especially after I see and hear what some customers, at various establishments, have to say about the quality of work a DJ does, or the lack of a DJ at all. Every time I see a customer roll their eyes at a DJ that talks TOO much and leaves, or every time I see a bachelor party cheer at what the DJ says when they poke fun at the bachelor, every time I see a DJ say "ok guys, the next customer to tip the girl on stage a fiver gets a shot on me" and the girl GETS a $5... that makes me really, really doubt that any one girl can do everything she does on her own. Hell, I know features who love certain DJs at certain clubs that they travel too because the DJs do such a good job helping hype up the crowd. And maybe I'm wrong but... features tend to need LESS help promoting themselves than a house dancer... but that's my own opinion. *shrugs*

    I wanna go to a club where the dancers get up on stage, announce themselves, turn on the CD and boogie, and still keep the crowds that a well DJ'd club can. Really. The first bar I worked at had a jukebox. Regulars got sick of the same ol' choices, customers whined at being asked for jukebox money, or if a specific song wasnt there, etc... I was starting to get tired of every other customer asking me who the girl on stage was too. No one came to our club for parties or events. We were just not lively enough. We DID lose out. But seriously. I wanna go to a club where the girl picks up the mic and says "Hi! I'm (name) and this is my first of two songs. Come on up and tip me, ok?"

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    [QUOTE=Jenny]Okay. You're actually right. I do have some bitterness. It really bothers me - on more than a personal level - that everyone thinks it's just so OKAY to demand that we support the whole damn club.

    You Jenny I agree with you there, I dont agree with the tipouts to everyone in the club..never have. There are many clubs that do overcharge the girls, but why is it it is ok for a dancer to make 1000, a bartender or a shot girl, but hell with the dj?

    If "never had a good DJ" means that I've never had one that made me money - no. I never have.

    I hope someday that changes for you, there are differences they are kinda hard to write. Who knows maybe someday I'll cross your path then you can throw things at me
    I know. I think that is what leads to our goosey mentality.

    Someday you will have to explain what goosey means...lol

    Okay, I have obviously hurt your feelings. Again, I don't dislike DJs. Are you Italian, by any chance?

    No didnt hurt my feelings, I am actully very used to the way of thinking that is here. (Been doing this 13 years all over US) Not the first time nor will it be the last i am sure. I just wish you could actully see the skill that is actully needed to do this job...mind you I am talking at a professional level here not you rinky dink club with a 40 yr old guy groaning and pushing play .


    Well, geez. This is the crux of the argument. I mean you keep saying that, but obviously we disagree about what is "fair."

    Yeah, we do.. but thats what makes it intresting. My favorite clubs are the ones that are 10% to a 40 Cap..(Means no tipping more than 40) What do you think?

    I don't see any of that attitude. We simply don't want to be the means by which everyone else makes money. I don't turn around to the customers that turn me down and say "so you don't want anyone to have money but you?" Seriously - listen to what you are saying. It sounds like panhandling. Like "You have it, you won't miss it, I need it, give it, give it." Or the squeegee kids. I have nothing against panhandlers or squeegee kids. I give them change when I have it. But I wouldn't much like being told that I owe them 10% of my income.

    You know that is a very valid point. But we dont see it as panhandling, we are just asking for a fair fee for the service we provide. Not trying to piss u off Jenny. In fact I enjoy a good debate. In fact I love my dancers, and I love what i do, but sometimes you get frustrated when a girl makes 1000 and gives you 5. Dont ya think that might piss you off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaigeDWinter
    I wanna go to a club where the dancers get up on stage, announce themselves, turn on the CD and boogie, and still keep the crowds that a well DJ'd club can. Really. The first bar I worked at had a jukebox. Regulars got sick of the same ol' choices, customers whined at being asked for jukebox money, or if a specific song wasnt there, etc... I was starting to get tired of every other customer asking me who the girl on stage was too. No one came to our club for parties or events. We were just not lively enough. We DID lose out. But seriously. I wanna go to a club where the girl picks up the mic and says "Hi! I'm (name) and this is my first of two songs. Come on up and tip me, ok?"

    I'd tip her.
    I actually worked at a club had only had a juke box and NO announcer, we didn't even announce ourselves. We got up and danced and then walked around the room to either thank people for tipping us or collect tips from guys too lazy to get up, hey it happens. We didn't have lap dances so the $$$ was made on stage, or when you sat wiht guys they would tip you for your time. I made pretty decent concidering no lap dances and averaged about 200 to 300 a night just from this whole set up. We actually asked guys to pay for the juke box and it was one of those strip clubs in a bar.
    A few on here might know it. it's Archibald's in Washington Dc. Small club, we actually had set times when we had to get on stage and the girl before us stayed on until her replacement came. I hope no one will bash the club because it wasn't a bad place at all.
    I'm not saying every club should be like this, but it had a pretty homey feel to it and was nudewith full bar, works for me. You should check it out, if only for the experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Captain Rob
    You Jenny I agree with you there, I dont agree with the tipouts to everyone in the club..never have. There are many clubs that do overcharge the girls, but why is it it is ok for a dancer to make 1000, a bartender or a shot girl, but hell with the dj?
    Just wondering...who said to "hell with the DJ?" No one is against tipping the DJ...however, I AM against tipping the DJ 10% on TOP of my house fees (80+ per night), my automatic 25% to the floor guys, 20% to the CL host (If I did any VIP's) and mandatory $10 to the housemom. By the time I get done tipping every single Tom, Jack, and Harry, they are leaving with more money than I am...and I'M the one walking around in 7" stilletos, dancing on stage and dancing private dances.

    I've always taken care of my DJ...and that means tipping him $20-30 per night of dancing. I tipped that whether I made $1000 or $100. What pissed me off was when my DJ decided that I didn't tip enough and started acting like a pissy ass jackoff when I refused to hand over more money. On nights where there were 100 dancers working, who the fuck is he to demand more money, when I know for a fact that he left with over $2000? I left with $850 (after all tip-outs, etc). Where's the fairness in that? Sure, the DJ buys music, but really...come on...most of the DJ's that I know pirate copies from the internet and from other DJ buddies. The clubs pay for the licensing rights to play commercial tunes in their club. So, the "We have to buy music" is a bunch of bull.

    What the DJ's do not keep in mind, is that the dancers pay out more money than anyone else. For the DJ's who think it's ok to "bust" on a dancer...putting her in a position to make less money in favor of girls who make more...that's just wrong. You are bitching that you are not making enough money...and yet...you are intentionally preventing another person from making money. DJ's who do this should be fired. Period.

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    THANK YOU! Well said..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild
    I actually worked at a club had only had a juke box and NO announcer, we didn't even announce ourselves. We got up and danced and then walked around the room to either thank people for tipping us or collect tips from guys too lazy to get up, hey it happens. We didn't have lap dances so the $$$ was made on stage, or when you sat wiht guys they would tip you for your time. I made pretty decent concidering no lap dances and averaged about 200 to 300 a night just from this whole set up. We actually asked guys to pay for the juke box and it was one of those strip clubs in a bar.

    I'm not saying every club should be like this, but it had a pretty homey feel to it and was nudewith full bar, works for me. You should check it out, if only for the experience.
    I've worked as a dancer in clubs like that. It drove me nuts. Had a lot of folks, mostly the customers, who griped about no DJ. Heh.
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