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    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Captain Rob
    I dont have alot of time to post, running late but I want to just make a point here.
    What exactly was your point?

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    Point was she tipped better, after she realized her money had drastically dropped off this week, and that better tipping = better service.

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    it's pretty much common sense that better tipping is better service, but I fail to see the correlation between your service and her income.

    It appears you are just hustling for a better tip, which you got. Congratulations. You're closer to understanding what it is strippers do to earn their money.

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    Lol.... Well yeah, like i have said before it is all the same game, we all hustle to make our money. I just think your job is a tad harder, we we all work hard for our share of the pie

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    People that don't understand what we do often think it's dancing, but dancing is the furthest thing from what I do....which is why I don't believe a DJ is an integral part of how I earn my income.

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    Oh, I used to work in a club in Houston where we were not allowed to tip DJ or manager and they were not allowed to accept tips. They were paid and good salary. I would sometimes try to slip them a $20 or so to show I care. That was a great place to work, never any drama over tipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Oh, I used to work in a club in Houston where we were not allowed to tip DJ or manager and they were not allowed to accept tips. They were paid and good salary. I would sometimes try to slip them a $20 or so to show I care. That was a great place to work, never any drama over tipping
    That wasnt the Colorado by any chance was it???
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    DJ Captain Rob...please learn how to use the quote feature correctly. It makes it much easier to determine what you are saying and what you are quoting. I've fixed a couple for you already.

    Thanks... --VG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Captain Rob
    That wasnt the Colorado by any chance was it???
    YES! YES! YES!!!!

    Sweeeeeeet, did we work together? It used to be such a great club. Now I heard that they have curtains over the booths with porn DVD playing inside...for shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    DJ Captain Rob...please learn how to use the quote feature correctly. It makes it much easier to determine what you are saying and what you are quoting. I've fixed a couple for you already.

    Thanks... --VG
    Sorry Venus... been getting used to all the little ins and outs here

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    No matter who it is, if someone sends me to a customer, I tip them 10% of whatever I made from that customer. If they do it on a regular basis I'm inclined to be a tad more generous when tippin time comes. There is one bouncer at my club who regularly sends me to custies and I often tip him as much as 20%, depending on my take at the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    MHO, DJ's should be tipped...but a TIP is a few bucks as a thank you for your cooperation. It is not a bribe to keep from being screwed with...and since it's rarely the DJ who points me to the big spenders...him holding his hand out like he's God's gift to my money flow is a joke.
    Right fucken ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipity7
    What about the waitresses?
    There are only a few good hustlers @ my club (including myself) and, for the most part, we each have one or two waitresses that we work closely with. If she hooks me up with a high roller and we go to VIP (the waitress that sets up a tab downstairs wil automatically continue the tab in VIP- champagne,more funny $$, etc), I make sure that HE tips her well on top of the percentage I give her @ the end of the night. For example, I talk her up to the custy about how she is my fav, blah blah blah. And when he is signing his tab, I say something like "Now make sure you tip her well. Because if you don't tip her well than I am going to have to..." This might only work with some custys, and I really have to read them to see what will work (if you say it wrong they might get pissed, but this has never happened to me). Sometimes I can even get away with looking over his shoulder as he adds the tip in!

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    Dancing clubs are businesses, and if the club owners want to bill them as such, they need to actually treat the employees like, well . . . employees. This means paying a decent wage and benefits to all employees--dancers, dj's, bartenders, and the like. This is not some backalley semi-legit business, and having the dancers "tip" the dj sounds more like bribery than sound business practices. In a perfect world, we'd all be paid employees, and the expenses would be covered by the club instead of shifting the operating expenses onto the girls. I've had some ok dj's and some downright horrible ones. I gladly tipped the decent ones, and I'm not rightly sure why. I mean, if I was working in an office enviornment, it wouldn't seem "normal" and decent to tip the other employees that make my work easier--say tipping my secretary, the receptionist, etc. Stripping *is* a legitimate business, but until it's treated as such, all of us working in this industry aren't gonna get any respect. I'm always criticised for saying there's a bigger problem, but the problem is bigger than how much is fair to tip a dj. It comes down to dancers not wanting to feel like the major income for most of the employees is coming straight off their tip money. I've also seen some seriously underpaid (and not paid) dj's, helping the girls in every way that they could but still scraping to get by. This is not the dj's fault or the penny-pinching dancer's fault. This is the club's fault for not paying it's employees!

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    I generally tip above the standard tipping for the DJ, but I don't go overboard. Yeah they help us out by playing our music, etc, but then again they are not the ones who put in a good word for me to customers or point out the good customers. My tips are decent and sufficient.

    There was this one girl who was kinda dumb(LOL I wrote about her on the "dumb dancer" threads and a few others). At the club we worked at, she would always tip this one DJ above and beyond what she had to, more money than most of the other girls would tip him. And she wasn't one of the top earners either, if anything she made less than a lot of other girls. Ha so this DJ probably loved her, right?...No, one time I overheard him making jokes about this girl to another dancer, and spilling to the other dancer bad stuff about her. Stuff such as how silly it was that my friend tried to name herself "J-Lo"(lol managers wouldn't let her do that!), did coke 7 years ago, etc. And for this girl, the extra $10 or so was a bigger cut of her pay than it woulda been for other girls. The DJ wasn't a perfect angel, but I think he made the jokes about this girl moreso because they were easy jokes to make. After that, I would kinda laugh to myself when I saw this girl dipping into her rent money to tip this DJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireincarnation
    Dancing clubs are businesses, and if the club owners want to bill them as such, they need to actually treat the employees like, well . . . employees. This means paying a decent wage and benefits to all employees--dancers, dj's, bartenders, and the like. This is not some backalley semi-legit business, and having the dancers "tip" the dj sounds more like bribery than sound business practices. In a perfect world, we'd all be paid employees, and the expenses would be covered by the club instead of shifting the operating expenses onto the girls. I've had some ok dj's and some downright horrible ones. I gladly tipped the decent ones, and I'm not rightly sure why. I mean, if I was working in an office enviornment, it wouldn't seem "normal" and decent to tip the other employees that make my work easier--say tipping my secretary, the receptionist, etc. Stripping *is* a legitimate business, but until it's treated as such, all of us working in this industry aren't gonna get any respect. I'm always criticised for saying there's a bigger problem, but the problem is bigger than how much is fair to tip a dj. It comes down to dancers not wanting to feel like the major income for most of the employees is coming straight off their tip money. I've also seen some seriously underpaid (and not paid) dj's, helping the girls in every way that they could but still scraping to get by. This is not the dj's fault or the penny-pinching dancer's fault. This is the club's fault for not paying it's employees!
    You said it! There were a few times at a bad/dead club I used to work at, where I made like no money at all because it was dead and no one came in. I had to dip into my savings to pay the mandatory tip-out to the DJ, and he didn't do much at all. If there weren't any customers in the club, then we didn't have to dance on stage, then the DJ didn't have to play any tunes. Plus, during this "down time" that us dancers/employees were bullshittin around and waiting for customers, the DJ was bitchy and not very friendly to me. So I had to dip into my money, essentially making negative money to pay him. I surely didn't give him a penny over the mandatory minimum. Overall though, he was a good DJ, played good music, and I generally tipped him nicely(even though he kinda bullied me) because of this. But if I wasn't making money, I wasn't gonna go into debt to cover the employees' payrolls. And oh yeah, it was definitely the club's fault that we were dead. Ever since the new owner bought the club, business dropped off and the club started sucking really bad. As a result, our money went down, and then most of the pretty girls(myself included) left for greener pastures.

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    You notice all these club employees aren't getting in line to take a cut when we make no money but they are so sure they're the key to our success when we DO.

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    haha i just reread this whole thread.

    just wanted to point out... one of the TOP clubs in the whole county( mons venus) has a juke box and has had it for over 20 years. i once asked the owner why no dj? his resonse. if it aint broke why fix it. his girls "tipout" the juke box $1 a song they play.



    i dont go on stage. i tip a flat 20 no matter what i make.

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